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| Brazil's ex-president Lula sentenced to nearly 10 years in prison for corruption; che? | |
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| jake58 | Jul 12 2017, 09:50 PM Post #1 |
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/12/brazil-president-lula-convicted-corruption Luis Inacio Lula da Silva, once the most popular president in Brazil’s recent history, has been sentenced to nine years and six months in prison after being found guilty on corruption and money-laundering charges |
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| Che On The Rocks | Jul 13 2017, 05:41 AM Post #2 |
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It's an example of lawfare. It's clear reading this AP article:
Read here, too. |
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| Che On The Rocks | Jul 13 2017, 05:57 AM Post #3 |
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Lula will appeal. If that fails, he will be banned of politics and... In Brazil, Lula conviction opens field for 2018 presidential race
But those candidates are all puppets of the Brazilian oligarchy. They will continue Temer's neoliberal program. Thus, the Brazilian elite will get richer, and the rest of the population, poorer. More or less like in Argentina. Or in the USA.
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| jake58 | Jul 13 2017, 05:34 PM Post #4 |
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From your AP article... Silva also faces charges in four other cases. The former union leader has said all the charges are completely unfounded, and his defiant testimony in the case decided Wednesday was billed as a showdown between himself and Moro. Both men are viewed as national heroes by some parts of Brazilian society. Oh dear... South American politics... so filthy |
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| Che On The Rocks | Jul 14 2017, 03:56 AM Post #5 |
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Please, don't despair! In some months, there will be 40 cases against Lula. Whatever it takes! Jesus, Mr. Benghazi! Do you mean, so filthy like American politics? What will your Russian Mole-in-Chief say? Ha ha ha ha! |
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| Che On The Rocks | Jul 14 2017, 04:04 AM Post #6 |
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Ex-Brazil president Lula launches fiery defense after corruption conviction
![]() Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva told the crowd at Workers’ party headquarters: ‘From this moment I want to ask the Workers’ party for the right to be a candidate for president.’ Photograph: Nacho Doce/Reuters Convicted Former Brazilian President Lula ‘A Victim of Lawfare’
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| jake58 | Jul 14 2017, 09:14 AM Post #7 |
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poor che, all his heroes are scumbags |
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| Robertr2000 | Jul 14 2017, 01:34 PM Post #8 |
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Clinton Foundation in Brazil BRAZIL Up For Auction… https://helenaglass.net/tag/clinton-foundation-in-brazil/ |
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| Attaburnsinhell | Jul 14 2017, 06:32 PM Post #9 |
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I wasnt aware he was a Trump supporter |
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| Robert Stout | Jul 15 2017, 12:50 AM Post #10 |
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Che only supports Latin American politicians....All of whom define the word , corruption......... :oyvey |
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| Che On The Rocks | Jul 17 2017, 04:57 AM Post #11 |
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If Lula is a scumbag for you, that means he is a great guy. ------------------------- Give me a break! ------------------------- Dear American fellows: the days of "American exceptionalism", including "American moral superiority", are over. Please, adapt.
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| Che On The Rocks | Jul 17 2017, 05:04 AM Post #12 |
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A Further Blow to Democracy in Brazil? Glenn Greenwald on Conviction of Lula Ahead of 2018 ElectionRead here, too. Lula: 'Everyone Knows Whose Side I'm on, Who I'll Govern For'
![]() Lula speaks beside a placard that reads, "Election without Lula is Fraud!" | Photo: Reuters Edited by Che On The Rocks, Jul 17 2017, 05:07 AM.
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| Che On The Rocks | Jul 21 2017, 06:14 AM Post #13 |
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A Political Purge
![]() Paulo Pinto / Agência PT Read here, too. Brazil's former President Lula has assets frozen
![]() Lula was once Brazil's most popular president Brazil's Lula says he is being persecuted in court as supporters protest Read here, too. |
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| jake58 | Jul 21 2017, 08:18 AM Post #14 |
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OJ said he didn't do it... |
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| jake58 | Jul 21 2017, 10:54 AM Post #15 |
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Also, from the Greenwald piece, which incidentally argues what I've said all along... that both sides are incredibly dirty in Brazil... We haven’t seen massive street protests demanding the removal of Michel Temer, and we haven’t yet seen people pouring out onto the streets in anger over Lula’s conviction—albeit it’s been less than 24 hours since it happened. We might see that. And the reason is, is that Brazilians are just exhausted. This is not a country where there are isolated corruption cases against specific political figures. This is a country which, for decades, has had a political class that is systematically corrupt. It runs on corruption. And the only thing that has changed is that you now have an independent judiciary, a judiciary that’s a little bit more or a lot more aggressive about holding people in political office accountable. There’s more transparency. And so it’s being exposed. And what Brazilians have seen is that the entire political class in Brasília, virtually, is itself corrupt, that their political system is one based in corruption. And so, they really aren’t convinced that they should be out on the street demanding Temer’s removal, as much as the country hates Temer across the board, because they’re not convinced that whoever replaces him is going to be any better, And so, how much of a threat Lula really poses to the oligarchical class? He’s become very close allies with a lot of the leading plutocrats, a lot of the leading oil and construction executives. He’s made a lot of money by doing business with a lot of these extremely wealthy and powerful financial interests in Brazil. He’s not the Lula from 1986, where he was this firebrand, you know, hardcore socialist union leader. He’s been integrated into the power structure. And so, I do think that they want to make sure PT doesn’t come back to power, but I don’t think it’s accurate to depict it as them viewing Lula as some kind of towering enemy of the elite. I think that the elite has found a way to work with Lula and accommodate their interests with Lula. And so I don’t know how petrified they are of his return. |
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| Che On The Rocks | Jul 24 2017, 06:53 AM Post #16 |
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Who? It remembers so much about both sides in America... Greenwald said a lot of more. For example: "So, everything is about the underlying attempt to take away the benefits from the nation’s poor that PT has legislated for them, to make people work longer hours, to make them have fewer benefits, to transfer wealth from the laborers in this country and the poor in this country back to the oligarchs. That’s why Dilma was removed. That’s why Michel Temer is in power. That’s why they want to make Lula ineligible. And so, that is absolutely what lurks at the center of all of this intrigue." Meanwhile, the hard facts remain: leftie Lula senteced. Rightie Temer free as a bird. |
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| Che On The Rocks | Jul 24 2017, 06:59 AM Post #17 |
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Brazil’s former president sees politics in Silva conviction
![]() Brazil’s former President Dilma Rousseff gives an interview in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, Friday, July 14, 2017. Rousseff says the corruption conviction of her mentor and predecessor Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva is aimed at keeping him out of next year’s presidential election. Rousseff was impeached last year for manipulating the fiscal budget. (Silvia Izquierdo/Associated Press) |
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| jake58 | Jul 24 2017, 08:58 AM Post #18 |
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Isn't she the one who got impeached? Who cares what she thinks? Other than you of course... |
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| jake58 | Jul 24 2017, 09:04 AM Post #19 |
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Yes, well, we're not talking about the US are we? Brazil...corruption...pervasive...all parties... try to focus, che btw, despite being found guilty and sentenced, Lula is also... 'free as a bird' pending appeal |
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| Che On The Rocks | Jul 26 2017, 04:11 AM Post #20 |
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In a palace/soft coup, yes. You, given the fact that you react to her. Other than you and me, the 54M of Brazilians who voted for her. America sucks. So we will drag her a while longer.Jesus, Jakie Boy! It's like both American parties, authorizing some "war". Like a laser beam! Imagine your "happiness" if that appeal finds Lula not guilty.
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