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TrumpCare Collapses, Man, That's Winning!
Topic Started: Jul 18 2017, 03:39 PM (955 Views)
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Jul 18 2017, 09:31 PM


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Jul 19 2017, 08:58 PM
The R's have had seven years of grandstanding, stomping their feet, holding their breath and other sorts of pre juvenile behavior regarding how healthcare is administered in the USA.
Why? Because they had Obama standing there to ignore their theatrics. It's easy to pick a fight when you know someone is gonna save your azz before you take a punch.

Do the Republicans wish Obama was still there to allow them to continue their fake concern for the middle class and the poor? You betcha they do. You won't hear it but now that they have lost their cover it seems that the fifity four (?) times they passed a repeal of the ACA was just an exercise in bulls***.

Frauds...every stinking one of them.
And the ducks that quack behind them are no better.
Well said. :hooray:

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Coast2coast
Jul 19 2017, 09:55 PM
CautionaryTales
Jul 19 2017, 08:58 PM
The R's have had seven years of grandstanding, stomping their feet, holding their breath and other sorts of pre juvenile behavior regarding how healthcare is administered in the USA.
Why? Because they had Obama standing there to ignore their theatrics. It's easy to pick a fight when you know someone is gonna save your azz before you take a punch.

Do the Republicans wish Obama was still there to allow them to continue their fake concern for the middle class and the poor? You betcha they do. You won't hear it but now that they have lost their cover it seems that the fifity four (?) times they passed a repeal of the ACA was just an exercise in bulls***.

Frauds...every stinking one of them.
And the ducks that quack behind them are no better.
Well said. :hooray:

Their politicians...of course they are frauds...well except for the Democrats ... :dunno:
Only liberals can choose not to go down the road to widespread, systematic violence.
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Jul 19 2017, 09:55 PM
CautionaryTales
Jul 19 2017, 08:58 PM
The R's have had seven years of grandstanding, stomping their feet, holding their breath and other sorts of pre juvenile behavior regarding how healthcare is administered in the USA.
Why? Because they had Obama standing there to ignore their theatrics. It's easy to pick a fight when you know someone is gonna save your azz before you take a punch.

Do the Republicans wish Obama was still there to allow them to continue their fake concern for the middle class and the poor? You betcha they do. You won't hear it but now that they have lost their cover it seems that the fifity four (?) times they passed a repeal of the ACA was just an exercise in bulls***.

Frauds...every stinking one of them.
And the ducks that quack behind them are no better.
Well said. :hooray:

Their politicians...of course they are frauds...well except for the Democrats ... :dunno:
I don't see that said by Cautionary or me. :confused:


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Jul 19 2017, 08:58 PM
The R's have had seven years of grandstanding, stomping their feet, holding their breath and other sorts of pre juvenile behavior regarding how healthcare is administered in the USA.
Why? Because they had Obama standing there to ignore their theatrics. It's easy to pick a fight when you know someone is gonna save your azz before you take a punch.

Do the Republicans wish Obama was still there to allow them to continue their fake concern for the middle class and the poor? You betcha they do. You won't hear it but now that they have lost their cover it seems that the fifity four (?) times they passed a repeal of the ACA was just an exercise in bulls***.

Frauds...every stinking one of them.
And the ducks that quack behind them are no better.
Health insurance for every American is not a government responsibility....Responsible Americans don't expect other Americans to pay their living expenses.....Screw the pet hamsters................ :booboo:
Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid
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Jul 19 2017, 09:14 PM
Everybody knows the Dems are full of it which is why they are currently a regional party.

This is a win as it shows how full of shiat the GOPe are. It's now on full display. Now we can go about purging those who are DC first versus we the people first.

As Bill Parcels once said, You are what you're record says you are and for the Trump Administration and it's G.O.P. lap dogs, it's pretty pathetic:

GOP signals infrastructure bill must wait; http://thehill.com/policy/transportation/342835-gop-signals-infrastructure-bill-must-wait

"The timing and fate of President Trump’s infrastructure plan may depend on whether the GOP enacts major tax reform — a task that could prove challenging amid the struggle to pass a healthcare bill.

Republicans are signaling that a massive rebuilding package, which has long been one of Trump’s top priorities, will most likely have to wait on the sidelines until lawmakers overhaul the tax code.

But with that process likely to be just as time-consuming and daunting as healthcare, infrastructure could be pushed to the back burner."

GOP forms circular firing squad; http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/342630-the-memo-gop-forms-circular-firing-squad

"Republicans and conservatives are forming a circular firing squad after the ignominious collapse of the party’s healthcare effort — and everyone is opening up with both barrels.

The White House is blaming Democrats in public and Congressional Republicans in private.

From Capitol Hill, fingers are being pointed toward the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue, at President Trump’s purportedly inconsistent leadership.

The post-mortems offer a multitude of more specific reasons why the attempt to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act (ACA), also known as ObamaCare, expired."

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Jul 19 2017, 09:55 PM
CautionaryTales
Jul 19 2017, 08:58 PM
The R's have had seven years of grandstanding, stomping their feet, holding their breath and other sorts of pre juvenile behavior regarding how healthcare is administered in the USA.
Why? Because they had Obama standing there to ignore their theatrics. It's easy to pick a fight when you know someone is gonna save your azz before you take a punch.

Do the Republicans wish Obama was still there to allow them to continue their fake concern for the middle class and the poor? You betcha they do. You won't hear it but now that they have lost their cover it seems that the fifity four (?) times they passed a repeal of the ACA was just an exercise in bulls***.

Frauds...every stinking one of them.
And the ducks that quack behind them are no better.
Well said. :hooray:

Their politicians...of course they are frauds...well except for the Democrats ... :dunno:
The CBO finds that the new BCRA would increase the number of uninsured by 22 million, @fivefifths reports: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/health-care-senate-cbo-

"The budget agency found the Senate’s new version of its Obamacare-replacement plan would leave the same number of people uninsured as the original."

President Trump tries for an Obamacare repeal revival; https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/trump-tries-for-a-health-care-revival/534255/?utm_source=nl-atlantic-daily-072017

"The president bought some more time for the Republican health-care effort, but he hasn’t changed any minds yet."

The GOP's approach to health care doesn't always align with its own voters' beliefs; https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/senate-health-care-budget/534270/?utm_source=nl-atlantic-daily-072017

"When it comes to health care and entitlements, the party’s policies don't always align with its coalition’s beliefs."
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Jul 19 2017, 10:00 PM
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Jul 19 2017, 09:55 PM
CautionaryTales
Jul 19 2017, 08:58 PM
The R's have had seven years of grandstanding, stomping their feet, holding their breath and other sorts of pre juvenile behavior regarding how healthcare is administered in the USA.
Why? Because they had Obama standing there to ignore their theatrics. It's easy to pick a fight when you know someone is gonna save your azz before you take a punch.

Do the Republicans wish Obama was still there to allow them to continue their fake concern for the middle class and the poor? You betcha they do. You won't hear it but now that they have lost their cover it seems that the fifity four (?) times they passed a repeal of the ACA was just an exercise in bulls***.

Frauds...every stinking one of them.
And the ducks that quack behind them are no better.
Well said. :hooray:

Their politicians...of course they are frauds...well except for the Democrats ... :dunno:
Welcome to Failure Friday:

“Gasps, applause as McCain votes no on 'skinny repeal'; https://twitter.com/i/moments/890809689163784192

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Comes just in time for Trumps weekend tweetstorm bender.


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CautionaryTales
Jul 28 2017, 06:11 AM
Comes just in time for Trumps weekend tweetstorm bender.
Trumpcare and Obamacare may be doomed....There is nothing free about good healthcare.......... :dunno:
Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid
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Jul 28 2017, 06:41 AM
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Jul 28 2017, 06:11 AM
Comes just in time for Trumps weekend tweetstorm bender.
Trumpcare and Obamacare may be doomed....There is nothing free about good healthcare.......... :dunno:
Right now the only thing that's doomed is Trumpcare, Obamacare will continue and will eventually be improved upon, when the Dems get back in control after next year's elections.
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Jul 28 2017, 06:41 AM
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Jul 28 2017, 06:11 AM
Comes just in time for Trumps weekend tweetstorm bender.
Trumpcare and Obamacare may be doomed....There is nothing free about good healthcare.......... :dunno:
Right now the only thing that's doomed is Trumpcare, Obamacare will continue and will eventually be improved upon, when the Dems get back in control after next year's elections.
Obamacare and Trumpcare are both crap health insurance....The main difference is that Trumpcare could survive 20 years.....Try knowing the topic before you spread your pearls of wisdom............. :tongue:
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Jul 28 2017, 04:19 PM
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Jul 28 2017, 06:41 AM
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Jul 28 2017, 06:11 AM
Comes just in time for Trumps weekend tweetstorm bender.
Trumpcare and Obamacare may be doomed....There is nothing free about good healthcare.......... :dunno:
Right now the only thing that's doomed is Trumpcare, Obamacare will continue and will eventually be improved upon, when the Dems get back in control after next year's elections.
Obamacare and Trumpcare are both crap health insurance....The main difference is that Trumpcare could survive 20 years.....Try knowing the topic before you spread your pearls of wisdom............. :tongue:
Try knowing the topic yourself. Quoting David brooks: "The Republican Party needs to get it's head around the idea that Americans Now consider health care a right and between the bumbling idiot that calls himself "president' and the G.O.P. that can't agree on anything, you're fooling yourself if you think these people can come up with a solution.

Obamacare repeal's failure illustrates how far the GOP has drifted from its constituents; https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/why-obamacare-repeal-failed/535119

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Comes just in time for Trumps weekend tweetstorm bender.
Poor would be ‘devastated’ if Trump cuts health payments, GOP senator warns - MarketWatch http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIw5sTRzTU
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Jul 29 2017, 07:35 AM
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Jul 28 2017, 04:19 PM
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Jul 28 2017, 06:41 AM
CautionaryTales
Jul 28 2017, 06:11 AM
Comes just in time for Trumps weekend tweetstorm bender.
Trumpcare and Obamacare may be doomed....There is nothing free about good healthcare.......... :dunno:
Right now the only thing that's doomed is Trumpcare, Obamacare will continue and will eventually be improved upon, when the Dems get back in control after next year's elections.
Obamacare and Trumpcare are both crap health insurance....The main difference is that Trumpcare could survive 20 years.....Try knowing the topic before you spread your pearls of wisdom............. :tongue:
Try knowing the topic yourself. Quoting David brooks: "The Republican Party needs to get it's head around the idea that Americans Now consider health care a right and between the bumbling idiot that calls himself "president' and the G.O.P. that can't agree on anything, you're fooling yourself if you think these people can come up with a solution.

Obamacare repeal's failure illustrates how far the GOP has drifted from its constituents; https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/why-obamacare-repeal-failed/535119

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David Brooks should have never been allowed into the USA.....He likes to write satire and supports politicians like John McCain and Hillary...His son served in the military of a foreign country....David had a midlife crisis, divorced his wife of 27 years, and married his young secretary........ :oyvey

The repeal of Obamacare has not failed....Obamacare is dying from a self inflicted gunshot wound................ :lol:
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Right now the only thing that's doomed is Trumpcare, Obamacare will continue and will eventually be improved upon, when the Dems get back in control after next year's elections.
Obamacare and Trumpcare are both crap health insurance....The main difference is that Trumpcare could survive 20 years.....Try knowing the topic before you spread your pearls of wisdom............. :tongue:
Try knowing the topic yourself. Quoting David brooks: "The Republican Party needs to get it's head around the idea that Americans Now consider health care a right and between the bumbling idiot that calls himself "president' and the G.O.P. that can't agree on anything, you're fooling yourself if you think these people can come up with a solution.

Obamacare repeal's failure illustrates how far the GOP has drifted from its constituents; https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/why-obamacare-repeal-failed/535119

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David Brooks should have never been allowed into the USA.....He likes to write satire and supports politicians like John McCain and Hillary...His son served in the military of a foreign country....David had a midlife crisis, divorced his wife of 27 years, and married his young secretary........ :oyvey

The repeal of Obamacare has not failed....Obamacare is dying from a self inflicted gunshot wound................ :lol:
Keep fooling yourself.

As David Brooks said last Friday "Republicans have to wrap their heads around the fact that the American people now consider health care a right."

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Jul 19 2017, 09:55 PM
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Jul 19 2017, 08:58 PM
The R's have had seven years of grandstanding, stomping their feet, holding their breath and other sorts of pre juvenile behavior regarding how healthcare is administered in the USA.
Why? Because they had Obama standing there to ignore their theatrics. It's easy to pick a fight when you know someone is gonna save your azz before you take a punch.

Do the Republicans wish Obama was still there to allow them to continue their fake concern for the middle class and the poor? You betcha they do. You won't hear it but now that they have lost their cover it seems that the fifity four (?) times they passed a repeal of the ACA was just an exercise in bulls***.

Frauds...every stinking one of them.
And the ducks that quack behind them are no better.
Well said. :hooray:

Their politicians...of course they are frauds...well except for the Democrats ... :dunno:
Maybe you'll listen to a fellow conservative:

Trump, ObamaCare and the Art of the Fail; http://www.peggynoonan.com/trump-obamacare-and-the-art-of-the-fail/

"What happens when we elect a president who prefers to freelance rather than to lead....It was a political drubbing of the first order. A new Republican president and a Republican Senate and House put everything they had into a bill to repeal and replace ObamaCare, and couldn’t do it. The leadership is rocked. The president looks confused and hapless, while publicly enacting determination and a scolding tone toward those who’d let him down. He rarely showed signs of fully understanding the details or even the essentials of the plan he backed. His public remarks were all over the place: He’ll let ObamaCare collapse of its own weight; he’ll replace it with something big and beautiful; just repeal it; no, let it collapse. He criticized Hill Republicans: They “never discuss how good their healthcare bill is.” But neither did he, not in a persuasive way...Republicans on the Hill need a popular president with the quasi-mystical clout presidential popularity brings. Mr. Trump does not have it.
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Jul 19 2017, 08:58 PM
The R's have had seven years of grandstanding, stomping their feet, holding their breath and other sorts of pre juvenile behavior regarding how healthcare is administered in the USA.
Why? Because they had Obama standing there to ignore their theatrics. It's easy to pick a fight when you know someone is gonna save your azz before you take a punch.

Do the Republicans wish Obama was still there to allow them to continue their fake concern for the middle class and the poor? You betcha they do. You won't hear it but now that they have lost their cover it seems that the fifity four (?) times they passed a repeal of the ACA was just an exercise in bulls***.

Frauds...every stinking one of them.
And the ducks that quack behind them are no better.
Well said. :hooray:

Their politicians...of course they are frauds...well except for the Democrats ... :dunno:
Maybe you'll listen to a fellow conservative:

Trump, ObamaCare and the Art of the Fail; http://www.peggynoonan.com/trump-obamacare-and-the-art-of-the-fail/

"What happens when we elect a president who prefers to freelance rather than to lead....It was a political drubbing of the first order. A new Republican president and a Republican Senate and House put everything they had into a bill to repeal and replace ObamaCare, and couldn’t do it. The leadership is rocked. The president looks confused and hapless, while publicly enacting determination and a scolding tone toward those who’d let him down. He rarely showed signs of fully understanding the details or even the essentials of the plan he backed. His public remarks were all over the place: He’ll let ObamaCare collapse of its own weight; he’ll replace it with something big and beautiful; just repeal it; no, let it collapse. He criticized Hill Republicans: They “never discuss how good their healthcare bill is.” But neither did he, not in a persuasive way...Republicans on the Hill need a popular president with the quasi-mystical clout presidential popularity brings. Mr. Trump does not have it.
Peggy Noonan is a has been................ :oyvey
Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid
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Jul 19 2017, 08:58 PM
The R's have had seven years of grandstanding, stomping their feet, holding their breath and other sorts of pre juvenile behavior regarding how healthcare is administered in the USA.
Why? Because they had Obama standing there to ignore their theatrics. It's easy to pick a fight when you know someone is gonna save your azz before you take a punch.

Do the Republicans wish Obama was still there to allow them to continue their fake concern for the middle class and the poor? You betcha they do. You won't hear it but now that they have lost their cover it seems that the fifity four (?) times they passed a repeal of the ACA was just an exercise in bulls***.

Frauds...every stinking one of them.
And the ducks that quack behind them are no better.
Well said. :hooray:

Their politicians...of course they are frauds...well except for the Democrats ... :dunno:
Maybe you'll listen to a fellow conservative:

Trump, ObamaCare and the Art of the Fail; http://www.peggynoonan.com/trump-obamacare-and-the-art-of-the-fail/

"What happens when we elect a president who prefers to freelance rather than to lead....It was a political drubbing of the first order. A new Republican president and a Republican Senate and House put everything they had into a bill to repeal and replace ObamaCare, and couldn’t do it. The leadership is rocked. The president looks confused and hapless, while publicly enacting determination and a scolding tone toward those who’d let him down. He rarely showed signs of fully understanding the details or even the essentials of the plan he backed. His public remarks were all over the place: He’ll let ObamaCare collapse of its own weight; he’ll replace it with something big and beautiful; just repeal it; no, let it collapse. He criticized Hill Republicans: They “never discuss how good their healthcare bill is.” But neither did he, not in a persuasive way...Republicans on the Hill need a popular president with the quasi-mystical clout presidential popularity brings. Mr. Trump does not have it.
Peggy Noonan is a has been................ :oyvey
She's what's called a Sensible Conservative, she's not chasing fantasies like some of the Kool Aid drinkers who post here.
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Jul 18 2017, 05:22 PM
It's a minor obstacle. Consider that his winning streak has been overwhelmingly driving leftists to the edge of insanity, this is a minor setback.
A minor obstacle my a$$:

Trump failed on health care because he couldn't say "no" to Republican Party forces; https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/the-real-reason-trumps-obamacare-repeal-push-failed/535500

"Trump’s failure in health care wasn’t tactical. It was that he refused to acknowledge or redress the fundamental issues...Obamacare repeal has failed again, almost certainly for the final time. Seven years of Republican promises to uproot the thing and mulch the stump have ended in rejection by a Senate with a Republican majority. It’s hard to recall when last a political party inflicted such a defeat upon itself. Obamacare repeal was not one policy idea among many for Republicans, akin to the cap-and-trade plans that fizzled in the Democratic Congress of 2009-2010. It was the core commitment of the party, the indispensable preliminary to everything else Republicans wanted to do, from entitlement reform to tax cuts...And then, with all the necessary votes in hand, facing no effective opposition in Congress, the thing just … collapsed, like a person tripping over his own feet while walking across an empty ballroom."

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