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| Protests Erupt in Argentina Over Food Deprivation | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 21 2017, 06:24 AM (2,090 Views) | |
| W A Mozart | Aug 23 2017, 10:13 AM Post #21 |
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Herr Professor Mozart walking slowly (he is, after all, over 260 + years old) to the podium: "You there...! Yes you. Take the gum out of your mouth, take-off the Che-wannabe beret from your head, put down that ugly placard and sit-down, ...listen. I have no idea whether or not it is right for the US government to put sanctions on your biodiesel industry, worth more than 1.2 billion bucks a year. I hope that Cargill is right in this matter, that there are no taxpayer-supported subsidies and that Argentina be allowed to continue to export their biodiesel for many years to come. However, YOU should be concerned if Argentina is indeed SUBSIDIZING their biodiesel industry. It means that someone in Argentina is PAYING for that subsidy. You are. The people of Argentina are paying. That "subsidy" has to come from somewhere, as there is no such thing as a free lunch. If Argentina cannot compete fair and square in this industry, they should step out of it and compete where they are more cost efficient. That's basic economics. The Americans should do the same! ..." End of speech. Mozart |
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| Robert Stout | Aug 23 2017, 09:43 PM Post #22 |
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I suspect that there is nothing from Argentina that the USA wants to buy....Nada.....................
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| Che On The Rocks | Aug 26 2017, 07:14 AM Post #23 |
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Herr Professor Mozart: it's American protectionism, plain and simple. The EU does the same. Mr. Robert Stout: Macri and their oligarchs! Best investment ever! ------------------- Argentina reserves right to legal action on U.S. biodiesel duties Those eventual legal actions will take years... While America and the EU raise protectionist barriers, Argentina lowers them. This is the result: 'End-of-the-world' factories struggle to adapt to Macri's Argentina ^^^Latin American Neoliberalism, plain and simple. Latin American Neoliberalism, of course, requires a high level of repression "for a proper working". Such repression hits the youngsters, especially: The UN summoned La Poderosa in order to deepen a denouncement
![]() Ivan and Ezequiel of La Poderosa. Credit: Tiempo Argentino |
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Free Milagro Sala! What happened to Santiago Maldonado? What happened to ARA San Juan? Mapuche Lives Matter! Stop the political persecution in Argentina! Stop the looting of Argentina! | |
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| W A Mozart | Aug 26 2017, 09:45 AM Post #24 |
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1) Argentina reserves right to legal action on U.S. biodiesel duties There is no way by reading any of these articles that a determination can be made as to who is right here. There is no concrete information here. But, but, my suspicion is that this decision was mad by a 'far' left-wing hold-over from the Obama administration. Actually, I agree with the Argentinian position here (so far), the US CANNOT simply cut-off the import of bio diesel for no apparent reason. 2) 'End-of-the-world' factories struggle to adapt to Macri's Argentina Didja actually read this excellent Reuter's piece? Let's start with some quotes:
The point? The people of Argentina, through their taxes, are paying for these people to make electronic parts at INCREDIBLE costs! It's a "make work" program. Nobody, nowhere could afford to purchase such products on the open market. ONLY in Argentina could these products be sold, ...because of government subsidies. It's illogical and silly. Someone is paying for this. The first rule of economics is that products will be manufactured/produced, and gravitate to, the place with the greatest cost efficiencies. Simple. China is very efficient at manufacturing electronic components, Argentina is not. That plant in Tierra-del-Fuego is a remnant of the economic disaster that was the policy of the Kirchner's. Reuters makes this same point here:
3)The UN summoned La Poderosa in order to deepen a denouncement Again, "The Dawn?" You want us to comment on something as silly as "The Dawn?" I go back to rule 254 (Perspectives handbook), paragraph 31, codicil 7.4....(which reads)... "No silly, 'far' left-wing journals shall be posted on these forums....(etc, etc.) The miscreants who violate this law shall be forced to inject 1.5 liters of botox into their buttocks and be shown on 'youtube' running stark naked through a cow pasture filled with steaming droppings." There, see it?, ...it's the law! Mozart |
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| W A Mozart | Aug 26 2017, 10:12 AM Post #25 |
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And one final comment here...
Yup, they do...! Scoundrels...! You betcha. Now, grab a nice bottle of Argentinian Malbec, add some cheese crackers, throw the dog out of your sofa, grab a seat in same sofa and then watch THIS: It explains Brexit and why Europe is a "protectionist hotbed" which should be condemned all over the world! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTMxfAkxfQ0&t=622s Mozart |
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| Che On The Rocks | Nov 13 2017, 06:07 AM Post #26 |
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Ah, no? U.S. sets antidumping duties on Argentine, Indonesian biodiesel
The Mouse Roars: Exclusive: Argentina's Macri says would contest U.S. biodiesel tariffs with WTO
The Answer: SMAAAAACKKKK!!!!!!!!!!! U.S. sets final anti-subsidy duties on Argentine, Indonesian biodiesel
Edited by Che On The Rocks, Nov 13 2017, 06:07 AM.
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Free Milagro Sala! What happened to Santiago Maldonado? What happened to ARA San Juan? Mapuche Lives Matter! Stop the political persecution in Argentina! Stop the looting of Argentina! | |
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| Che On The Rocks | Nov 18 2017, 06:12 AM Post #27 |
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Blah, blah, blah: a song to the (dead) Neoliberalism. I got news for you: Hillary Clinton was the Neoliberal candidate, the last US presidential election! And yet, you didn't vote for her, did you? Back to Tierra del Fuego, the Macri Regime forced a deal: the protection to the electronic industry remains during two years and the firings stop, for a freezing of the workers wages. Pure Oligarchy! No, i want you to understand: in Latin America, Neoliberalism requires, demands social repression. Argentina protesters stage rally against police brutality
![]() Protesters hold photos of Santiago Maldonado during a demonstration in Buenos Aires on August 11, 2017. (Photo by AFP) Edited by Che On The Rocks, Nov 18 2017, 06:13 AM.
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Free Milagro Sala! What happened to Santiago Maldonado? What happened to ARA San Juan? Mapuche Lives Matter! Stop the political persecution in Argentina! Stop the looting of Argentina! | |
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| Robert Stout | Nov 18 2017, 04:52 PM Post #28 |
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It is only natural to have a massive die off of pet hamsters when the taxpayer stops feeding them....It takes a few years for hamsters to relearn to live again in the wild as independent species...If Argentina continues on its current path, the few remaining socialists like Che will be put in zoos so they won't totally "disappear".........
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| Che On The Rocks | Nov 21 2017, 07:51 AM Post #29 |
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Mr. Robert Stout: no, socialist are not the pet hamsters at risk of extinction. ------------------ So, Mauricio Macri won the mid-term elections. Why? Because he did a good chunk of populism: Public works blitz helps Macri coalition in Argentina midterm vote A micro-credits line, targeted with surgical aim by Big Data helped him, too. But besides, the Macri Regime played very well to People's hopes. Well played, Mauricio. The only problem: all this is grounded on debt, debt and more debt. No. 1 Bond Salesman in Emerging Markets Wants a Tad More Respect
![]() ^^^Look at that chart! Argentina issued more debt than China!!!!!!!!!!! Furthermore, seventy five percent (75%) of that money already left Argentina (capital flight)! Is that dangerous? Yes, it is: These are now the 5 most fragile countries exposed to higher interest rates, according to S&P
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| Che On The Rocks | Nov 21 2017, 08:03 AM Post #30 |
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After the pre-elections carrot of populism, comes the post-elections stick of austerity: With elections out of the way, Argentina's Macri pursues new round of austerity
![]() ^^^Argentine pensioners: the "pet hamsters" at risk of extinction. Ironically, they are the electoral base of the Macri Regime... |
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| Robert Stout | Nov 21 2017, 11:04 PM Post #31 |
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Pensioners in Argentina are not stupid....They don't want to end up like pensioners in Venezuela.........
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| Che On The Rocks | Dec 1 2017, 07:39 AM Post #32 |
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Mr. Robert Stout: they will end up like pensioners in Haiti. ------------------ Macri’s Power After Last Election
![]() Basically, Macri want to do: 1) Tax reform: tax cut for the richs. Not fiscally neutral, it will rise the fiscal deficit. This will be covered by more foreign debt. 2) Labour reform: lower wages, less rights for the workers. Supposedly, it will atract more foreign investment, lifting the local industry. Meanwhile, imports will be opened, rising the trading deficit. This will be covered by more foreign debt. 3) Pensions reform: less money for the pensioners, and so, more money available for repaying the foreing debt. Senate Passes Bills to Reform Pensions System, Reduce Fiscal Spending
![]() Photo via Diario de Cuyo If approved in the Lower House, this reform will mean 100-150 billion pesos less for the pensioners, during 2018. The Old Timers will get angry. How distract them? Thus: Macri’s Baseless Xenophobia
![]() And if hate&fear to immigrants from Peru, Paraguay, and Bolivia are not enough, there are the Mapuches. Or Cristina.
Edited by Che On The Rocks, Dec 1 2017, 07:41 AM.
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| Che On The Rocks | Dec 1 2017, 08:10 AM Post #33 |
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Of course, Macri's Neoliberal Program (remember the edgame) will face Resistance: Argentines protest against austerity
![]() Amdan Alejandro/Telam via Ulan/LANA Read here, too. 300,000 protest proposed tax, pension reforms in Argentina
![]() An image grab from a video by Ruptly shows Argentinean protesters in front of the National Congress in Buenos Aires on November 30, 2017. Argentina: Thousands rally against Macri's proposed tax reforms in Buenos Aires
Extra pictures and video: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() This Resistance could be helpful for the unionized workers. But for the pensioners... ...the pensioners are well jodidos. No unions defending them. I suppose that the Macri Regime will try to sell private retiremet packadges to the richest of them. |
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| Robert Stout | Dec 1 2017, 11:12 PM Post #34 |
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Macri will build a wall, but his will be reinforced with minefields and sniper towers..............
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| Che On The Rocks | Dec 2 2017, 09:08 AM Post #35 |
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Mr. Robert Stout: yes, Robert McNamara wanted to do the same. -------------------- Argentina biodiesel exports decline after U.S. tariffs imposed
Argentina cuts electronics taxes after deal with Tierra del Fuego factories Fortunately, businessman Mauricio Macri already had sold his actions in Mirgor (a Tierra del Fuego cellphone factory): ![]() It's so "admirable", the synchronization between President Mauricio Macri and businessman Mauricio Macri!
Edited by Che On The Rocks, Dec 2 2017, 09:09 AM.
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| Che On The Rocks | Dec 2 2017, 09:32 AM Post #36 |
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Prices of Oil, Electricity, Transportation and Gas to Increase After the Midterms Another Blow to Argentinians' Economy, Bus Fares Rise Gas prices to rise 45% from December Electricity Bills to Increase Twice in the Next Three Months Argentina hikes gas, electricity rates as government cuts subsidies
WSJ Correspondent in Argentina Gets AR $10,000 Gas Bill
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| Robert Stout | Dec 2 2017, 05:36 PM Post #37 |
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Turner has a gas leak....Next his house is going to explode and burn down....Macri did it !!!.................... :oyvey
Edited by Robert Stout, Dec 2 2017, 05:36 PM.
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| Che On The Rocks | Dec 4 2017, 08:21 AM Post #38 |
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Macri did it, indeed! Starving the many: ‘Hunger Can’t Wait’: Argentines Protest Food Scarcity
![]() Activists took to the streets to demand more state help. | Photo: Front of Organizations in Struggle Read here, too. Argentina Neighborhoods Demand Social Emergency Law
![]() Organizers gathered pots and food to give away to everyone at the march. | Photo: Barrios de Pie Argentine Police Injure and Detain Protesting Pensioners
![]() Pensioners were met with repression during a protests in Buenos Aires. | Photo: Xinhua Argentine Groups Demand Food Emergency Law to Fight Poverty, Malnutrition
![]() Union workers march during a demonstration against Argentine President Mauricio Macri's administration in Buenos Aires, Aug. 22, 2017. | Photo: Reuters Read here, too. Argentina: 50% of Rural Children Must Work to Support Family
![]() A 2016 campaign by NGO Un Sueño Para Misiones showed how rural children are exploited to harvest crops of mate, the famous tea leaf. | Photo: EFE/Posibl. Argentine Mom Strangles Baby Out of Desperation For Lack of Food
![]() Argentine President Mauricio Macri speaks during an interview with Reuters in New York, NY, U.S. November 7, 2017. | Photo: Reuters Enriching the few: Argentine Billionaire Wants to List His Cows in New York
![]() Jorge Brito at his ranch in Salta province, northwest Argentina, on Sept, 4, 2017. Photographer: Pablo Gonzalez/Bloomberg |
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| Robert Stout | Dec 5 2017, 12:30 AM Post #39 |
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Argentinians are the fattest poor starving people I have ever seen.......... :oyvey |
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| Che On The Rocks | Dec 8 2017, 04:53 AM Post #40 |
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They are like poor starving Americans. It's because the only cheap/scrap food they get is carbohydrates. ------------------ Study: An Average Family in Buenos Aires Needed AR$ 13,968 to be Above Poverty Line in October
![]() The same FIEL foundation, in August 7, 2015: ![]() ^^^ In that time, the needed income was AR$ 6,400. Increase respect of today: 118%. Economists see higher Argentina inflation
Edited by Che On The Rocks, Dec 8 2017, 04:53 AM.
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Actually, I agree with the Argentinian position here (so far), the US CANNOT simply cut-off the import of bio diesel for no apparent reason. 























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