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Protests Erupt in Argentina Over Food Deprivation
Topic Started: Jul 21 2017, 06:24 AM (2,089 Views)
Robert Stout
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It is impossible to state a poverty line when you have Argentina inflation....Simply say that if you are a pet hamster, you will be poor....If you pay income taxes, you will not be poor................ :oyvey
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Argentina’s New Extractivism
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Argentina is an emblematic case of expanding extractive activities – agribusiness, mega-mining, and, more recently, the exploitation of unconventional hydrocarbons through fracking – which have given rise to multiple struggles and anti-extraction movements.


That new extractivism has deep social consequences:

“Cartoneros” march on Argentinian Congress to reject plan to burn trash
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By: The Dawn News / Photos: The Dawn News / November 24, 2017
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March against police brutality in Buenos Aires
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In Argentina, every 25 hours, security forces kill a young poor man.


Argentina's Workers March in Protest Against Labor Reforms
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Workers say the new labor legislation undercuts employees' rights, lowers wages and makes union organizing more difficult.
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About 4 p.m., the protesters started marching from the Congress to the Plaza de Mayo, blocking the capital's main streets. | Photo: EFE

Argentina: Left Front Legislator Shot, Injured During Police Repression
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A worker and legislator representing the Left Front, Raúl Godoy, was hit by a rubber bullet during repression carried out by the police in the province of Neuquen and suffered a serious injury.
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After Shouting Match, Cambiemos Moves Forward with Pension Reform
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A tense committee meeting featuring insults and shouting matches.
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Agustín Rossi of the FpV (left) and Nicolás Massot of the PRO during yesterday's heated meeting. (NA / Daniel Vides)


Argentina: Social Organizations Mobilize Against Neoliberal Reforms
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“Without Land, Roof and Work, Reforms are Against the People."
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Argentina's President Mauricio Macri speaks during the Business Forum at the 11th World Trade Organization's ministerial conference in Buenos Aires, Argentina December 12, 2017. | Photo: Reuters


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One hundred billion pesos. Equals to 5.7 billion dollars.
In a few hours, we will know if such huge amount of money goes to the Argentine pensioners or to the foreign lenders. So simple -and terrible- like that.
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Argentina has always been averse to paying their foreign debts....This has severely damaged their economy so that it is harder to pay their pensioners...Argentinians really suck at economics............ :wah:
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Mr. Robert Stout: no, it more like Argentine right-wing, conservative, pro-US oligarchs suck at public economics...
...and excel at their own, private economics. :cool:
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Clashes rage as Argentine lawmakers suspend pension debate
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BUENOS AIRES, Argentina (AP) — Police firing tear gas and rubber bullets clashed with stick-wielding protesters throwing rocks outside Congress on Thursday, leading lawmakers to suspend debate on reining in Argentina’s pensions.

Union leaders and social activists opposing the proposal said the legislation would cut pension and retirement payments as well as aid for some of poor families starting in March.
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Demonstrators rush at police during clashes, in Buenos Aires, Argentina, Thursday, Dec. 14, 2017. Argentine police clashed Thursday with demonstrators protesting reforms to the retirement and pension system. (AP Photo/Natacha Pisarenko)
Read the same news at Reuters, DU, BAT, The Sun Daily, AN and teleSUR.

30 injured, 22 arrested during dramatic protests outside Congress
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An estimated 1,000 police in riot gear shot tear gas and rubber bullets at stick-wielding protesters who torched several garbage bins outside Congress and in nearby streets.
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A protester armed with a stick taunts police during clashes in Buenos Aires. Argentine police clashed Thursday with demonstrators protesting reforms to the retirement and pension system. Foto:AP-Natacha Pisarenko
Read the same news at teleSUR.

After Backlash, Casa Rosada Backtracks Decision to Pass Pension Reform By Decree
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Never underestimate the power of an ominous tweet.
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(Photo via Ricardo Pristipluk)
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How can milk in Argentina be the second expensive in the World? we import beef from Argintine, it's economically feasible even taking in account the distance - because it takes nothing to raise cettle there, almost zero cost , no colds, no snow, no warm buildings, bo heating in the winter, no special food storage for cows, they can just be left in the preriah all year long....
And generally I don't understand Argentinians - such a wonderful climate, plenty of land, beaches and palms... how can one make himself unhappy at all? :)
Edited by Siberian, Dec 15 2017, 07:30 AM.
Goood morning GULAG!!!
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More pictures and videos of The Battle of the Congress.

Journalist Pablo Piovano:
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^^^ Ten rubber bullets, fired at point blank.

National deputy Mayra Mendoza:
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^^^ Pepper spray, straight to the face.

National deputy Emilio Monzó, throwing jabs (literally!) at the opposition, into the Congress:


Fort Congress:
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^^^ No-go zone for Argentine citizens.

Argentine National Gendarmerie:
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^^^ "Experts at forensics".

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^^^ The Macri Regime giving water, for free.

Conclusion:

^^^ The Macri Regime is in a zugzwang position. If it cuts the pensions, attacks its electoral base (White, Angry, Old People). If it doesn't cut the pensions, it loses the favor of the foreign lenders.
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Siberian
Dec 15 2017, 07:27 AM
How can milk in Argentina be the second expensive in the World? we import beef from Argintine, it's economically feasible even taking in account the distance - because it takes nothing to raise cettle there, almost zero cost , no colds, no snow, no warm buildings, bo heating in the winter, no special food storage for cows, they can just be left in the preriah all year long....
And generally I don't understand Argentinians - such a wonderful climate, plenty of land, beaches and palms... how can one make himself unhappy at all? :)
Simply, Argentina lacked a Russian Revolution. :cool:
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Argentina: Thousands of Protesters Face Violent Repression in the Fight over Pension Reform
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For the past few weeks, Cambiemos — President Macri’s ruling coalition — has been trying to ram a pension reform through the House of Deputies. These efforts have unexpectedly hit a wall as mass protests outside the Congress have forced the government to put the legislation on hold.
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Read here and here, too.

FOPEA decries attacks on journalists during heated anti-reform protest
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Two journalists from Perfil and another from Página 12 received rubber bullet wounds yesterday outside Congress where lawmakers were involved in a scandalous vote on pension reform legislation.
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Perfil photo journalist Marcelo Silvestro was shot with rubber bullets during yesterday's protest outside Congress. Foto:Perfil-Marcelo Silvestro

Opposition condemns ‘militarisation’ after violent pension reform clashes
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Disturbing reports of attacks on journalists and photographers also circulated, with at least three suffering injuries at the hands of the security forces.
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Police fires tear gas at protesters on Thursday Foto:AP.

Tensions high as government lines up second push for pension reform
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Casa Rosada secures backing from governors and will return package to Lower House on Monday, days after shocking violent clashes.
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Cambiemos Lower House lawmakers including Mario Negri, Luciano Laspina and Nicolás Massot deliver a statement to the press yesterday about their meeting with governors concerning the controversial pension reform. Foto:Télam.
Read here, too.

In short: the Macri Regime still wants to rob 100 billion pesos from the pensioners, during 2018. But as "compensation", it offers them a bond of 4 billion pesos, just for this time.

Oh, the "generosity".
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Pension reform is irrelevant in Argentina with their inflation rates....Are there any old folks still alive in Argentina ???.......... :dunno:
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Mr. Robert Stout: there are some yet. They are thinking that voting for Macri perhaps was not the wisest decision. :cool:
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Clashes as Argentina congress debates pensions
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Argentina's Congress has been debating pension reforms for the second time in a week amid more violent protests in the capital, Buenos Aires.

The lower house was due to vote on the bill last Thursday but had to postpone the session because of the disturbances.

The government says the reforms will help tackle the large fiscal deficit.

But the protesters accuse the government of balancing the books at the expense of the poor.
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Police used tear gas and rubber bullets on demonstrators
Read the BAT, too.

Drone view of the GIGANTIC protest against the pension reform, Buenos Aires, morning of December 18, 2017:


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^^^ Police bikers running over a fallen protester.

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New protest, at night:
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Argentina set to pass pension reform despite melee outside Congress
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BUENOS AIRES (Reuters) - Argentina’s Congress was on track to pass a pension reform measure on Monday, even as stone-throwing protesters rushed police outside the capitol building and the country’s main union called a 24-hour general strike in opposition to the proposal.

President Mauricio Macri, elected in 2015 with a mandate to lift the heavy-handed currency and trade controls favored by his predecessors, says Argentina needs pension reform to cut its deficit, attract investment and promote sustainable growth.
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“This bill will put millions of retirees at risk. It changes the whole pension system,” Laura Rivas, a 34-year-old teacher told Reuters, standing back from the most violent protest areas.


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"Don't dishonor me; use real bullets !!!"................ :biggrin:
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Mr. Robert Stout: they use bullets made of hunger, poverty and misery.
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Argentina passes pension reform despite violent protests
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Argentina's government has passed a controversial reform of the country's pension system amid violent protests.
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Protesters clashed with police near the country's congress building on Monday

Pension Reform Bill Passes, Street Battles Rage in Argentina
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The Argentine people heroically took the streets and faced off against the police in protests against the right wing pension reform bill that drastically cuts pensions for the elderly. The right-wing government approved the bill but with a high political cost, mobilizing thousands across the country.
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Argentina’s Congress Passes Pension Reform: Mobilization, Repression and Cacerolazos
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Source: Resumen Latinoamericano / The Dawn News / December 19, 2017
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Photo Credit: Ramiro Smith

Pope, Human Rights Group: Reforms in Argentina Hurt Elderly
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The reforms affect retirees and people who receive non-contributive pensions and family allowances.
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President Mauricio Macri in a press conference after Congress approved the Pension Reform. | Photo: EFE

Macri Takes Vacation After Passing Law Against Retirees
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Amid strong protests against labor, tax and social security reforms, which have been strongly suppressed, Mauricio Macri will take a two-week break.
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Argentina's President Mauricio Macri gestures during a news conference at the Casa Rosada Presidential Palace in Buenos Aires, Argentina December 19, 2017 | Photo: Reuters
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ASC Communiqué in Condemnation of the Violent State Repression against the Pension Reform Bill Protests
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More pictures of the State repression, here.

IACHR Expresses Concern over Police Actions in Protests and Attacks on Journalists in Argentina
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Washington, D.C.—The Inter-American Commission on Human Rights (IACHR) and its Office of the Special Rapporteur for Freedom of Expression express concern over the inappropriate and indiscriminate use of force by federal security agents in Argentina, which led to scores of injuries and arrests and left dozens of journalists injured, during protests against a pension law that was under debate in that country’s Congress.
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Threats to the right to protest in Argentina
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Protests last week in Buenos Aires against pension and welfare reforms were met with a violent police response – reflecting a government rhetoric that seeks to criminalise protesters.
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Protests in Buenos Aires on 18 December 2017. Image: Javier Valente. Some rights reserved.

Macri Ignores Riots, Denounces Venezuela for Rights Abuse
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Macri’s call for respect for human rights struck many as hypocritical in light of the week’s numerous arrests in Buenos Aires.
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"I did not want to stop sending a message of solidarity and accompaniment to the Venezuelan people," Mauricio Macri said at the 51 Mercosur Summit. | Photo: Reuters
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Dec 15 2017, 07:45 AM
Siberian
Dec 15 2017, 07:27 AM
How can milk in Argentina be the second expensive in the World? we import beef from Argintine, it's economically feasible even taking in account the distance - because it takes nothing to raise cettle there, almost zero cost , no colds, no snow, no warm buildings, bo heating in the winter, no special food storage for cows, they can just be left in the preriah all year long....
And generally I don't understand Argentinians - such a wonderful climate, plenty of land, beaches and palms... how can one make himself unhappy at all? :)
Simply, Argentina lacked a Russian Revolution. :cool:
Believe me you should avoid it by all means.
Unless you want a civil war and 10 mln dead...
In your case one of the sides in this civil war will have full support of the US and its slaves while there's nothing the opposite side can do and nobody to help it. It's hopeless and will just lead to destruction of the country.

But probably protests are still good since it's still pressure..
But generally speaking, the History is a spyrall. After a turn to socialism and bigger independence in Latin America now it's turn for reaction, then there will ve revival of bigger socialism and independence.
Maybe in 10 years, and it may coinside with peak US-Russia and US-China tensions so leftists in Latin America will be also able to count on external help..
I expect Russia-West war in Ukraine not earlier than 2019-20...

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31.4% OF POPULATION
UCA report: 13.5m Argentines live in poverty
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The Catholic University of Argentina (UCA) report indicated that almost half of the people living in poverty in Argentina are children aged 0 to 14.
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Resolving chronic poverty in Argentina has long been place among the priorities of national and provincial governments. But little ever seems to change. Foto:Juan Obregon-Perfil

UP 20% ON 2016
Argentina’s foreign debt hits US$216 billion
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The national government is looking urgently at a range of tax reform measures to lower the deficit and avoid repayment obligations surpassing 4.2 percent of GDP.
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Argentina's foreign debt rose 20.3 percent in the year from the third quarter of 2016 to the same period in 2017. Foto:Cedoc

Ex-President Criticizes Macri for Argentina's Debt Crisis
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Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner denounced the pension and mortgage reforms passed by Macri's administration, saying the effects would be felt for years to come.
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The former president denounced the current administration's pension reforms, saying the effects would be felt for years to come. | Photo: EFE
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Siberian
 
Believe me you should avoid it by all means.
Unless you want a civil war and 10 mln dead...
In your case one of the sides in this civil war will have full support of the US and its slaves while there's nothing the opposite side can do and nobody to help it. It's hopeless and will just lead to destruction of the country.
Yes, i fully agree.

Siberian
 
But probably protests are still good since it's still pressure..
I think Macri begins to lose political support. It's very slow, but it's there.

Siberian
 
But generally speaking, the History is a spyrall. After a turn to socialism and bigger independence in Latin America now it's turn for reaction, then there will ve revival of bigger socialism and independence.
That is the idea.

Siberian
 
Maybe in 10 years, and it may coinside with peak US-Russia and US-China tensions so leftists in Latin America will be also able to count on external help..
May it be so...

Siberian
 
I expect Russia-West war in Ukraine not earlier than 2019-20...
May it be not so. The risks would be huge.
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not to shift discussion to Russia-related topics here is the answer
http://perspectives.com/topic/10378713/1/?x=0#post10262939
Edited by Siberian, Dec 23 2017, 09:10 AM.
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Mr. Robert Stout: Argentina has cats. Macri the Cat. :cool:
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City gov’t: 23 percent rise in number of homeless
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Officials say amount of ‘registered’ people living on the streets has risen to just over 1,000, but NGOs estimate true figure is at least four times that
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Argentina suspends capital gains tax for foreigners ahead of reforms
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BUENOS AIRES (Reuters) - Argentina on Thursday suspended a tax on foreigners' capital gains, just two days after it had been announced, after market participants complained the surprise move was inconsistent with President Mauricio Macri's pro-market agenda.


World Bank orders Argentina to pay $320 million over seized airline: newspaper
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BUENOS AIRES (Reuters) - The World Bank's arbitration tribunal has ordered Argentina to pay $320 million plus interest and legal fees to Spanish travel group Marsans for expropriating its airline Aerolineas Argentinas SA AERA.UL in 2008, a local newspaper reported on Saturday.
Read this December 18, 2013 article, too: Former Aerolíneas Argentinas heads sentenced in fraud case.

"A choice between the World Bank and the Argentine homeless?"
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"It's the easiest choice of my life, ha ha ha ha!"
The owner of Marsans in Spain is in jail for massive fraud! - H
H4T wrote: lobal] nuclear annihilation is preferable to the pre-Trump immigration/refugee policies.
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