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The Executive Orders That End Obamacare - Once and For All; Two Executive Orders
Topic Started: Jul 30 2017, 02:26 PM (176 Views)
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The Executive Orders That End Obamacare - Once and For All

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Executive Order #1: President Trump should issue an immediate Executive Order forcing every member of Congress to use the same healthcare plan as the rest of us. Let Senator McCain come off his high horse and live under the rules of Obamacare. Make every member of Congress live by same rules as the rest of us.

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Executive Order #2: President Trump should issue an immediate Executive Order demanding disclosure of all financial interests and ownership in healthcare related companies or stock by every member of Congress- including all family members and offshore accounts. Failure to disclose will result in a long prison term.

P.S. Throw in a third plank. Term Limits. Limit each member of Congress to two terms. One term in office and one term in prison.

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As a disabled veteran, McCain can get his free medical care at a VA Hospital (and be dead within 6 months)............. :hooray:
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He might actually be able to implement the first proposed executive order. The second, he has no power to implement. And the term limit plank would require a Constitutional amendment.
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He might actually be able to implement the first proposed executive order. The second, he has no power to implement. And the term limit plank would require a Constitutional amendment.
Word is he has a pen and a phone..... :dunno:
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And so far that hasn't meant a great deal.
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Congress is subject to Obamacare to the same extent that everyone else in America is subject to Obamacare.

Congress and their staff are under Obamacare “SHOP” plans, which are the same healthcare plans available to all Employers. 80% of Americans receive their healthcare insurance through these same “employer” healthcare plans.

Members of Congress have to pay a portion (low by comparison to most employer plans) of their premiums, just like all Americans that have employer plans.
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Jul 31 2017, 01:11 PM
Congress is subject to Obamacare to the same extent that everyone else in America is subject to Obamacare.

Congress and their staff are under Obamacare “SHOP” plans, which are the same healthcare plans available to all Employers. 80% of Americans receive their healthcare insurance through these same “employer” healthcare plans.

Members of Congress have to pay a portion (low by comparison to most employer plans) of their premiums, just like all Americans that have employer plans.
Actually Congress went to Obama to ask for, and they received, a special exemption:

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Congress and ObamaCare
In the early days of the push to get the ACA passed, Democrats were criticized for exempting Congress and their staffers from the exchanges.

At that time, the claims that members of Congress were exempt from ObamaCare weren’t totally without merit, as an early version of the ACA exempted Congress. However, the final bill did not.

The result of the final version of ObamaCare (the Affordable Care Act) is that members of Congress, and their staffers, have to buy their health insurance on the exchanges along with millions of other Americans… more or less. In reality, they got to follow some special rules.

Congress and their staffers use SHOP plans under the ACA (ObamaCare plans for employers). This allows them to retain their tax-payer provided “employer” contribution while still technically being on “the exchanges.” TIP: The SHOP exchange is an exchange that other normal working Americans are on, allowing Congress to be on that (rather than the individual exchanges used by non-employees) required a few special rules.

In other words, they certainly do get special treatment, but the grand result is they still have to pay a portion of their premiums and they are still on the same ObamaCare plans as normal working-class Americans.


https://obamacarefacts.com/congress-obamacare/

Which the Trump administration could, I believe, eliminate. If it wants to piss off every member of Congress and their staff, of course. Not that this is likely to be a real obstacle to Trump, since he doesn't seem to care who he pisses off, even when it accomplishes absolutely nothing of benefit for him.
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Jul 31 2017, 02:02 PM
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Jul 31 2017, 01:11 PM
Congress is subject to Obamacare to the same extent that everyone else in America is subject to Obamacare.

Congress and their staff are under Obamacare “SHOP” plans, which are the same healthcare plans available to all Employers. 80% of Americans receive their healthcare insurance through these same “employer” healthcare plans.

Members of Congress have to pay a portion (low by comparison to most employer plans) of their premiums, just like all Americans that have employer plans.
Actually Congress went to Obama to ask for, and they received, a special exemption:

Quote:
 
Congress and ObamaCare
In the early days of the push to get the ACA passed, Democrats were criticized for exempting Congress and their staffers from the exchanges.

At that time, the claims that members of Congress were exempt from ObamaCare weren’t totally without merit, as an early version of the ACA exempted Congress. However, the final bill did not.

The result of the final version of ObamaCare (the Affordable Care Act) is that members of Congress, and their staffers, have to buy their health insurance on the exchanges along with millions of other Americans… more or less. In reality, they got to follow some special rules.

Congress and their staffers use SHOP plans under the ACA (ObamaCare plans for employers). This allows them to retain their tax-payer provided “employer” contribution while still technically being on “the exchanges.” TIP: The SHOP exchange is an exchange that other normal working Americans are on, allowing Congress to be on that (rather than the individual exchanges used by non-employees) required a few special rules.

In other words, they certainly do get special treatment, but the grand result is they still have to pay a portion of their premiums and they are still on the same ObamaCare plans as normal working-class Americans.


https://obamacarefacts.com/congress-obamacare/

Which the Trump administration could, I believe, eliminate. If it wants to piss off every member of Congress and their staff, of course. Not that this is likely to be a real obstacle to Trump, since he doesn't seem to care who he pisses off, even when it accomplishes absolutely nothing of benefit for him.
Congress and their staff's should be compelled to live under the same travesty they wrought on the American people....

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If their pissed that their cush special arrangement has suddenly been rescinded the same way it was created then meh.....me so sad.... :biggrin:
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Jul 31 2017, 02:02 PM
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Jul 31 2017, 01:11 PM
Congress is subject to Obamacare to the same extent that everyone else in America is subject to Obamacare.

Congress and their staff are under Obamacare “SHOP” plans, which are the same healthcare plans available to all Employers. 80% of Americans receive their healthcare insurance through these same “employer” healthcare plans.

Members of Congress have to pay a portion (low by comparison to most employer plans) of their premiums, just like all Americans that have employer plans.
Actually Congress went to Obama to ask for, and they received, a special exemption:

Quote:
 
Congress and ObamaCare
In the early days of the push to get the ACA passed, Democrats were criticized for exempting Congress and their staffers from the exchanges.

At that time, the claims that members of Congress were exempt from ObamaCare weren’t totally without merit, as an early version of the ACA exempted Congress. However, the final bill did not.

The result of the final version of ObamaCare (the Affordable Care Act) is that members of Congress, and their staffers, have to buy their health insurance on the exchanges along with millions of other Americans… more or less. In reality, they got to follow some special rules.

Congress and their staffers use SHOP plans under the ACA (ObamaCare plans for employers). This allows them to retain their tax-payer provided “employer” contribution while still technically being on “the exchanges.” TIP: The SHOP exchange is an exchange that other normal working Americans are on, allowing Congress to be on that (rather than the individual exchanges used by non-employees) required a few special rules.

In other words, they certainly do get special treatment, but the grand result is they still have to pay a portion of their premiums and they are still on the same ObamaCare plans as normal working-class Americans.


https://obamacarefacts.com/congress-obamacare/

Which the Trump administration could, I believe, eliminate. If it wants to piss off every member of Congress and their staff, of course. Not that this is likely to be a real obstacle to Trump, since he doesn't seem to care who he pisses off, even when it accomplishes absolutely nothing of benefit for him.
None of the reporting on this issue seems to be clear.

What Happens To A Congressman's Health Insurance If Obamacare Goes Down?
http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/04/12/523335954/what-happens-to-a-congressmans-health-insurance-if-obamacare-goes-down

What type of insurance do our elected representatives in Washington, D.C., have? Is it true that they're insured on the ACA exchanges now and that any repeal and replacement will affect them too?

Under the Affordable Care Act, members of the U.S. House of Representatives, the Senate and their office staffs who want employer coverage generally have to buy it on the health insurance exchange. Before the ACA passed in 2010, they were eligible to be covered under the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program. (People working for congressional committees who are not on a member's office staff may still be covered under FEHBP.)

The members of Congress and their staffs choose from among 57 gold plans from four insurers sold on the DC Health Link's small business marketplace this year.

Approximately 11,000 are enrolled, according to Adam Hudson, a spokesperson for the exchange. The government pays about three-quarters of the cost of the premium, and workers pay the rest. They aren't eligible for federal tax credits that reduce the size of insurance premiums.

For some other members of Congress, declining exchange coverage was a political statement.

"There are several who, because of animus to Obamacare, rejected the offer of coverage, and either buy on their own or get it through a spouse," said Sabrina Corlette, a research professor at Georgetown University's Center on Health Insurance Reforms.

Proposed bills to replace the ACA don't affect this provision of the law, said Timothy Jost, a professor emeritus of law at Washington and Lee University School of Law in Lexington, Va., who has written widely on the regulation of health care and its reform.


Ar any rate, it seems unlikely that trump could affect how members of Congress receive healthcare by Executive order.
Edited by coverpoint, Jul 31 2017, 02:38 PM.
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