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Muslims appalled at 'perfect man' billboard on Indiana highway
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It appears our liberal friends are ignorant in regards to documented history, and the historical role of Islam's founder.

It is one of brutal conquest and extreme subjugation
So was yours. To my people, the only difference between their religious conquest as yours was they held the crescent, you held the cross.

And your conquest started 6 centuries before theirs did.
Actually, Christians didn't start behaving badly from the get-go. It took about 3 hundred years.
Are you saying for the first 300 years that christianity was relatively benign? From year 1-300 or so?

If that is what you are saying then I tend to agree. Christianity as practiced by the original church was a peaceful religion that quite often was persecuted. Then Constantine made Christianity the state religion of Rome and suddenly it was the Christians doing the persecution of all who were not Christian.

Think about the timeline. Rome was a pagan nation for nearly 850 years. Christians represented 10% or less of the population of the Empire in 300AD. By 420AD the vast majority of Romans were Christian and Christians were the people persecuting other religions and killing off their philosophers such as Hypatia.

Frankly it shows the danger of having an organized religion. When Christianity was unorganized and mainly split into many individual congregations who kept to themselves they were quite peaceful and inclusive. Once they became organized and were given just a little power it went down hill in a hurry.

In general terms this has been true of all religion and really all things. Power corrupts and ultimate power corrupts ultimately.
Organization trumps disorganization. That's one nonsensical criticism
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Aug 9 2017, 07:49 PM
It appears our liberal friends are ignorant in regards to documented history, and the historical role of Islam's founder.

It is one of brutal conquest and extreme subjugation
So was yours. To my people, the only difference between their religious conquest as yours was they held the crescent, you held the cross.

And your conquest started 6 centuries before theirs did.
Actually, Christians didn't start behaving badly from the get-go. It took about 3 hundred years.
Are you saying for the first 300 years that christianity was relatively benign? From year 1-300 or so?

If that is what you are saying then I tend to agree. Christianity as practiced by the original church was a peaceful religion that quite often was persecuted. Then Constantine made Christianity the state religion of Rome and suddenly it was the Christians doing the persecution of all who were not Christian.

Think about the timeline. Rome was a pagan nation for nearly 850 years. Christians represented 10% or less of the population of the Empire in 300AD. By 420AD the vast majority of Romans were Christian and Christians were the people persecuting other religions and killing off their philosophers such as Hypatia.

Frankly it shows the danger of having an organized religion. When Christianity was unorganized and mainly split into many individual congregations who kept to themselves they were quite peaceful and inclusive. Once they became organized and were given just a little power it went down hill in a hurry.

In general terms this has been true of all religion and really all things. Power corrupts and ultimate power corrupts ultimately.
Organization trumps disorganization. That's one nonsensical criticism
I notice you didn't refute his statements?
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Actually, Christians didn't start behaving badly from the get-go. It took about 3 hundred years.
Are you saying for the first 300 years that christianity was relatively benign? From year 1-300 or so?

If that is what you are saying then I tend to agree. Christianity as practiced by the original church was a peaceful religion that quite often was persecuted. Then Constantine made Christianity the state religion of Rome and suddenly it was the Christians doing the persecution of all who were not Christian.

Think about the timeline. Rome was a pagan nation for nearly 850 years. Christians represented 10% or less of the population of the Empire in 300AD. By 420AD the vast majority of Romans were Christian and Christians were the people persecuting other religions and killing off their philosophers such as Hypatia.

Frankly it shows the danger of having an organized religion. When Christianity was unorganized and mainly split into many individual congregations who kept to themselves they were quite peaceful and inclusive. Once they became organized and were given just a little power it went down hill in a hurry.

In general terms this has been true of all religion and really all things. Power corrupts and ultimate power corrupts ultimately.
Organization trumps disorganization. That's one nonsensical criticism
I notice you didn't refute his statements?
Why would I have? The disorganized Christianity of North Africa did not resists the Saracens. The Spaniards appreciated organization and we see how that worked out.
Edited by Harambe4Trump, Aug 10 2017, 02:54 PM.
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It appears our liberal friends are ignorant in regards to documented history, and the historical role of Islam's founder.

It is one of brutal conquest and extreme subjugation
So was yours. To my people, the only difference between their religious conquest as yours was they held the crescent, you held the cross.

And your conquest started 6 centuries before theirs did.
Actually, Christians didn't start behaving badly from the get-go. It took about 3 hundred years.
Are you saying for the first 300 years that christianity was relatively benign? From year 1-300 or so?

If that is what you are saying then I tend to agree. Christianity as practiced by the original church was a peaceful religion that quite often was persecuted. Then Constantine made Christianity the state religion of Rome and suddenly it was the Christians doing the persecution of all who were not Christian.

Think about the timeline. Rome was a pagan nation for nearly 850 years. Christians represented 10% or less of the population of the Empire in 300AD. By 420AD the vast majority of Romans were Christian and Christians were the people persecuting other religions and killing off their philosophers such as Hypatia.

Frankly it shows the danger of having an organized religion. When Christianity was unorganized and mainly split into many individual congregations who kept to themselves they were quite peaceful and inclusive. Once they became organized and were given just a little power it went down hill in a hurry.

In general terms this has been true of all religion and really all things. Power corrupts and ultimate power corrupts ultimately.
Organization trumps disorganization. That's one nonsensical criticism
That depends on what your goals are.

If your goal is to subjugate people and force them to join your religion, or to use the power of the "opiate of the masses" to control nations, well then you are correct organized religion is much better at that kind of thing.

On the other hand, if your goal is to help your community and the members of your church in their lives and to coexist peacefully with your neighbors and other different religions, well then in that case, local, non-affiliated churches tend to be much better at that than large international organizations.
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Are you saying for the first 300 years that christianity was relatively benign? From year 1-300 or so?

If that is what you are saying then I tend to agree. Christianity as practiced by the original church was a peaceful religion that quite often was persecuted. Then Constantine made Christianity the state religion of Rome and suddenly it was the Christians doing the persecution of all who were not Christian.

Think about the timeline. Rome was a pagan nation for nearly 850 years. Christians represented 10% or less of the population of the Empire in 300AD. By 420AD the vast majority of Romans were Christian and Christians were the people persecuting other religions and killing off their philosophers such as Hypatia.

Frankly it shows the danger of having an organized religion. When Christianity was unorganized and mainly split into many individual congregations who kept to themselves they were quite peaceful and inclusive. Once they became organized and were given just a little power it went down hill in a hurry.

In general terms this has been true of all religion and really all things. Power corrupts and ultimate power corrupts ultimately.
Organization trumps disorganization. That's one nonsensical criticism
I notice you didn't refute his statements?
Why would I have? The disorganized Christianity of North Africa did not resists the Saracens. The Spaniards appreciated organization and we see how that worked out.
As far as I know, the Coptic Church is still alive in North Africa.
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Actually, Christians didn't start behaving badly from the get-go. It took about 3 hundred years.
Are you saying for the first 300 years that christianity was relatively benign? From year 1-300 or so?

If that is what you are saying then I tend to agree. Christianity as practiced by the original church was a peaceful religion that quite often was persecuted. Then Constantine made Christianity the state religion of Rome and suddenly it was the Christians doing the persecution of all who were not Christian.

Think about the timeline. Rome was a pagan nation for nearly 850 years. Christians represented 10% or less of the population of the Empire in 300AD. By 420AD the vast majority of Romans were Christian and Christians were the people persecuting other religions and killing off their philosophers such as Hypatia.

Frankly it shows the danger of having an organized religion. When Christianity was unorganized and mainly split into many individual congregations who kept to themselves they were quite peaceful and inclusive. Once they became organized and were given just a little power it went down hill in a hurry.

In general terms this has been true of all religion and really all things. Power corrupts and ultimate power corrupts ultimately.
Organization trumps disorganization. That's one nonsensical criticism
That depends on what your goals are.

If your goal is to subjugate people and force them to join your religion, or to use the power of the "opiate of the masses" to control nations, well then you are correct organized religion is much better at that kind of thing.

On the other hand, if your goal is to help your community and the members of your church in their lives and to coexist peacefully with your neighbors and other different religions, well then in that case, local, non-affiliated churches tend to be much better at that than large international organizations.
Interesting. So you believe that a local or community church should be disorganized? Eastern Orthodox have been local affairs for a millennia; they are not disorganized.
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Organization trumps disorganization. That's one nonsensical criticism
I notice you didn't refute his statements?
Why would I have? The disorganized Christianity of North Africa did not resists the Saracens. The Spaniards appreciated organization and we see how that worked out.
As far as I know, the Coptic Church is still alive in North Africa.
That's why you don't play jeopardy.
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I notice you didn't refute his statements?
Why would I have? The disorganized Christianity of North Africa did not resists the Saracens. The Spaniards appreciated organization and we see how that worked out.
As far as I know, the Coptic Church is still alive in North Africa.
That's why you don't play jeopardy.
That's why you failed basic world history in high school, the Egyptian government estimates approximately 5 million Coptic Christians at last census.
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Why would I have? The disorganized Christianity of North Africa did not resists the Saracens. The Spaniards appreciated organization and we see how that worked out.
As far as I know, the Coptic Church is still alive in North Africa.
That's why you don't play jeopardy.
That's why you failed basic world history in high school, the Egyptian government estimates approximately 5 million Coptic Christians at last census.
A) that's one country in N Africa. What's the Christian population of Algeria?

B) Egypt was once majority Christian. How do you suppose that changed?
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As far as I know, the Coptic Church is still alive in North Africa.
That's why you don't play jeopardy.
That's why you failed basic world history in high school, the Egyptian government estimates approximately 5 million Coptic Christians at last census.
A) that's one country in N Africa. What's the Christian population of Algeria?

B) Egypt was once majority Christian. How do you suppose that changed?
One country where the faith has existed since the manifestation of Christianity in North Africa, despite the arrival of Islam. 5 million believers of the faith in one of the oldest known forms of Christianity.

Your question was answered, you answered with two more, and were also irrevelent to your question.
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That's why you don't play jeopardy.
That's why you failed basic world history in high school, the Egyptian government estimates approximately 5 million Coptic Christians at last census.
A) that's one country in N Africa. What's the Christian population of Algeria?

B) Egypt was once majority Christian. How do you suppose that changed?
One country where the faith has existed since the manifestation of Christianity in North Africa, despite the arrival of Islam. 5 million believers of the faith in one of the oldest known forms of Christianity.

Your question was answered, you answered with two more, and were also irrevelent to your question.
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It appears our liberal friends are ignorant in regards to documented history, and the historical role of Islam's founder.

It is one of brutal conquest and extreme subjugation
So was yours. To my people, the only difference between their religious conquest as yours was they held the crescent, you held the cross.

And your conquest started 6 centuries before theirs did.
Actually, Christians didn't start behaving badly from the get-go. It took about 3 hundred years.
Are you saying for the first 300 years that christianity was relatively benign? From year 1-300 or so?

If that is what you are saying then I tend to agree. Christianity as practiced by the original church was a peaceful religion that quite often was persecuted. Then Constantine made Christianity the state religion of Rome and suddenly it was the Christians doing the persecution of all who were not Christian.

Think about the timeline. Rome was a pagan nation for nearly 850 years. Christians represented 10% or less of the population of the Empire in 300AD. By 420AD the vast majority of Romans were Christian and Christians were the people persecuting other religions and killing off their philosophers such as Hypatia.

Frankly it shows the danger of having an organized religion. When Christianity was unorganized and mainly split into many individual congregations who kept to themselves they were quite peaceful and inclusive. Once they became organized and were given just a little power it went down hill in a hurry.

In general terms this has been true of all religion and really all things. Power corrupts and ultimate power corrupts ultimately.
Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying. In fact, when people like to say Christianity is just as bad as Islam, I like to point out that the first Christians and their make-believe friend Jesus were peaceful in stark contrast to the first Muslims and their real life role model Mohamed. Everything on that billboard is true.
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It appears our liberal friends are ignorant in regards to documented history, and the historical role of Islam's founder.

It is one of brutal conquest and extreme subjugation
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Why would I have? The disorganized Christianity of North Africa did not resists the Saracens. The Spaniards appreciated organization and we see how that worked out.
As far as I know, the Coptic Church is still alive in North Africa.
That's why you don't play jeopardy.
That's why you failed basic world history in high school, the Egyptian government estimates approximately 5 million Coptic Christians at last census.
Yes, and when the Obama Administration helped install the Muslim Brotherhood, they immediately started slaughtering the Coptics!

You sir, have aligned yourself with the enemy.
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