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| Trump to Address Nation on ‘Path Forward’ in Afghanistan on Monday Night; Great, Donny John is going to dig us in deeper. | |
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| Opinionated | Aug 20 2017, 11:02 PM Post #1 |
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http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/trump-address-nation-path-forward-afghanistan-monday-night-n794356 President Donald Trump will discuss the "path forward" in Afghanistan in a speech on Monday night, the White House said in a statement Sunday. The speech, to be delivered at the Fort Myer military base in Arlington, Virginia, at 9 p.m. ET, will "provide an update on the path forward for America’s engagement in Afghanistan and South Asia," the statement said. The address comes after a lengthy strategy review in which White House and Pentagon officials mulled a more aggressive role for the American military in Afghanistan. |
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| Robert Stout | Aug 20 2017, 11:07 PM Post #2 |
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The best strategy in Afghanistan is to cut our losses and get the hell out of that nation of primitives..............
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| Che On The Rocks | Aug 21 2017, 06:37 AM Post #3 |
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The victor, the spoils? Trump eyes Afghanistan's elusive mineral riches
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Free Milagro Sala! What happened to Santiago Maldonado? What happened to ARA San Juan? Mapuche Lives Matter! Stop the political persecution in Argentina! Stop the looting of Argentina! | |
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| Opinionated | Aug 21 2017, 08:15 AM Post #4 |
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Trump demands "wins". He won't settle for anything less than something he can label a "win". So I predict he will dump additional troops in Afghanistan under the delusion that there is a "win" to be had there. And more Americans will die because our leadership is too stupid to cut our losses and leave Afghanistan to the Afghans. |
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| George Aligator | Aug 21 2017, 08:55 AM Post #5 |
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The Trump "surge" may involve the for-profit army to be raised by Mrs. DeVos' brother and the appointment of a "viceroy" reporting directly to POTUS. Privatizing the Afghan war has been under discussion for some time. Baghram air base will be renamed Fort Trump. It may be a new page in American history. |
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| Opinionated | Aug 21 2017, 09:54 AM Post #6 |
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If you haven't won a military victory in sixteen years, it's time to accept that there is no military victory to be had. |
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| Attaburnsinhell | Aug 21 2017, 10:32 AM Post #7 |
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Afghanistan is not a nation anymore, but rather a loose collection of tribal states. It's always been known as the graveyard of empires Anyone who tries to hold the illusion that it can be unified under one government will always see that to be elusive It took the Taliban years to push out the Kabul government propped up by the Russians, but only took a few weeks for them to get kicked out of power in 2002. Seizing power there is easy, making it work is next to impossible We'd be better off letting the Taliban take over again, then kick their asses out....again Edited by Attaburnsinhell, Aug 21 2017, 10:33 AM.
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| clone | Aug 21 2017, 03:11 PM Post #8 |
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Director @ Center for Advanced Memetic Warfare
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Hmmnn....Bills vs Browns preseason game or Trump? Gotta go with watching Daddy....
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Only liberals can choose not to go down the road to widespread, systematic violence. | |
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| CautionaryTales | Aug 21 2017, 03:16 PM Post #9 |
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More ground troops. Fashy...maybe you should re-enlist? No sacrifice is too great for your god chumperor Edited by CautionaryTales, Aug 21 2017, 03:19 PM.
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Have you paid your internet taxes? | |
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| George Aligator | Aug 21 2017, 03:52 PM Post #10 |
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Let's not sell our military short on Afghanistan. They have won more military victories than you can count. What we haven't been able to win is the minds and hearts of the Afghan people. No force on earth -- and certainly not the Taliban insurgents who haven't got airpower or significant armor -- can stand up to the US military. They have done their job on the battlefield and a lot more. What they can't do, and which nobody else has ever managed either, is to create a strong central government in support of non-Muslim invaders. No big surprise there. |
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| Opinionated | Aug 21 2017, 04:11 PM Post #11 |
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That seems like splitting hairs. Yes, the U.S. military has won numerous military victories in Afghanistan, all of which amount to next to nothing because the Taliban just falls back across the border into Pakistan and the surrounding mountains, where it is pretty much impossible to pry them out, and just waits for U.S. troops to fall back and leave control of the recaptured territory to local forces. And then they come back out of the mountains and kick the crap out of the local forces, most of which don't have any education to speak of, aren't from the area they're "protecting", and who may have been trained by U.S. troops, but who have little in the way of real loyalty to their leadership in Kabul and certainly not enough to really risk their lives if they don't have to. Expecting the Afghan government to stand on its own without being propped up by the U.S. military seems to be a fantasy born, perhaps, in to much imbibing in Afghanistan's primary illicit agricultural export. |
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| Siberian | Aug 21 2017, 04:16 PM Post #12 |
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oh, what a surprise, it just can't be that a US president, who has so many problems at home suddenly decides not to start another war ro distract US public's attention as all other US presidents do but quite the opposite, to withdraw... It would change my opinion on Trump (to much better one) as both a fighter and a politician. but for some reason I don't think it's going to happen
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| Robert Stout | Aug 21 2017, 10:13 PM Post #13 |
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If we get out of Afghanistan, cut the military budget, and lay off half our Generals, the Pentagon may figure out how to win the next war........... :oyvey |
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| clone | Aug 21 2017, 10:32 PM Post #14 |
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The President will address the nation tonight on our Afghanistan strategy, which is weird because Obama said we won that a long time ago...
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Only liberals can choose not to go down the road to widespread, systematic violence. | |
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| Harambe4Trump | Aug 21 2017, 11:04 PM Post #15 |
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There was a reason why the elite wanted Banon gone. |
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Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary. #MAGA #wallsnotwars | |
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| Harambe4Trump | Aug 21 2017, 11:41 PM Post #16 |
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Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary. #MAGA #wallsnotwars | |
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| Robert Stout | Aug 22 2017, 01:16 AM Post #17 |
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I can only dream of a day we have a President who doesn't kiss the ass of the Pentagon....The Pentagon is more effective in politics than they are in war..........
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| Siberian | Aug 22 2017, 03:12 AM Post #18 |
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The US just can't afford itself to let Taliban eliminate opium production which multiplied under American occupation and which supplies opium to Russia and Europe.... Though, it's good the US stays in this swamp and spends huge money
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| Che On The Rocks | Aug 22 2017, 04:37 AM Post #19 |
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The Revolution Betrayed
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Free Milagro Sala! What happened to Santiago Maldonado? What happened to ARA San Juan? Mapuche Lives Matter! Stop the political persecution in Argentina! Stop the looting of Argentina! | |
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| Che On The Rocks | Aug 22 2017, 04:50 AM Post #20 |
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Trump vows continued fight in Afghanistan; reversing stance
![]() President Donald Trump speaks at Fort Myer in Arlington Va., Monday, Aug. 21, 2017, during a Presidential Address to the Nation about a strategy he believes will best position the U.S. to eventually declare victory in Afghanistan. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster) Taliban responds to Trump's Afghan strategy
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