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Russian oil sales to China surge dramatically
Topic Started: Aug 23 2017, 04:01 PM (136 Views)
Siberian
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For the fifth consecutive month, Russia remains China's top crude oil supplier with July shipments up 54 percent year-on-year.

https://www.rt.com/business/400642-russia-china-oil-trade/
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I suspect the US pushes Russia and China to form an anti-American alliance only because US generals want to unite US-China and US-Russia conflicts into one war, since US military doctrine stipulates that US army must wage not more than 3 military conflicts simultaneously, and there are already too many, there's no way to start new wars but grouping them in bigger ones... :)
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Drudge X
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That's nice but you still don't trust each other. :lol:
Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind.
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Drudge X
Aug 23 2017, 04:59 PM
That's nice but you still don't trust each other. :lol:
we don't need to, the US is a present equivalent of Hitler of WWII, there will be a USA-USSR-like temporary alliance against the Hitlerite US. And after you are defeated, reestablished as the United states of Mexico and some Dakotastan, we may think of creating an alliance with one of 2 (or more) new countries on former US territory to counter Chinese... :)
Edited by Siberian, Aug 23 2017, 06:32 PM.
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Siberian
Aug 23 2017, 06:30 PM
Drudge X
Aug 23 2017, 04:59 PM
That's nice but you still don't trust each other. :lol:
we don't need to, the US is a present equivalent of Hitler of WWII, there will be a USA-USSR-like temporary alliance against the Hitlerite US. And after you are defeated, reestablished as the United states of Mexico and some Dakotastan, we may think of creating an alliance with one of 2 (or more) new countries on former US territory to counter Chinese... :)
Wishful thought but China will finish you off first after this faux alliance. :lol:
Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind.
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Well, the threat that millions of Chinese will just immigrate and settle in the Russian Far East has been existing for quite a long, but for 25 years of borders being open it still never happened...
Of course China is dangerous if it becomes as agressive as the US is, but Chinese are not less vulnerable to nuclear weapon as Americans, I think scenario of milirary invasion is unlikely. :) A hybrid war if Chineze settlers revolt is more a threat but there are no Chinese settlers in proper numbers.
So, we still have a century to together deal with the US and then we'll see.... :)
Edited by Siberian, Aug 24 2017, 02:04 AM.
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Drudge, don't let illusions capture you. USSR was as mighty as the US and collapsed from within, the same will happen to the US, it is overloaded with problens and factors tearing it apart and waiting for proper conditions. Which the collapse of Dollar debt pyramid = World economic crisis is. It's not if but when. You know there is no solution to this problem since a radical cure is as deadly as uncontrolled collapse. The cure is that new balance cannot take place withour radical decline in consumption.
Current generation of bankers doesn't want to hang on trees, current generation of establishment demonstrates absolute readiness to throw the US into civil war and to completely discredit US institutions to keep power - as you can see on Trump's example.
So, everything is sacrificed for the sake of postponing the financial, economic and thus general collapse, even if it makes perspectives of survival worse.
The collapse of the USA is a matter of time, not less, not more.
Edited by Siberian, Aug 24 2017, 02:48 AM.
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Siberian
Aug 24 2017, 01:58 AM
Well, the threat that millions of Chinese will just immigrate and settle in the Russian Far East has been existing for quite a long, but for 25 years of borders being open it still never happened...
Of course China is dangerous if it becomes as agressive as the US is, but Chinese are not less vulnerable to nuclear weapon as Americans, I think scenario of milirary invasion is unlikely. :) A hybrid war if Chineze settlers revolt is more a threat but there are no Chinese settlers in proper numbers.
So, we still have a century to together deal with the US and then we'll see.... :)
Russia is losing population. Nobody wants to go there. China is a much better place to live. The Russian people would be better if China took them over. The US would side with China.
Once we're in enemy territory, as a bushwhackin' guerrilla army, we're gonna be doin' one thing and one thing only... killin' Nazis. -Lt. Aldo Raine-
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ElRondo
Aug 24 2017, 03:28 AM
Siberian
Aug 24 2017, 01:58 AM
Well, the threat that millions of Chinese will just immigrate and settle in the Russian Far East has been existing for quite a long, but for 25 years of borders being open it still never happened...
Of course China is dangerous if it becomes as agressive as the US is, but Chinese are not less vulnerable to nuclear weapon as Americans, I think scenario of milirary invasion is unlikely. :) A hybrid war if Chineze settlers revolt is more a threat but there are no Chinese settlers in proper numbers.
So, we still have a century to together deal with the US and then we'll see.... :)
Russia is losing population. Nobody wants to go there. China is a much better place to live. The Russian people would be better if China took them over. The US would side with China.
don't believe US government propaganda and American mass media too much :), population of Russia is growing
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and the US doesn't have so much national production to sacrifice to buy China's loyalty for long :)
The problem for the US is that it can't just gradually become number 2, the entire US economy and wealth is based on Dollar World reserve and trade currency status and monopoly, it allows the US to (temporarily) maintain unsustainable debt pyramid, have almost zero interest rate (which is an enormous, giant factor of super-competitiveness) and generally keeps the US economy alive.
If deprived of the ability to limitlessly issue debt and credit national economy with 0% - the US economy will abruptly spyrall down into hyperinflation, disruption of trade and industrial cooperation chains, food and other vital goods shortages, social disorder, civil and eacial war etc.
China is already the biggest World economy if counted with purchaising power parity approach. It's a matter of time when Chinese Yuan substitutes Dollar as the World reserve currency.
So, chances of Chimerica or any real alliance is lower than zero :)
While Russia's ambitions and vulnerability is quite limited :) There can hardly be any scenario in which Russia doesn't benefit from something.
Edited by Siberian, Aug 24 2017, 04:47 AM.
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