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Southern California fire is 'out of control,' forcing thousands to evacuate
Topic Started: Dec 5 2017, 12:44 PM (429 Views)
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/05/us/ventura-county-fire-california/index.html

Ventura, California (CNN)Pushed by powerful Santa Ana winds, a fire spread with explosive speed to more than 30,000 acres Monday night and early Tuesday in Southern California's Ventura County, destroying dozens of buildings and forcing thousands to evacuate in the dark.

The fire began north of Santa Paula on Monday evening and spread into the edges of Ventura, a city of more than 100,000 people situated on the Pacific coast, the county sheriff's office said.
The fast-moving fire forced sheriff's deputies to scramble into neighborhoods and knock on doors to warn residents to evacuate.
By early Tuesday the fire had burned 31,000 acres in nine hours -- covering an area more than twice the size of Manhattan at a rate of nearly an acre per second

Latest developments
• About 150 buildings have been destroyed, the sheriff's office said, and more than 7,700 homes in Ventura and Santa Paula were under mandatory evacuation as fire officials warned the powerful winds could push flames further into Ventura.

• A dead animal was found at the site of a rollover car crash near the evacuation zone Monday night, Ventura fire officials said. Initially, authorities reported that a person had died there, but they later clarified that no human body had been found.
• At the fire's roughly acre-per-second burn rate overnight into early Tuesday, it would have covered Manhattan's Central Park in about 15 minutes.

• "The fire is still out of control and structures are threatened throughout the fire area," the Ventura County Sheriff's Office said on a local emergency preparedness website. "Due to the intensity of the fire, crews are having trouble making access, but there are multiple reports of structures on fire."
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Lets all hope that none of our California members are in the path of this thing. My thoughts are with you guys.
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Arson. Just like Santa Rosa.
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It's bad, real bad. Two fires. The Ventura Fire and the Kagel Fire (the closer one to me).
Smoke in the not too distance where I am, but where we are is fine.


The winds are a big problem. Bad enough that prior to the fires starting they already were distributing crews around for a more rapid response and the worst fears were realized.
Winds so bad and smoke so thick that they can't bring in the fixed wings or at times the water dropping helicopters.


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Dec 5 2017, 07:15 PM
It's bad, real bad. Two fires. The Ventura Fire and the Kagel Fire (the closer one to me).
Smoke in the not too distance where I am, but where we are is fine.


The winds are a big problem. Bad enough that prior to the fires starting they already were distributing crews around for a more rapid response and the worst fears were realized.
Winds so bad and smoke so thick that they can't bring in the fixed wings or at times the water dropping helicopters.


Not cool, we saw some of that here with the big fire they had in the Okefenokee Swamp earlier this year. Same problem with it being dry and high winds.

Mind you, our natural winds are probably nothing compared to yours in Cali. That and it is normally fairly humid here in North Florida/South Georgia. Fire is almost always a bigger problem out west than it is here.

I know crews are coming in to fight these things from all over. Our prayers are with them and everyone in the area. Maybe you can get lucky and have some rain.
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Dec 5 2017, 07:20 PM
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Dec 5 2017, 07:15 PM
It's bad, real bad. Two fires. The Ventura Fire and the Kagel Fire (the closer one to me).
Smoke in the not too distance where I am, but where we are is fine.


The winds are a big problem. Bad enough that prior to the fires starting they already were distributing crews around for a more rapid response and the worst fears were realized.
Winds so bad and smoke so thick that they can't bring in the fixed wings or at times the water dropping helicopters.


Not cool, we saw some of that here with the big fire they had in the Okefenokee Swamp earlier this year. Same problem with it being dry and high winds.

Mind you, our natural winds are probably nothing compared to yours in Cali. That and it is normally fairly humid here in North Florida/South Georgia. Fire is almost always a bigger problem out west than it is here.

I know crews are coming in to fight these things from all over. Our prayers are with them and everyone in the area. Maybe you can get lucky and have some rain.
We will not unfortunately be getting any rain. The Santa Ana winds are high and they will be with us until Thursday. Worse, the winds don't lay down at night and are at their worse at dawn.





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The Santa Ana winds are hideous as I recall...fast and HOT.
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Dec 5 2017, 07:25 PM
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Dec 5 2017, 07:20 PM
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Dec 5 2017, 07:15 PM
It's bad, real bad. Two fires. The Ventura Fire and the Kagel Fire (the closer one to me).
Smoke in the not too distance where I am, but where we are is fine.


The winds are a big problem. Bad enough that prior to the fires starting they already were distributing crews around for a more rapid response and the worst fears were realized.
Winds so bad and smoke so thick that they can't bring in the fixed wings or at times the water dropping helicopters.


Not cool, we saw some of that here with the big fire they had in the Okefenokee Swamp earlier this year. Same problem with it being dry and high winds.

Mind you, our natural winds are probably nothing compared to yours in Cali. That and it is normally fairly humid here in North Florida/South Georgia. Fire is almost always a bigger problem out west than it is here.

I know crews are coming in to fight these things from all over. Our prayers are with them and everyone in the area. Maybe you can get lucky and have some rain.
We will not unfortunately be getting any rain. The Santa Ana winds are high and they will be with us until Thursday. Worse, the winds don't lay down at night and are at their worse at dawn.





Well crap, I guess let's hope that the firefighters can limit the loss of life. The loss of stuff is horrible and life changing but stuff can be replaced, lives can not.
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Dec 5 2017, 07:15 PM
It's bad, real bad. Two fires. The Ventura Fire and the Kagel Fire (the closer one to me).
Smoke in the not too distance where I am, but where we are is fine.


The winds are a big problem. Bad enough that prior to the fires starting they already were distributing crews around for a more rapid response and the worst fears were realized.
Winds so bad and smoke so thick that they can't bring in the fixed wings or at times the water dropping helicopters.


Not cool, we saw some of that here with the big fire they had in the Okefenokee Swamp earlier this year. Same problem with it being dry and high winds.

Mind you, our natural winds are probably nothing compared to yours in Cali. That and it is normally fairly humid here in North Florida/South Georgia. Fire is almost always a bigger problem out west than it is here.

I know crews are coming in to fight these things from all over. Our prayers are with them and everyone in the area. Maybe you can get lucky and have some rain.
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Dec 5 2017, 07:52 PM
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Dec 5 2017, 07:20 PM
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Dec 5 2017, 07:15 PM
It's bad, real bad. Two fires. The Ventura Fire and the Kagel Fire (the closer one to me).
Smoke in the not too distance where I am, but where we are is fine.


The winds are a big problem. Bad enough that prior to the fires starting they already were distributing crews around for a more rapid response and the worst fears were realized.
Winds so bad and smoke so thick that they can't bring in the fixed wings or at times the water dropping helicopters.


Not cool, we saw some of that here with the big fire they had in the Okefenokee Swamp earlier this year. Same problem with it being dry and high winds.

Mind you, our natural winds are probably nothing compared to yours in Cali. That and it is normally fairly humid here in North Florida/South Georgia. Fire is almost always a bigger problem out west than it is here.

I know crews are coming in to fight these things from all over. Our prayers are with them and everyone in the area. Maybe you can get lucky and have some rain.
Okefenokee Swamp: Best canoe trip ever..... :cheers:
That it is. :cheers:
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Dec 5 2017, 07:52 PM
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Dec 5 2017, 07:15 PM
It's bad, real bad. Two fires. The Ventura Fire and the Kagel Fire (the closer one to me).
Smoke in the not too distance where I am, but where we are is fine.


The winds are a big problem. Bad enough that prior to the fires starting they already were distributing crews around for a more rapid response and the worst fears were realized.
Winds so bad and smoke so thick that they can't bring in the fixed wings or at times the water dropping helicopters.


Not cool, we saw some of that here with the big fire they had in the Okefenokee Swamp earlier this year. Same problem with it being dry and high winds.

Mind you, our natural winds are probably nothing compared to yours in Cali. That and it is normally fairly humid here in North Florida/South Georgia. Fire is almost always a bigger problem out west than it is here.

I know crews are coming in to fight these things from all over. Our prayers are with them and everyone in the area. Maybe you can get lucky and have some rain.
Okefenokee Swamp: Best canoe trip ever..... :cheers:
That it is. :cheers:
Meh. I did that once. Got eatin' by a Gator. Took me three days to get out. :mad:


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Dec 5 2017, 07:34 PM
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Dec 5 2017, 07:25 PM
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Dec 5 2017, 07:15 PM
It's bad, real bad. Two fires. The Ventura Fire and the Kagel Fire (the closer one to me).
Smoke in the not too distance where I am, but where we are is fine.


The winds are a big problem. Bad enough that prior to the fires starting they already were distributing crews around for a more rapid response and the worst fears were realized.
Winds so bad and smoke so thick that they can't bring in the fixed wings or at times the water dropping helicopters.


Not cool, we saw some of that here with the big fire they had in the Okefenokee Swamp earlier this year. Same problem with it being dry and high winds.

Mind you, our natural winds are probably nothing compared to yours in Cali. That and it is normally fairly humid here in North Florida/South Georgia. Fire is almost always a bigger problem out west than it is here.

I know crews are coming in to fight these things from all over. Our prayers are with them and everyone in the area. Maybe you can get lucky and have some rain.
We will not unfortunately be getting any rain. The Santa Ana winds are high and they will be with us until Thursday. Worse, the winds don't lay down at night and are at their worse at dawn.





Well crap, I guess let's hope that the firefighters can limit the loss of life. The loss of stuff is horrible and life changing but stuff can be replaced, lives can not.
We now have three fires going and breaking at the moment is a fourth one.

Going to be a long night for many.


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Dec 5 2017, 08:22 PM
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Dec 5 2017, 07:15 PM
It's bad, real bad. Two fires. The Ventura Fire and the Kagel Fire (the closer one to me).
Smoke in the not too distance where I am, but where we are is fine.


The winds are a big problem. Bad enough that prior to the fires starting they already were distributing crews around for a more rapid response and the worst fears were realized.
Winds so bad and smoke so thick that they can't bring in the fixed wings or at times the water dropping helicopters.


Not cool, we saw some of that here with the big fire they had in the Okefenokee Swamp earlier this year. Same problem with it being dry and high winds.

Mind you, our natural winds are probably nothing compared to yours in Cali. That and it is normally fairly humid here in North Florida/South Georgia. Fire is almost always a bigger problem out west than it is here.

I know crews are coming in to fight these things from all over. Our prayers are with them and everyone in the area. Maybe you can get lucky and have some rain.
We will not unfortunately be getting any rain. The Santa Ana winds are high and they will be with us until Thursday. Worse, the winds don't lay down at night and are at their worse at dawn.





Well crap, I guess let's hope that the firefighters can limit the loss of life. The loss of stuff is horrible and life changing but stuff can be replaced, lives can not.
We now have three fires going and breaking at the moment is a fourth one.

Going to be a long night for many.


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I've asked this question before....with no real answer.

Does CA do hazard reduction burns?
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God gave the Californians the rain they prayed for and a lot of underbrush, only to burn their perverted azzes later............. :rollseyes:
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I've asked this question before....with no real answer.

Does CA do hazard reduction burns?
Yes.

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I've asked this question before....with no real answer.

Does CA do hazard reduction burns?
Yes.

No....Not if it harms endangered lizards............... :biggrin:
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Dec 5 2017, 07:15 PM
It's bad, real bad. Two fires. The Ventura Fire and the Kagel Fire (the closer one to me).
Smoke in the not too distance where I am, but where we are is fine.


The winds are a big problem. Bad enough that prior to the fires starting they already were distributing crews around for a more rapid response and the worst fears were realized.
Winds so bad and smoke so thick that they can't bring in the fixed wings or at times the water dropping helicopters.


Not cool, we saw some of that here with the big fire they had in the Okefenokee Swamp earlier this year. Same problem with it being dry and high winds.

Mind you, our natural winds are probably nothing compared to yours in Cali. That and it is normally fairly humid here in North Florida/South Georgia. Fire is almost always a bigger problem out west than it is here.

I know crews are coming in to fight these things from all over. Our prayers are with them and everyone in the area. Maybe you can get lucky and have some rain.
We will not unfortunately be getting any rain. The Santa Ana winds are high and they will be with us until Thursday. Worse, the winds don't lay down at night and are at their worse at dawn.





Well crap, I guess let's hope that the firefighters can limit the loss of life. The loss of stuff is horrible and life changing but stuff can be replaced, lives can not.
We now have three fires going and breaking at the moment is a fourth one.

Going to be a long night for many.


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Here is a link with some imagery and videos of the fires.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/05/us/california-wildfires-latest/index.html

Scary stuff.
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