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| Dear Obama: We just repealed your Obama Care Mandate; You lying, rip off- shister | |
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| BuckFan | Dec 20 2017, 11:25 PM Post #21 |
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There are almost 400 million people in the US. Most are covered by their employer insurance. So how are "100's of Millions of people now more responsible"? But 100's of millions will be paying more for their insurance as markets become more unstable, more people lose their insurance and the rest of us end up paying. Oh, and that money those corporations just got in tax cuts? They can put some of that to use paying for the higher insurance premiums that will result from the moves of the Republicans. |
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| nNeo | Dec 20 2017, 11:30 PM Post #22 |
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"Welfare" -- low income entitlement spending -- as a percentage of GDP (or relative to population) has been falling since 2011. It's now below the 40 year average. Obama took office at the peak of a recession. Social spending as a whole has been going up because baby boomers are retiring en masse, and because health care costs and insurance rates have been rising faster than other expenses, also faster than GDP growth and wages. That's been a trend for at least two decades. Insurance company profits are record high. Coincidence? Edited by nNeo, Dec 20 2017, 11:41 PM.
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| “Strong people don’t need strong leaders.” | |
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| Harambe4Trump | Dec 20 2017, 11:34 PM Post #23 |
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More winning. |
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Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary. #MAGA #wallsnotwars | |
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| Drudge X | Dec 21 2017, 01:51 AM Post #24 |
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Obama bankrupted the middle class. Trump is giving the middle class something to celebrate. |
| Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind. | |
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| nNeo | Dec 21 2017, 02:29 AM Post #25 |
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Citation needed. How did he do this? (hint: he didn't) |
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| peewee | Dec 21 2017, 02:30 AM Post #26 |
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I'm not concerned about 13 million people that I do no know, no do they care about me except for that I am paying for their give a way checks each month. They survived somehow before the ACA they can figure it out again. |
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| nNeo | Dec 21 2017, 02:31 AM Post #27 |
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Only the ones gullible enough to believe him. What's Kato's term? "Grubers"? Yeah, that's it. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/12/20/trump-just-admitted-the-gops-tax-cuts-were-deceptively-sold/ |
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| nNeo | Dec 21 2017, 02:35 AM Post #28 |
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It's great to hear you don't give a damn about other people. I wish more folks would come right out and admit it. It appears to be the essence of the new right -- "sod everyone who isn't me". Refreshing honesty there. But the bit you are overlooking is that with the mandate gone, the pools skew to sicker people, which drives prices up for everyone, even you. Edited by nNeo, Dec 21 2017, 02:52 AM.
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| Robert Stout | Dec 21 2017, 07:07 AM Post #29 |
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Liberals bend over for pet hamsters if they really care............
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| Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid | |
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| Drudge X | Dec 21 2017, 10:01 AM Post #30 |
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Is this the same WaPo doing what they can to skew the election for Jones? |
| Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind. | |
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| Alt Right PEPE | Dec 21 2017, 10:04 AM Post #31 |
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Obamacare was a tax. He taxed the middle class to pay for the very poor, simple |
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"Be polite, be friendly. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet." Gen Mattis | |
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| Drudge X | Dec 21 2017, 10:11 AM Post #32 |
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He didn't do a damn thing to lift Blacks out of poverty in fact putting more in the unemployment line and food stamp. What makes you think he can stabilize the middle class? Obama is right now thinking if he could only do what Trump has been doing in less than a year by restoring confidence to the American economy. Obama can only dream. Trump is doing one heck of a job at turning Obama into an irrelevant figure to the American people. http://www.aei.org/spotlight/the-obama-economy-perry/ |
| Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind. | |
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| Tsalagi | Dec 21 2017, 10:27 AM Post #33 |
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Is that so...because the majority of the American people didn't vote for him? As for food stamps more whites use them then blacks. |
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| dcbl | Dec 21 2017, 10:29 AM Post #34 |
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economy is about to rev into high gear more people with jobs more people with raises odds are, this just sealed Trump's re-election in 2020 |
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Republicans sign checks on the front, democrats sign them on the back…True story! | |
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| Robertr2000 | Dec 21 2017, 11:20 AM Post #35 |
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It's time to deal baby. Are you going to get with it? |
| "if that **** wins we'll all hang from nooses" | |
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| Robertr2000 | Dec 21 2017, 11:22 AM Post #36 |
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Less Government equals more personal responsibility. Maybe you should try it. Edited by Robertr2000, Dec 21 2017, 11:22 AM.
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| "if that **** wins we'll all hang from nooses" | |
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| nNeo | Dec 21 2017, 12:55 PM Post #37 |
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Food stamp spending more than doubled under Bush 43 budgets. It continued to rise during the first few years of Obama's administration because he took office at the peak of a recession. It fell during his second term. Employment has been improving for 7 years running. Trump has made little difference. |
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| PATruth | Dec 21 2017, 01:03 PM Post #38 |
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This was a mercy killing, watching ObamaCare die a slow miserable death was too painful. Don't feel bad, ObamaCare was really nothing more than a huge Medicaid expansion and hundreds of billions of dollars of corporate welfare earmarked to the big evil insurance companies. Health insurance you can't afford to use really isn't insurance now is it? All you have left is Obama tried, he failed miserably but he did try.. |
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"No. No he won't. We'll stop it." | |
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| nNeo | Dec 21 2017, 01:08 PM Post #39 |
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False. A typical working class (lower middle income) family paid $90 less net annual federal tax under post-ACA Obama policy. A typical upper middle class family paid about $140 more. De minimis. That certainly didn't bankrupt anyone. See CBO & Tax Policy Center publications, and “Implications of Partial Repeal of the ACA through Reconciliation" Blumberg, Buettgens, Holahan, 2016 for more details on that if you want it. "The Poor" got very little different than they had under previous administrations, with the exception of health care. Their health care over time would cost less under a functioning ACA than it would via the previous mess of emergency rooms and state aid agencies. A national system would be more efficient of course. If you need a citation, look at cost/benefits for pretty much any other first world country. |
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| nNeo | Dec 21 2017, 01:10 PM Post #40 |
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Your insurance rates are still going to increase. What insurance do you suggest for the millions of people now covered by the ACA if it ends? |
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