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Dear Obama: We just repealed your Obama Care Mandate; You lying, rip off- shister
Topic Started: Dec 20 2017, 06:49 PM (778 Views)
Robertr2000
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nNeo
Dec 21 2017, 01:10 PM
PATruth
Dec 21 2017, 01:03 PM
ObamaCare was really nothing more than a huge Medicaid expansion and hundreds of billions of dollars of corporate welfare earmarked to the big evil insurance companies.
Your insurance rates are still going to increase.

What insurance do you suggest for the millions of people now covered by the ACA if it ends?
Your insurance rates are still going to increase.
What do you call every year under ObamaCare? Dramatic Increase?

"What insurance do you suggest for the millions of people now covered by the ACA if it ends?"
Don't care. What did they do before ObamaCare? They'll be fine.
"if that **** wins we'll all hang from nooses"
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Tsalagi
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Harambe4Trump
Dec 21 2017, 09:47 PM
Tsalagi
Dec 21 2017, 09:44 PM
Harambe4Trump
Dec 21 2017, 09:43 PM
^Thats a lie and you know it.
Suck it up buttercup, it's not a lie.
https://www.nap.edu/read/9719/chapter/8#158

Next you’ll go back to the same debunked myth that most serial killers are whites.

Google next time before you reveal yourself a fool
For the record..I reviewed your link..it's still going off on a percentage of the population, me, I want actual numbers..but, the link I sent you on serial killers was not debunked...
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Tsalagi
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Robertr2000
Dec 21 2017, 09:51 PM
nNeo
Dec 21 2017, 01:10 PM
PATruth
Dec 21 2017, 01:03 PM
ObamaCare was really nothing more than a huge Medicaid expansion and hundreds of billions of dollars of corporate welfare earmarked to the big evil insurance companies.
Your insurance rates are still going to increase.

What insurance do you suggest for the millions of people now covered by the ACA if it ends?
Your insurance rates are still going to increase.
What do you call every year under ObamaCare? Dramatic Increase?

"What insurance do you suggest for the millions of people now covered by the ACA if it ends?"
Don't care. What did they do before ObamaCare? They'll be fine.
<----- don't care...how we view the lesser of our society is telling of our national character, they also weren't fine....my hospital was filled constantly with those using my ER for their healthcare, in one site, they ran thru their charity care in one month for the whole year funding.
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Harambe4Trump
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Tsalagi
Dec 21 2017, 09:57 PM
Harambe4Trump
Dec 21 2017, 09:47 PM
Tsalagi
Dec 21 2017, 09:44 PM
Harambe4Trump
Dec 21 2017, 09:43 PM
^Thats a lie and you know it.
Suck it up buttercup, it's not a lie.
https://www.nap.edu/read/9719/chapter/8#158

Next you’ll go back to the same debunked myth that most serial killers are whites.

Google next time before you reveal yourself a fool
For the record..I reviewed your link..it's still going off on a percentage of the population, me, I want actual numbers..but, the link I sent you on serial killers was not debunked...
You never sent such a link.

Per Capita trumps, and you know it.

I’m sorry facts get in your way
Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary.
#MAGA
#wallsnotwars
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nNeo

Robertr2000
Dec 21 2017, 09:51 PM
What do you call every year under ObamaCare? Dramatic Increase?
The ACA had very little effect on rates. They have been rising at a fairly constant pace for 20 years.

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The problem is not "Obamacare". It's that our healthcare system is inefficient, drug manufacturers, insurance companies, and some other service providers are price gouging. Costs are increasing faster than wages and general inflation.

Edited by nNeo, Dec 21 2017, 10:02 PM.
“Strong people don’t need strong leaders.”
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peewee

nNeo
Dec 21 2017, 09:34 PM
peewee
Dec 21 2017, 07:25 PM
quite the job they have and go to work for a company that has a health care plan and a 401K
The only relevant bit in your response. I assume you meant "quit". Please take a few moments to reflect on that, and what it says about who really rules the USA.
Has nothing to do with "who" rules and more to do with having the motivation to strive to move on up. The Jeffersons taught all of us that lesson.

Fish don't fry in the kitchen;
Beans don't burn on the grill.
Took a whole lotta tryin'
Just to get up that hill.
Now we're up in the big leagues
Gettin' our turn at bat.
As long as we live, it's you and me baby
There ain't nothin wrong with that.

Takes a whole lotta tryin', Homer.
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peewee

Robertr2000
Dec 21 2017, 09:51 PM
nNeo
Dec 21 2017, 01:10 PM
PATruth
Dec 21 2017, 01:03 PM
ObamaCare was really nothing more than a huge Medicaid expansion and hundreds of billions of dollars of corporate welfare earmarked to the big evil insurance companies.
Your insurance rates are still going to increase.

What insurance do you suggest for the millions of people now covered by the ACA if it ends?
Your insurance rates are still going to increase.
What do you call every year under ObamaCare? Dramatic Increase?

"What insurance do you suggest for the millions of people now covered by the ACA if it ends?"
Don't care. What did they do before ObamaCare? They'll be fine.
The question is, what did they do between 1776 and ACA? I do know and expect from my car insurance to increase always too.
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Robertr2000
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nNeo
Dec 21 2017, 10:00 PM
Robertr2000
Dec 21 2017, 09:51 PM
What do you call every year under ObamaCare? Dramatic Increase?
The ACA had very little effect on rates. They have been rising at a fairly constant pace for 20 years.

Posted Image

The problem is not "Obamacare". It's that our healthcare system is inefficient, drug manufacturers, insurance companies, and some other service providers are price gouging. Costs are increasing faster than wages and general inflation.

Get government out. That is the problem.


The government should not be in healthcare. Period.
"if that **** wins we'll all hang from nooses"
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Tsalagi
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Harambe4Trump
Dec 21 2017, 10:00 PM
Tsalagi
Dec 21 2017, 09:57 PM
Harambe4Trump
Dec 21 2017, 09:47 PM
Tsalagi
Dec 21 2017, 09:44 PM
Harambe4Trump
Dec 21 2017, 09:43 PM
^Thats a lie and you know it.
Suck it up buttercup, it's not a lie.
https://www.nap.edu/read/9719/chapter/8#158

Next you’ll go back to the same debunked myth that most serial killers are whites.

Google next time before you reveal yourself a fool
For the record..I reviewed your link..it's still going off on a percentage of the population, me, I want actual numbers..but, the link I sent you on serial killers was not debunked...
You never sent such a link.

Per Capita trumps, and you know it.

I’m sorry facts get in your way
No...actual numbers of recipients trumps...sorry if those facts don't fit your narrative.
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nNeo

peewee
Dec 21 2017, 10:03 PM
Has nothing to do with "who" rules and more to do with having the motivation to strive to move on up.
Bull. It has to do with large corporations being able (prior to the ACA) to get better rates than individuals or small businesses. That's not accidental. The system was designed in the Nixon era to maintain the power of the elite. "Work for us if you want to live".

Reread your own quote. You see, yet don't see.
“Strong people don’t need strong leaders.”
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peewee

Tsalagi
Dec 21 2017, 09:59 PM
Robertr2000
Dec 21 2017, 09:51 PM
nNeo
Dec 21 2017, 01:10 PM
PATruth
Dec 21 2017, 01:03 PM
ObamaCare was really nothing more than a huge Medicaid expansion and hundreds of billions of dollars of corporate welfare earmarked to the big evil insurance companies.
Your insurance rates are still going to increase.

What insurance do you suggest for the millions of people now covered by the ACA if it ends?
Your insurance rates are still going to increase.
What do you call every year under ObamaCare? Dramatic Increase?

"What insurance do you suggest for the millions of people now covered by the ACA if it ends?"
Don't care. What did they do before ObamaCare? They'll be fine.
<----- don't care...how we view the lesser of our society is telling of our national character, they also weren't fine....my hospital was filled constantly with those using my ER for their healthcare, in one site, they ran thru their charity care in one month for the whole year funding.
A bigger problem as I see it is that because of our fine health care that our life spans have lengthened to the point that while our bodies are intact while our organs are failing which is placing about 60% of us in long term care facilities at about 5k to 7k per month. Medicaid will cover than after we cough up our SS contributions or self pay instead.
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nNeo

Robertr2000
Dec 21 2017, 10:10 PM
Get government out. That is the problem.
Then why is the private, for-profit system in the US less economically efficient than the government run systems used by most other developed counties? And where is the profit in our system coming from?

Your blind faith is not factually supportable.
“Strong people don’t need strong leaders.”
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nNeo

Tsalagi
Dec 21 2017, 10:11 PM
No...actual numbers of recipients trumps...sorry if those facts don't fit your narrative.
Speaking of actual numbers:

7.4m whites
2.6m blacks
4.0m hispanic

https://aspe.hhs.gov/basic-report/health-insurance-coverage-and-affordable-care-act-september-2015

Edited by nNeo, Dec 21 2017, 10:17 PM.
“Strong people don’t need strong leaders.”
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The Inquisitor
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Like every Government run welfare system....It's the freeloaders that get on board that rob the real 100% deserving people of benefits....
Warning....Leftist's Post Here....Take Precautions
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Robertr2000
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nNeo
Dec 21 2017, 10:14 PM
Robertr2000
Dec 21 2017, 10:10 PM
Get government out. That is the problem.
Then why is the private, for-profit system in the US less economically efficient than the government run systems used by most other developed counties? And where is the profit in our system coming from?

Your blind faith is not factually supportable.
News flash for ya. The Government does run this system.

Open up the free market.
"if that **** wins we'll all hang from nooses"
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Robertr2000
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Tsalagi
Dec 21 2017, 09:59 PM
Robertr2000
Dec 21 2017, 09:51 PM
nNeo
Dec 21 2017, 01:10 PM
PATruth
Dec 21 2017, 01:03 PM
ObamaCare was really nothing more than a huge Medicaid expansion and hundreds of billions of dollars of corporate welfare earmarked to the big evil insurance companies.
Your insurance rates are still going to increase.

What insurance do you suggest for the millions of people now covered by the ACA if it ends?
Your insurance rates are still going to increase.
What do you call every year under ObamaCare? Dramatic Increase?

"What insurance do you suggest for the millions of people now covered by the ACA if it ends?"
Don't care. What did they do before ObamaCare? They'll be fine.
<----- don't care...how we view the lesser of our society is telling of our national character, they also weren't fine....my hospital was filled constantly with those using my ER for their healthcare, in one site, they ran thru their charity care in one month for the whole year funding.
I'm not a socialist.
"if that **** wins we'll all hang from nooses"
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nNeo

The Inquisitor
Dec 21 2017, 10:16 PM
Like every Government run welfare system....It's the freeloaders that get on board that rob the real 100% deserving people of benefits....
A problem best addressed through better screening and enforcement, not by giving up. That's a bit like saying "we shouldn't have banks, because someone might rob them".

Most independent estimates put waste and fraud in the 2-3% range. Not good, but far from crippling to the programs.
“Strong people don’t need strong leaders.”
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Tsalagi
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Robertr2000
Dec 21 2017, 10:19 PM
Tsalagi
Dec 21 2017, 09:59 PM
Robertr2000
Dec 21 2017, 09:51 PM
nNeo
Dec 21 2017, 01:10 PM
PATruth
Dec 21 2017, 01:03 PM
ObamaCare was really nothing more than a huge Medicaid expansion and hundreds of billions of dollars of corporate welfare earmarked to the big evil insurance companies.
Your insurance rates are still going to increase.

What insurance do you suggest for the millions of people now covered by the ACA if it ends?
Your insurance rates are still going to increase.
What do you call every year under ObamaCare? Dramatic Increase?

"What insurance do you suggest for the millions of people now covered by the ACA if it ends?"
Don't care. What did they do before ObamaCare? They'll be fine.
<----- don't care...how we view the lesser of our society is telling of our national character, they also weren't fine....my hospital was filled constantly with those using my ER for their healthcare, in one site, they ran thru their charity care in one month for the whole year funding.
I'm not a socialist.
The ACA wasn't a socialist program...and our country has socialist healthcare programs already in place...the US military and their dependents being a huge beneficiary.
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nNeo

Robertr2000
Dec 21 2017, 10:18 PM
News flash for ya. The Government does run this system.
You're confused, as usual. We have some government regulation, but insurance companies, doctors, hospitals, drug manufacturers, nurses, etc are private, for-profit for the most part.

What would "free market" mean in this context?
“Strong people don’t need strong leaders.”
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Robertr2000
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nNeo
Dec 21 2017, 10:21 PM
Robertr2000
Dec 21 2017, 10:18 PM
News flash for ya. The Government does run this system.
You're confused, as usual. We have some government regulation, but insurance companies, doctors, hospitals, drug manufacturers, nurses, etc are private, for-profit for the most part.

What would "free market" mean in this context?
Ya genus. Who do you think wrote ObamaCare?

:tongue:
"if that **** wins we'll all hang from nooses"
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