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| Mistrial Declared In Bundy Case Over Withheld Evidence; President Trump Needs To Fire Up The Pardon Pen | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Dec 20 2017, 10:29 PM (363 Views) | |
| Dr. B | Dec 20 2017, 10:29 PM Post #1 |
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This was misjustice if ever there was misjustice, what Obama has done. They steal land and retroactively apply taxes. Feudalism plain and simple, where leftists own all the land and we have to rent it. And now we learn the government lied about the FBI’s involvement. Those were truly dark times, when Obama was in charge. But now there is a chance justice could prevail. https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-investigations/2017/12/20/cliven-bundy-nevada-ranch-cattle-grazing-blm-standoff-trial/965402001/ |
| #BringWilmyBack | |
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| Robert Stout | Dec 20 2017, 11:21 PM Post #2 |
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The FBI is Deep State, prone to corrupt practices...............
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| Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid | |
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| RaiderNation | Dec 21 2017, 06:56 AM Post #3 |
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1) no land was 'stolen' 2) no taxes were levied on the land no one stole 3)Bundy chose to use the land knowing there was a cost involved. He used it and refused to pay. He's a deadbeat. What else ya got? |
| Will Munny: "Deserve's got nothin' to do with it..." | |
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| Drudge X | Dec 21 2017, 10:18 AM Post #4 |
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Wilmy once again gave an abusive act by the Obama administration a free pass. The BLM were going at it with landowners for years. They decided to take matter in their own hands and was shocked by the level of resistance. |
| Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind. | |
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| Tsalagi | Dec 21 2017, 10:25 AM Post #5 |
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Pssstt....it wasn't Bundy's land he grazed on ,and the thought of white man crying bout stealing land is the kinda of irony I never get tired of laughing bout. The land his ranch sits on is Paiute land. |
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| RaiderNation | Dec 21 2017, 02:05 PM Post #6 |
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If so, Bundy was not the only right wing scumbag trying to get over on the rest of us by grazing for free. |
| Will Munny: "Deserve's got nothin' to do with it..." | |
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| Drudge X | Dec 21 2017, 02:33 PM Post #7 |
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You got nothing but parroting of some left wing mouthpiece. Your version isn't exactly what happened. Do a search. |
| Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind. | |
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| Drudge X | Dec 21 2017, 02:35 PM Post #8 |
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Why not go further and say the US is illegal. This is Indian nation. The US does not exist. Edited by Drudge X, Dec 21 2017, 02:35 PM.
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| Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind. | |
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| BuckFan | Dec 21 2017, 02:47 PM Post #9 |
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Did do a search, did do the reading, how about you? What land was stolen? It was federal land which we all own and Bundy wanted to use my (our) land without paying for it. |
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| Drudge X | Dec 21 2017, 03:35 PM Post #10 |
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Nope. As a leftist you should be outrage when the government starts seizing land from owners. |
| Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind. | |
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| ringotuna | Dec 21 2017, 04:41 PM Post #11 |
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That's some pretty piss poor prosecutin if you ask me. Standard 3-1.2 Functions and Duties of the Prosecutor (a) The prosecutor is an administrator of justice, a zealous advocate, and an officer of the court. The prosecutor’s office should exercise sound discretion and independent judgment in the performance of the prosecution function. (b) The primary duty of the prosecutor is to seek justice within the bounds of the law, not merely to convict. The prosecutor serves the public interest and should act with integrity and balanced judgment to increase public safety both by pursuing appropriate criminal charges of appropriate severity, and by exercising discretion to not pursue criminal charges in appropriate circumstances. The prosecutor should seek to protect the innocent and convict the guilty, consider the interests of victims and witnesses, and respect the constitutional and legal rights of all persons, including suspects and defendants. (c) The prosecutor should know and abide by the standards of professional conduct as expressed in applicable law and ethical codes and opinions in the applicable jurisdiction. The prosecutor should avoid an appearance of impropriety in performing the prosecution function. A prosecutor should seek out, and the prosecutor’s office should provide, supervisory advice and ethical guidance when the proper course of prosecutorial conduct seems unclear. A prosecutor who disagrees with a governing ethical rule should seek its change if appropriate, and directly challenge it if necessary, but should comply with it unless relieved by court order. (d) The prosecutor should make use of ethical guidance offered by existing organizations, and should seek to establish and make use of an ethics advisory group akin to that described in Defense Function Standard 4-1.11. (e) The prosecutor should be knowledgeable about, consider, and where appropriate develop or assist in developing alternatives to prosecution or conviction that may be applicable in individual cases or classes of cases. The prosecutor’s office should be available to assist community efforts addressing problems that lead to, or result from, criminal activity or perceived flaws in the criminal justice system. (f) The prosecutor is not merely a case-processor but also a problem-solver responsible for considering broad goals of the criminal justice system. The prosecutor should seek to reform and improve the administration of criminal justice, and when inadequacies or injustices in the substantive or procedural law come to the prosecutor's attention, the prosecutor should stimulate and support efforts for remedial action. The prosecutor should provide service to the community, including involvement in public service and Bar activities, public education, community service activities, and Bar leadership positions. A prosecutorial office should support such activities, and the office’s budget should include funding and paid release time for such activities. https://www.americanbar.org/groups/criminal_justice/standards/ProsecutionFunctionFourthEdition.html Edited by ringotuna, Dec 21 2017, 04:45 PM.
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| Alt Right PEPE | Dec 21 2017, 04:57 PM Post #12 |
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"Be polite, be friendly. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet." Gen Mattis | |
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| Tsalagi | Dec 21 2017, 05:00 PM Post #13 |
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I wasn't going there...I just thought it was humorous for Bundy to cry bout stealing land when his very ranch sits on Paiute soil. |
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| RaiderNation | Dec 21 2017, 08:09 PM Post #14 |
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No land was seized, genius. |
| Will Munny: "Deserve's got nothin' to do with it..." | |
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| Tsalagi | Dec 21 2017, 08:45 PM Post #15 |
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Drudge...let me recant for you the status of the land in question so as to enable you to stop spewing wrong rhetoric..... The original holder were the Paiute...the land lost in battle and obtained by thru the US Army, holdership went to the US Federal Government. The land leased thru the Bureau of Land Management for grazing fees. Bundy ranch defaults on paying for said fees. The land in question was never the private property of Bundy of the State. Now...are there any questions as to how this information has been relayed to you. If you wish to spout rhetoric to the Left...please do so with the right information now at your disposal. Thank you for your understanding. |
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| Robertr2000 | Dec 21 2017, 09:59 PM Post #16 |
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| "if that **** wins we'll all hang from nooses" | |
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| Tsalagi | Dec 21 2017, 10:07 PM Post #17 |
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What was disputable...was he using federal land to graze his cattle...yes...did he pay his fees...no...was there a question of this? |
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| Drudge X | Dec 21 2017, 10:35 PM Post #18 |
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Not as clear cut as you wanted to be. BLM decided they no longer wanted to honor the agreement with the ranchers just because BLM wanted to expand the protected area. Ranchers refused to sell back to BLM their grazing privileges. BLM decided to go it alone and canceled the contract. That's what started the escalation. Now, why do you think the government purposely withholding evidence when the judge ordered them to turn the evidence over before the deadline. There's a lot more s*** the BLM isn't telling you or me. It would be nice to prove that you are not a leftist. |
| Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind. | |
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| grannyhawkins | Dec 21 2017, 10:57 PM Post #19 |
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I say that big talk's worth doodly-squat
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Uranium 1, the pantsuit and rooskies!!! Lawd you librawls are naive!!!! |
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| Dr. B | Dec 21 2017, 11:06 PM Post #20 |
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Why doesn’t Tsal complain about America stealing Indian land in these threads about police killing Blacks? Why does he only bring it up when whites get victimized? |
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