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Topic Started: Jan 6 2018, 01:49 AM (402 Views)
Mr. Tik
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You may be a conservative republican..if you are pro life until you get your mistress knocked up
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Coast2coast

Yep!


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ringotuna
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Adolph Hipster
Jan 6 2018, 01:49 AM
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You don't see it...do ya? :oyvey
Ringoism: Never underestimate the advantages of being underestimated.
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estonianman
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Pretty much irrelevant unless you know what kind of jobs are created.
Edited by estonianman, Jan 6 2018, 05:34 PM.
Communism sounds good on paper unless you are reading a history book
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ringotuna
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Tik? ... ya there lil buddy? :biggrin:
Edited by ringotuna, Jan 7 2018, 04:54 AM.
Ringoism: Never underestimate the advantages of being underestimated.
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PATruth
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So Obama left office with a stagnant economy, another failing liberal program and a declining job market? Obama's economic policy was twofold, welfare is the best economic stimulus and MASSIVE deficit spending. The Trump effect began the day after he was elected, optimism is back, a pro-business administration is back, the market has gained 6 trillion in market cap and hundreds of billions of dollars are returning to the US. Even Mr. Tiki should be able to see the difference.
Edited by PATruth, Jan 7 2018, 11:24 AM.
Texas Produces Double The Renewable Power As California At Almost Half The Price
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Mr. Tik
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ringotuna
Jan 6 2018, 09:00 AM
Adolph Hipster
Jan 6 2018, 01:49 AM
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You don't see it...do ya? :oyvey
see what?
You may be a conservative republican..if you are pro life until you get your mistress knocked up
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I say that big talk's worth doodly-squat
Yew are a jeanyus with with a pink german helmet ta match yur intyleck
Endeavor to Persevere!!!
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Jan 7 2018, 11:49 AM
ringotuna
Jan 6 2018, 09:00 AM
Adolph Hipster
Jan 6 2018, 01:49 AM
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You don't see it...do ya? :oyvey
see what?
Ok, let's discuss...First of all, let me ask what point you are trying to make with this graphic?
Ringoism: Never underestimate the advantages of being underestimated.
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nNeo

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Jan 7 2018, 11:23 AM
So Obama left office with a stagnant economy, another failing liberal program and a declining job market?
Literally the opposite of what actually happened. Look at the numbers. 2017 had the lowest job growth since 2010.
"You’ll have a lot of collateral damage.”
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It's called McJobs.
Cancel your cable television subscription and stop supporting the leftist leaning propaganda.
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ringotuna
Jan 7 2018, 02:39 PM
Adolph Hipster
Jan 7 2018, 11:49 AM
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Adolph Hipster
Jan 6 2018, 01:49 AM
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You don't see it...do ya? :oyvey
see what?
Ok, let's discuss...First of all, let me ask what point you are trying to make with this graphic?
This will be fun to watch....Attempting to have a logical debate with Tik.... :lol:
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ringotuna
Jan 7 2018, 02:39 PM
Adolph Hipster
Jan 7 2018, 11:49 AM
ringotuna
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Adolph Hipster
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[twitter=FoxNewsResearch/status/949277919779663873?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rawstory.com%2F2018%2F01%2Finternet-mocks-fox-news-after-its-forced-to-admit-job-growth-was-stronger-under-obama-than-trump%2F]
You don't see it...do ya? :oyvey
see what?
Ok, let's discuss...First of all, let me ask what point you are trying to make with this graphic?
Don't be coy..just come out with it.
You may be a conservative republican..if you are pro life until you get your mistress knocked up
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Adolph Hipster
Jan 7 2018, 07:54 PM
ringotuna
Jan 7 2018, 02:39 PM
Adolph Hipster
Jan 7 2018, 11:49 AM
ringotuna
Jan 6 2018, 09:00 AM
Adolph Hipster
Jan 6 2018, 01:49 AM
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You don't see it...do ya? :oyvey
see what?
Ok, let's discuss...First of all, let me ask what point you are trying to make with this graphic?
Don't be coy..just come out with it.
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Jan 7 2018, 03:58 PM
This will be fun to watch....Attempting to have a logical debate with Tik.... :lol:
When you and I debate..you resort to chicken jokes when you cannot counter. :oyvey

You may be a conservative republican..if you are pro life until you get your mistress knocked up
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Adolph Hipster
Jan 7 2018, 07:57 PM
The Inquisitor
Jan 7 2018, 03:58 PM
This will be fun to watch....Attempting to have a logical debate with Tik.... :lol:
When you and I debate..you resort to chicken jokes when you cannot counter. :oyvey

:wah: :wah:
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Jan 7 2018, 07:54 PM
ringotuna
Jan 7 2018, 02:39 PM
Adolph Hipster
Jan 7 2018, 11:49 AM
ringotuna
Jan 6 2018, 09:00 AM
Adolph Hipster
Jan 6 2018, 01:49 AM
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You don't see it...do ya? :oyvey
see what?
Ok, let's discuss...First of all, let me ask what point you are trying to make with this graphic?
Don't be coy..just come out with it.
I understand your trepidation. You'll probably need that wiggle room later in the discussion when you try to yabbutt your way out of this lesson. But since you're insistent on being timid, I'll go ahead and give you a primer on how to read data. We'll just presume that you're looking at it in a limited bilaterally capacity (Obama v. Trump). There are several reasons why that's just plain silly.
First, I don't know why the twitter author left out the Obama administrations first year. I have a theory. See (1.) below... but they did, so we'll work with what we've got. What you're looking at, if you were to graph the data... is an 8 year bell curve. (2010 - 2017) Take note of the quite impressive steady job gains up through 2014 where Obama's numbers peaked at 250,000. Then begins, for reasons I'll explain later (2.) a sharp decline in jobs growth until the trend was slowed in 2017.

2014: 250,000/month
2014-15; -24,000
2015-16; -39,000
2016-17; -16,000
2017; 171,000/month
A graphic representation of the data will more clearly show you how the downward trend in jobs growth from 2014 to 2016 was significantly slowed the southbound trend in 2017.
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(1.) It's possible that the 2009 data were in the negative numbers, as a continuation of the Bush recession, and the twitter author chose rightfully not to accredit Obama with the low performance during the transition period. It's curious however that he did quite the opposite in 2017 during the Obama > Trump transition. He seem somewhat inconsistent in his methods of observation.
(2.) Think of it as reaching near critical mass, where the numbers are inching toward what they call 'full employment'. As we reach that point, the last few percentage points become more difficult to gain. Or another analogy... the last mile of the marathon is the most difficult. In my profession I see this on a regular basis. It's very easy to get from 1 to 9, but getting from 9 to 10 is a b!tch.
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ringotuna
Jan 8 2018, 02:35 AM
Think of it as reaching near critical mass, where the numbers are inching toward what they call 'full employment'.
I don't think you are disproving 'Tik's central point, though I appreciate and generally agree with your assessment. What is most significant is that employment crashed after the recession, but had largely recovered before Trump took office. I don't expect miracles from Trump, but some of his supporters do, or are crediting him unduly for "turning around" an economy that's actually been on an upward trend for some years.
"You’ll have a lot of collateral damage.”
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nNeo
Jan 8 2018, 11:47 AM
ringotuna
Jan 8 2018, 02:35 AM
Think of it as reaching near critical mass, where the numbers are inching toward what they call 'full employment'.
I don't think you are disproving 'Tik's central point, though I appreciate and generally agree with your assessment. What is most significant is that employment crashed after the recession, but had largely recovered before Trump took office. I don't expect miracles from Trump, but some of his supporters do, or are crediting him unduly for "turning around" an economy that's actually been on an upward trend for some years.
So, in other words, as usual, the truth is somewhere between the two extreme views.

Will Munny: "Deserve's got nothin' to do with it..."
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nNeo
Jan 8 2018, 11:47 AM
ringotuna
Jan 8 2018, 02:35 AM
Think of it as reaching near critical mass, where the numbers are inching toward what they call 'full employment'.
I don't think you are disproving 'Tik's central point, though I appreciate and generally agree with your assessment. What is most significant is that employment crashed after the recession, but had largely recovered before Trump took office. I don't expect miracles from Trump, but some of his supporters do, or are crediting him unduly for "turning around" an economy that's actually been on an upward trend for some years.
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You were spared by Thanos.
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