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| Dozens of Russian athletes’ Games fates in limbo as decision on Olympics appeals adjourned | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Feb 7 2018, 11:35 AM (595 Views) | |
| Siberian | Feb 7 2018, 11:35 AM Post #1 |
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Two groups of prominent Russian athletes seeking late entry for the PyeongChang Olympics have had their appeals adjourned. Decisions on their participation will now be made on the eve of the opening ceremony at the earliest. https://www.rt.com/sport/418101-cas-russian-olympic-appeal/ |
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| Siberian | Feb 7 2018, 11:37 AM Post #2 |
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The West thinks that lawlessly preventing participation of Russian athletes in Olympic games it can achive anything at all except more consolidation of Russians against the West
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| Alt Right PEPE | Feb 7 2018, 11:45 AM Post #3 |
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The Red Chinese are not in the same category? Why? |
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"Be polite, be friendly. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet." Gen Mattis | |
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| jake58 | Feb 7 2018, 11:46 AM Post #4 |
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break the rules, you don't get to play... too bad, so sad... it could be worse, they could get the Nemtsov treatment |
| That which can be asserted without evidence; can be dismissed without evidence- Christopher Hitchens | |
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| Drudge X | Feb 7 2018, 11:54 AM Post #5 |
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The IOC should review all the medals won by Russia in the past. There are more than one skeletons in Putin's closet. |
| Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind. | |
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| Siberian | Feb 7 2018, 12:04 PM Post #6 |
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Jake, read the article, IOC banned athletes which had not been guilty of anything at all. It just took the list of Russian athletes and banned all the strongest ones ![]() Whatever a Russophobe you are you must understand that without Russia Olympic games is not a competition. Because the sports is a peaceful kind of war. It's like a war against Russia without Russians ![]() a false victory, the West can claim it a million times, but it will not be true
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| jake58 | Feb 7 2018, 12:17 PM Post #7 |
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Yeah, I'm not going to waste my time with the Putin News Network... a systematic state sponsored doping program in Russia was uncovered thanks mainly to the efforts of Russians... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doping_in_Russia ... you live in a country ruled by scumbags, zombie |
| That which can be asserted without evidence; can be dismissed without evidence- Christopher Hitchens | |
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| Siberian | Feb 7 2018, 01:04 PM Post #8 |
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Russians - you mean a defector Rodchenkov who according to his own words was paid with a flat and a car for his "testimony" , the man who was a patient in a psichiatric clinic and a suspect as a drug dealer in investigation in Russia? ![]() Jake, I am not going to start with you a lengthy discussion in which you will inevitably loose, as it has always been. My mission is accomplished not with a formal victory but in the moment you yourself understand you lost, understand how pathetic and inferior you are.I think in this case it was even before you posted something here... ![]() I appreciate your courage to post anything at all in Russia related topics, even if you avoid talking business. I thought you have lost your appetite for exposing yourself as a fool, but you seem to still have some dry gunpowder in stock...
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| jake58 | Feb 7 2018, 04:49 PM Post #9 |
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You clever Ivan... you want to avoid talking about the virtual mountain of evidence that Russia had a state sponsored doping program for decades to try and focus on impugning one of the MANY Russian sources. Unfortunately for you, Rodchenko was the head of a Russian anti doping lab so he knew exactly what was going on and guess what???? He was appointed by... Russians. Yes, he fled Russia in fear for his life... he may not have wanted to end up like Sinyev and Kamaev(who was threatening to write a book about state sponsored doping in Russia), 2 former heads of RUSADA(anti doping agency) who mysteriously died in Feb 2016, possibly due to allergies to polonium. If you want to run away declaring victory without even providing the bare minimum rt version of evidence as you usually do, no one will be surprised. Whether anyone else in the world has doped to gain advantage is not the issue but rather that Russia requires its athletes to undergo doping as part of their employment. Currently, there is no actual anti doping protocol in Russia hence their disbarment, as they continue to refuse to make their athletes available for drug testing, keeping them in closed cities or simply refusing to allow them to be drug tested. You live in a country of liars and cheaters... you're a very apt illustration for the average Russian. |
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| Drudge X | Feb 7 2018, 05:44 PM Post #10 |
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Russians cheat and pirate anything they can but doping? Nosiree Bob.
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| Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind. | |
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| voted4reagan | Feb 7 2018, 07:29 PM Post #11 |
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Russia Cheated....They got Caught... They pay the penalty |
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Trump needs to focus more so on the male vote. He should have nationalized the Boy Scouts when they decided to admit girls. Harambe4Trump AKA "FASHY" | |
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| Siberian | Feb 8 2018, 01:54 AM Post #12 |
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lol, Jake, if you need to be told twice to get it - no problem, I will chew it down to you to make it easier to swallow. As an ignorant Anerican speaking the only language you may not be aware that Wiki is not the ultimate truth, it is as much a tool of propaganda and a battlefield of propagandas as Facebook or Twitter - and articles in different languages on the same subject too frequently are simply opposite to each other Quoting someone's Twitter is as relevant as quoting Wiki, maximum it may sometimes coinsude with truth, but not nesessarily and definitely must be verified. ![]() It's like with a list of "killed Russian journalist" which was many times posted by you, Mozart, Drudge and other russophobes and wich is an obvious fake as I many times demonstrated, describing case by case. So, you can a million times quote your propaganda - it is enough to have you understanding it's all fake we all know it's a fake and quoting another times it rather makes you look dumb than adds anything against Russia ![]() the same is with doping. 1) You know that US sports is on much havier doping programmes, it's just enough to look st Serena Williams, just there's state policy to legalize it. 2) As well you know that current case based on Rodchenkov is nothing but a part of Russiagate political campaign. Is as much a fake as Steele report - Rodchenkov is a mentally disabled person who makes no secret in his videoblog that he is payed bybthe US, that he has personal vendetta with Russian sports and that he was a client of psychiatric clinic, committed an attempt of suicide etc etc. There is just a political campaign, based no nothing and aiming to remove all strong Russian athletes from competition - " Last week, CAS cleared 28 Russian athletes and rescinded their lifetime bans imposed by the IOC, stating that the evidence against them was “insufficient” to determine any doping violation. The Russian Olympic Committee (ROC) immediately contacted the IOC, asking it to add 13 cleared athletes to the Olympic invitation list. However, the IOC-appointed Invitation Review Panel responsible for approving Russian applications denied the request..." if you don't trust RT you can verify it in other sourses ![]() there is an obvious illegitimate politicised anti-Russian witch hunt of IOC. a dirty play to provide maximum number of medals to the West , which legally abuses doping and on which IOC closes its eyes:) And - having rejected to read my sourses which I support my words with - you acknowledge your defeat in the discussion, your post-mortem self-justification is not nesessary
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| Siberian | Feb 8 2018, 04:53 AM Post #13 |
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I wonder will American team rent a cargo plane or a cargo ship to deliver their stocks of legally proscribed doping to Korea? ![]() http://perspectives.com/topic/10418076/1/ |
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| jake58 | Feb 8 2018, 11:36 AM Post #14 |
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1. False. Dopers that get caught breaking the rules in pro sports in the US get suspended and lose salary. That's a lot different than the Russian govt running a sustained doping program and paying people to take drugs. If you're a Russian athlete and you refuse to take the drugs, you don't get to compete. It's fascinating that the only athlete ever punished for doping by the Russian govt was a whistleblower. 2. False. Another of your tedious efforts to disparage the source. Rodchenko was the head of an anti doping lab, he was obviously competent enough to be made the head of the lab and he describes in Icarus, a documentary film about the Russian doping program how he developed and implemented his “micro-dosing” scheme: small, regular injections of a xxxxtail of drugs that the biological passport is not sensitive enough to detect.. What happened? Well, he knows where all the bodies are buried thus he must be discredited. And of course, Rodchenko wasn't the only source, see Stepanova and her husband(who also worked for a Russian anti doping lab). I already pointed out 2 heads of another Russian anti doping lab who mysteriously died within weeks of one another in Feb 2016 - one of them had contacted a US publisher about writing a book on Russian doping - last mistake he made. McLaren Report https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McLaren_Report https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/default/files/resources/files/mclaren_report_part_ii_2.pdf Oswald Commission https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oswald_Commission https://www.olympic.org/news/ioc-sanctions-11-russian-athletes-as-part-of-oswald-commission-findings Schmidt Commission https://stillmed.olympic.org/media/Document%20Library/OlympicOrg/IOC/Who-We-Are/Commissions/Disciplinary-Commission/IOC-DC-Schmid/IOC-Disciplinary-Commission-Schmid-Report.pdf fascinating reading... It's not really that some Russians dope. It's that the govt enables and requires them to do so. The history of lying and cheating and murdering by the leaders in your country is appalling. Do you want to talk about George Bild again? And how about that Buk that made its way from Russia to Eastern Ukraine and back? Take your defeat like a man Ivan, you should be used to it by now. |
| That which can be asserted without evidence; can be dismissed without evidence- Christopher Hitchens | |
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| Drudge X | Feb 8 2018, 11:40 AM Post #15 |
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Looks like the Olympics haven't changed one bit. Bribes are still ongoing. Nationalist type of judging or alliance kind of judging still ongoing. Cover-up is going strong. |
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| jake58 | Feb 8 2018, 12:01 PM Post #16 |
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Lamine Diack... The ethics committee of the IOC conducted a year long investigation into claims that Diack had received bribes from the bankrupt sports marketing company International Sport and Leisure (ISL). Diack had received three payments of $30,000 and 30,000 French francs in 1993. Diack had personally received the cash payments from ISL at a time when the company was in negotiations with the IAAF to sign a marketing contract. The IOC described Diack as having "placed himself in a conflict of interest situation". Diack claimed that he received the money from supporters after his house burned down. Diack was warned for his behaviour, with the fact that he was not a member of IOC at the time of the wrongdoing considered a mitigating factor. On 1 November 2015, Diack and several other top IAAF officials were arrested in France and are being investigated over allegations he took payments for deferring sanctions against Russian drugs cheats.The IOC provisionally suspended Diack on November 10, 2015 and he resigned on the following day. On 14 January 2016, Part 2 of the report of the World Anti-Doping Agency's Independent Commission investigation into doping, which includes examination of the criminal side of the inquiry, reported that with his influence, Lamine Diack was able to install one of his sons as an employee of the IAAF, contract another son as a consultant and contract a friend as Presidential legal adviser and that he thereby created a group which functioned "as an informal illegitimate governance structure outside the formal IAAF governance structure". The report goes on to say: "Lamine Diack was responsible for organizing and enabling the conspiracy and corruption that took place in the IAAF. He sanctioned and appears to have had personal knowledge of the fraud and the extortion of athletes carried out by the actions of the informal illegitimate governance structure he put in place." On 03 March 2017, Le Monde claimed Lamine Diack's son received US$ 1.5 millions from a Brazilian business man, Arthur Soares, three days before the election of Rio da Janeiro, Brazil, as organizor of 2016 summer Olympics, occurred on 2 October 2009. Jesus, this is disgusting... |
| That which can be asserted without evidence; can be dismissed without evidence- Christopher Hitchens | |
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| Siberian | Feb 8 2018, 12:38 PM Post #17 |
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1. Jake, talk to me, not to yourself. I say that there is a nation wide policy in the US to legalize doping. It's quite hard to violate the doping rules if they just legalize it....Most your athletes are semi-dead, need heavy treatment with various heavy doping just to live... I don't know how they also manage to win Olympic games at the same time, but such is the US and IOC approach not to question it.... and rather promote and defend it, I rememver not long ago Fancy bears reveaked nessages between WADA and IOC? or who was it, I don't remember exactly, have to check - and it was correspondence on admittabce of such doped (mostly Western) athletes to the games... No investigation followed, no revision if the rules, everybody is happy in the US doping laboratory, WADA and IOC to have Western athletes being raused on steroids... https://fancybear.net/ by the way, as I understand the last emails they made public concern McLarens personal engagenent in Olympic witchhunt against Russia.... What you say about state run doping program is a lie not supported with anything but a claim of a crazy defector and CIA mercenary, who in no way is an athlete and was under investigation as a suspect with his sister, which was found guilty (? have to check) as a drug dealer. Of course there is a fault of Russisn authorities which allowed such a man to resume his duties as a head of doping laboratory even after he was acquitted by the court, but it doesn't make Russian government guilty of his illegal activity if it happened. Generally - you are just repeating the lie put by the CIA or whoever hired Rodchenkov into his mouth. There is nothing at all except his nonsense. Edited by Siberian, Feb 8 2018, 12:41 PM.
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| Siberian | Feb 8 2018, 12:57 PM Post #18 |
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which ones 2 heads of laboratories were killed - link? I got interested myself, maybe I will even read McLaren report ![]() I heard funny things o that absence of sratches is the that damples were op by Rassians - according to CLaren ![]() While - I will post it later - Rodchenkov in his own videoblog, right by himself says he did not escape, nobody was hunting him, he quit and just moved to America, was penniless and finally was used by Americans, was paid with a flat and a car. If we see even single fact of such a dirty play and using a crazy defector - just like in doping - any other defectors are as much compromized. while so far I have not seen any fact, only allegations. If you read the report - give examples of something based on non-defector's words. Edited by Siberian, Feb 8 2018, 01:02 PM.
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| jake58 | Feb 8 2018, 05:00 PM Post #19 |
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Any chance you could stop babbling? Don't you live in Russia? Is there some reason why I need to explain to you what happens there? Two former directors of RUSADA die suddenly weeks apart in Feb 2016(one who had contacted a Western publisher about writing a book on Russian doping)... https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-doping-nikita-kamaev-planned-book-before-sudden-death/ Naturally, as with the journailsts and opposition political figures, you are unable to detect a pattern that anyone with the potential to embarrass the Putin regime seems to expire... and quite suddenly. You're a clown dude, and not a very good one. The McLaren Report, the Oswald Commission and Schmid Commission are available above(links) for your perusal. Perhaps you could confine yourself to explaining how these folks got the mountain of evidence which they collected - blood and urine tests of Russian athletes, tapes with corrupt Russian officials and doctors, descriptions of how FSB officers would exchange the tainted samples for clean urine, the lack of compliance by Russian officials... etc. etc. etc. You were even dumber than usual to bring this up. I only hope FIFA takes the World Cup away as well but they were obviously paid off too. |
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| Drudge X | Feb 8 2018, 05:31 PM Post #20 |
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I don't think Siberian believes the stuff he wrote. His nationalism is doing the writing.
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Jake, I am not going to start with you a lengthy discussion in which you will inevitably loose, as it has always been. My mission is accomplished not with a formal victory but in the moment you yourself understand you lost, understand how pathetic and inferior you are.
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