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The Myth of Human Progress and the Collapse of Complex Societies
Topic Started: Feb 12 2018, 11:43 AM (236 Views)
PATruth
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_g R_
Feb 12 2018, 06:18 PM
PATruth
Feb 12 2018, 06:08 PM
Free market countries are working hard cleaning up the environmental disasters left over from the failed socialist states like China and the old USSR. It will take a while, relax, capitalism will solve the problem.
The USA is sitting on its' a$$ making it worse with the largest polluter on the planet the US military, while China is cleaning up it's act - phasing out coal and nuclear and investing in solar, wind, high speed rail systems, large-scale hydroelectric plants and wind farms.
Yes the US government is the biggest polluter on the planet and China has a long way to go before they are even close to being as clean as the US. The problems associated with socialist economies will take decades to correct but again, relax, the free market is developing the next generation of clean energy. Hopefully the government won't ruin clean energy again.
"No. No he won't. We'll stop it."
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Mr. Tik
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PATruth
Feb 12 2018, 03:16 PM
Tribal people were NOT complex societies, in fact they were "tribal."
We are still tribal.
You may be a conservative republican..if you are pro life until you get your mistress knocked up
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Mr. Tik
Feb 12 2018, 06:53 PM
PATruth
Feb 12 2018, 03:16 PM
Tribal people were NOT complex societies, in fact they were "tribal."
We are still tribal.
Your tribe is losing.
"if that **** wins we'll all hang from nooses"
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_g R_
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PATruth
Feb 12 2018, 06:27 PM
_g R_
Feb 12 2018, 06:18 PM
PATruth
Feb 12 2018, 06:08 PM
Free market countries are working hard cleaning up the environmental disasters left over from the failed socialist states like China and the old USSR. It will take a while, relax, capitalism will solve the problem.
The USA is sitting on its' a$$ making it worse with the largest polluter on the planet the US military, while China is cleaning up it's act - phasing out coal and nuclear and investing in solar, wind, high speed rail systems, large-scale hydroelectric plants and wind farms.
Yes the US government is the biggest polluter on the planet and China has a long way to go before they are even close to being as clean as the US. The problems associated with socialist economies will take decades to correct but again, relax, the free market is developing the next generation of clean energy. Hopefully the government won't ruin clean energy again.
Yes of course. The fossil fuel industry does everything in it's power to suppress solar, wind and electric cars for over 40 years, long enough to make trillions in profits with which they can corner the market on everything and look like the heroes.

BP Solar, Shell Wind Division, Chevron Geothermal Operations....GE Electric Vehicles.
Edited by _g R_, Feb 12 2018, 07:26 PM.
The real leftists are the silenced majority, the sleeping giant.
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Robertr2000
Feb 12 2018, 07:05 PM
Mr. Tik
Feb 12 2018, 06:53 PM
PATruth
Feb 12 2018, 03:16 PM
Tribal people were NOT complex societies, in fact they were "tribal."
We are still tribal.
Your tribe is losing.
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You may be a conservative republican..if you are pro life until you get your mistress knocked up
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PATruth
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_g R_
Feb 12 2018, 07:25 PM
PATruth
Feb 12 2018, 06:27 PM
_g R_
Feb 12 2018, 06:18 PM
PATruth
Feb 12 2018, 06:08 PM
Free market countries are working hard cleaning up the environmental disasters left over from the failed socialist states like China and the old USSR. It will take a while, relax, capitalism will solve the problem.
The USA is sitting on its' a$$ making it worse with the largest polluter on the planet the US military, while China is cleaning up it's act - phasing out coal and nuclear and investing in solar, wind, high speed rail systems, large-scale hydroelectric plants and wind farms.
Yes the US government is the biggest polluter on the planet and China has a long way to go before they are even close to being as clean as the US. The problems associated with socialist economies will take decades to correct but again, relax, the free market is developing the next generation of clean energy. Hopefully the government won't ruin clean energy again.
Yes of course. The fossil fuel industry does everything in it's power to suppress solar, wind and electric cars for over 40 years, long enough to make trillions in profits with which they can corner the market on everything and look like the heroes.

BP Solar, Shell Wind Division, Chevron Geothermal Operations....GE Electric Vehicles.
Yep, big corporations are actually investing billions while liberals piss ands moan. Please, just get our of the way, we have work to do.
"No. No he won't. We'll stop it."
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_g R_
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PATruth
Feb 12 2018, 07:48 PM
_g R_
Feb 12 2018, 07:25 PM
PATruth
Feb 12 2018, 06:27 PM
_g R_
Feb 12 2018, 06:18 PM
PATruth
Feb 12 2018, 06:08 PM
Free market countries are working hard cleaning up the environmental disasters left over from the failed socialist states like China and the old USSR. It will take a while, relax, capitalism will solve the problem.
The USA is sitting on its' a$$ making it worse with the largest polluter on the planet the US military, while China is cleaning up it's act - phasing out coal and nuclear and investing in solar, wind, high speed rail systems, large-scale hydroelectric plants and wind farms.
Yes the US government is the biggest polluter on the planet and China has a long way to go before they are even close to being as clean as the US. The problems associated with socialist economies will take decades to correct but again, relax, the free market is developing the next generation of clean energy. Hopefully the government won't ruin clean energy again.
Yes of course. The fossil fuel industry does everything in it's power to suppress solar, wind and electric cars for over 40 years, long enough to make trillions in profits with which they can corner the market on everything and look like the heroes.

BP Solar, Shell Wind Division, Chevron Geothermal Operations....GE Electric Vehicles.
Yep, big corporations are actually investing billions while liberals piss ands moan. Please, just get our of the way, we have work to do.
So why are politicians like Pence and the rest of the GOP still lying about the fact that climate change is really happening and that Oil industry giants like Exxon and Chevron have known it for over 40 years ?

Why do we have morons like Rick Perry and Scott Pruitt --who clearly have conflicts of interest from their gas and oil deals with the Koch brothers and after their lovely environmental records in Texas and Oklahoma...turning them into fracking disasters, polluting the aquifers and causing hundreds of earthquakes-- in charge of taking care of our environment ?
.

They go around poisoning whole towns and then pay them off in settlements after they force the citizens to sign nondisclosure agreements so they can't go on CNN and alert the public about one of their favorite donors, the coal, oil and gas industry and how they have cancer from drinking poisonous water from the faucet...


Edited by _g R_, Feb 12 2018, 08:44 PM.
The real leftists are the silenced majority, the sleeping giant.
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_g R_
Feb 12 2018, 08:42 PM
PATruth
Feb 12 2018, 07:48 PM
_g R_
Feb 12 2018, 07:25 PM
PATruth
Feb 12 2018, 06:27 PM
_g R_
Feb 12 2018, 06:18 PM

Quoting limited to 5 levels deepThe USA is sitting on its' a$$ making it worse with the largest polluter on the planet the US military, while China is cleaning up it's act - phasing out coal and nuclear and investing in solar, wind, high speed rail systems, large-scale hydroelectric plants and wind farms.
Yes the US government is the biggest polluter on the planet and China has a long way to go before they are even close to being as clean as the US. The problems associated with socialist economies will take decades to correct but again, relax, the free market is developing the next generation of clean energy. Hopefully the government won't ruin clean energy again.
Yes of course. The fossil fuel industry does everything in it's power to suppress solar, wind and electric cars for over 40 years, long enough to make trillions in profits with which they can corner the market on everything and look like the heroes.

BP Solar, Shell Wind Division, Chevron Geothermal Operations....GE Electric Vehicles.
Yep, big corporations are actually investing billions while liberals piss ands moan. Please, just get our of the way, we have work to do.
So why are politicians like Pence and the rest of the GOP still lying about the fact that climate change is really happening and that Oil industry giants like Exxon and Chevron have known it for over 40 years ?

Why do we have morons like Rick Perry and Scott Pruitt --who clearly have conflicts of interest from their gas and oil deals with the Koch brothers and after their lovely environmental records in Texas and Oklahoma...turning them into fracking disasters, polluting the aquifers and causing hundreds of earthquakes-- in charge of taking care of our environment ?
.

They go around poisoning whole towns and then pay them off in settlements after they force the citizens to sign nondisclosure agreements so they can't go on CNN and alert the public about one of their favorite donors, the coal, oil and gas industry and how they have cancer from drinking poisonous water from the faucet...


There are millions of people who doubt GW/CC in part because people like Al Gore have lied repeatedly and intentionally manipulated data. In addition the hypocrisy of the limousine liberal elite is very damaging. You either walk the walk or STFU. I'll put my faith in technology and corporate ingenuity, that's where the solutions will come. Fact is it's going to take time. The good news is big business is working 24/7 on clean energy solutions. I'm personally looking forward to owning an electric car that's charged with solar electricity.
Edited by PATruth, Feb 12 2018, 09:06 PM.
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PATruth
Feb 12 2018, 09:06 PM
... The good news is big business is working 24/7 on clean energy solutions.
They've been suppressing clean energy for 40 years.
Carter had solar panels installed on the White House roof and Reagan had them removed in 1981.

Now most of our solar panels are imported from China.
That's smart capitalism at it's best.
The real leftists are the silenced majority, the sleeping giant.
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Mr. Tik
Feb 12 2018, 06:53 PM
PATruth
Feb 12 2018, 03:16 PM
Tribal people were NOT complex societies, in fact they were "tribal."
We are still tribal.
And just which Tribe are your ancestors from?....
Edited by The Inquisitor, Feb 12 2018, 09:36 PM.
Warning....Leftist's Post Here....Take Precautions
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StillCrazy1
Feb 12 2018, 04:48 PM

The US wasnt built on exploitation, the transcontinental railroad for example built itself.


"wasnt"?

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Mr. Tik
Feb 12 2018, 07:47 PM
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Feb 12 2018, 07:05 PM
Mr. Tik
Feb 12 2018, 06:53 PM
PATruth
Feb 12 2018, 03:16 PM
Tribal people were NOT complex societies, in fact they were "tribal."
We are still tribal.
Your tribe is losing.
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I don't do drugs Tik.

Projecting again?
"if that **** wins we'll all hang from nooses"
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Robertr2000
Feb 13 2018, 03:14 PM
Mr. Tik
Feb 12 2018, 07:47 PM
Robertr2000
Feb 12 2018, 07:05 PM
Mr. Tik
Feb 12 2018, 06:53 PM
PATruth
Feb 12 2018, 03:16 PM
Tribal people were NOT complex societies, in fact they were "tribal."
We are still tribal.
Your tribe is losing.
Posted Image
I don't do drugs Tik.

Projecting again?
Tik does plant life.................. :lol:
Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid
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