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No proof of doping does not mean innocence — CAS Secretary General to RT;
Topic Started: Feb 13 2018, 01:59 PM (225 Views)
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Court of Arbitration for Sport Secretary General Matthieu Reeb has told RT that he sees nothing illegal or odd in the International Olympic Committee refusing athletes entry, even in the absence of evidence of doping violations.
“The duty of the IOC (International Olympic Committee) was to show that the athletes involved in this case were guilty of an anti-doping rule violation. The fact that you cannot establish the evidence of guilt does not mean that you have established the innocence of the athletes,” Reeb said in an exclusive interview with RT.

https://www.rt.com/sport/418615-cas-secretary-general-ioc/


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Edited by Paula Ticks, Feb 16 2018, 09:40 AM.
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Siberian
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Stalin RIP, now we have Western standards of justice :)
now you're guilty if you don't prove you're not. If you're Russian, of course..

What a stalinist bastard, and he's not even ashamed to say such things publicly...
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Robert Stout
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American athletes only use dope when it is a medical necessity............. ;)
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No proof of doping also does not mean guilt.
"if that **** wins we'll all hang from nooses"
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jake58

Unfortunately, when you have overwhelming evidence of state run doping, there are innocents who get caught in the net. If perhaps the Russians who ran the doping program could tell us who was clean and who was dirty perhaps this could have gotten sorted out but as we've seen from our Russian representative here, admitting that Russia is somehow at fault for the mess she finds herself in is beyond his limited capabilities.
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Jake, we know already the extent to which Western and particularly US hypocricy stretches.
CIA torture prisons, total surveiliance on own citizens and half of the World, brutal suppression of racial minorities, nanipulated press, deep state, CIA and FBI coups against elected presidents, massive lie of your politicians and other House of cards stuff,, etc.etc.

And now you officially adopt Stalinism, or even worse, even much more a barbarian regime, when until proven innocent you are guilty :).
Does anyone still hesitates that the US is USSR? Absolutely totaritarian and now increadingly lawless state.

Robertr, not also, but exactly innocent if no proof of guilt. It is a basic principle of any democracy - everything is allowed if not forbidden, innocent until proven guilty.

The West is a barbarian, hypocritical and totalitarian.
And your elites needs massive zombying and creation a boogeyman out of Russia to keep you convinced that you live in a democracy :)
Edited by Siberian, Feb 14 2018, 04:31 AM.
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Feb 14 2018, 04:29 AM
Jake, we know already the extent to which Western and particularly US hypocricy stretches.
CIA torture prisons, total surveiliance on own citizens and half of the World, brutal suppression of racial minorities, nanipulated press, deep state, CIA and FBI coups against elected presidents, massive lie of your politicians and other House of cards stuff,, etc.etc.

And now you officially adopt Stalinism, or even worse, even much more a barbarian regime, when until proven innocent you are guilty :).
Does anyone still hesitates that the US is USSR? Absolutely totaritarian and now increadingly lawless state.

Robertr, not also, but exactly innocent if no proof of guilt. It is a basic principle of any democracy - everything is allowed if not forbidden, innocent until proven guilty.

The West is a barbarian, hypocritical and totalitarian.
And your elites needs massive zombying and creation a boogeyman out of Russia to keep you convinced that you live in a democracy :)
So only allowing Russian athletes to participate under a generic flag is "Stalinism, or even worse, even much more a barbarian regime?" You really think this compares to killing 20 million innocent Russians?

Do you think that little your countrymen that died under Stalin? Methinks Siberian really needs to come to grips with Russia's past and Putin, the kinder gentler version of Stalin. I will give Putin credit for one thing, he realizes crony capitalism is much better than communism, it produces much more wealth, enabling Putin to steal billions from the Russian people.
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All you're going to get... be happy for what you got...

Trump needs to focus more so on the male vote. He should have nationalized the Boy Scouts when they decided to admit girls.

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Dont see any Russians there... Just a bunch of folks in gray and white... could be anyone... generic anonymous athletes..Representing Sports...No Country...
Trump needs to focus more so on the male vote. He should have nationalized the Boy Scouts when they decided to admit girls.

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Siberian
Feb 14 2018, 04:29 AM
Jake, we know already the extent to which Western and particularly US hypocricy stretches.
CIA torture prisons, total surveiliance on own citizens and half of the World, brutal suppression of racial minorities, nanipulated press, deep state, CIA and FBI coups against elected presidents, massive lie of your politicians and other House of cards stuff,, etc.etc.

And now you officially adopt Stalinism, or even worse, even much more a barbarian regime, when until proven innocent you are guilty :).
Does anyone still hesitates that the US is USSR? Absolutely totaritarian and now increadingly lawless state.

Robertr, not also, but exactly innocent if no proof of guilt. It is a basic principle of any democracy - everything is allowed if not forbidden, innocent until proven guilty.

The West is a barbarian, hypocritical and totalitarian.
And your elites needs massive zombying and creation a boogeyman out of Russia to keep you convinced that you live in a democracy :)
yo dumbass...

If perhaps the Russians who ran the doping program could tell us who was clean and who was dirty perhaps this could have gotten sorted out
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lol, Jake, I suppose your little brain cannot accomodate the idea that confession under torture is not confession. and Russia will never do it :) Western inquisition traditions will not work with Russia.
And now after this dirty play has been committed against Russia I suppose we will not stop until the Western hypocritic practice of legalized dopung is destroyed. Any agression against Russia always ends with defeat of agressor.

The US is totalitarian on all levels, either vertically - on level of state, and horizontally, Americans spy and report on each other to the repressive state, as an obedient disciplined herd, and have no idea what real freedom means.
USA is worse than USSR

https://youtu.be/1iFSTUnf8xQ
Edited by Siberian, Feb 15 2018, 01:35 AM.
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Feb 15 2018, 01:25 AM
lol, Jake, I suppose your little brain cannot accomodate the idea that confession under torture is not confession. and Russia will never do it :) Western inquisition traditions will not work with Russia.
And now after this dirty play has been committed against Russia I suppose we will not stop until the Western hypocritic practice of legalized dopung is destroyed. Any agression against Russia always ends with defeat of agressor.

The US is totalitarian on all levels, either vertically - on level of state, and horizontally, Americans spy and report on each other to the repressive state, as an obedient disciplined herd, and have no idea what real freedom means.
USA is worse than USSR

https://youtu.be/1iFSTUnf8xQ
It's not the US, these are INTERNATIONAL committees... the rest of the world thinks you're lying scumbag cheaters. Have a great day!
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Feb 14 2018, 01:40 PM
Dont see any Russians there... Just a bunch of folks in gray and white... could be anyone... generic anonymous athletes..Representing Sports...No Country...
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Feb 15 2018, 05:27 PM
voted4reagan
Feb 14 2018, 01:40 PM
Dont see any Russians there... Just a bunch of folks in gray and white... could be anyone... generic anonymous athletes..Representing Sports...No Country...
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who cares, everybody knows they are Russian.

anyway, without strongest Russian athletes these olympic games are already a disaster, I've heard the level of competition is very low, no records, no remarkable results, no spectacular fight. zero emotions.

It's a self punushment by the West, now even those medals which Americans etc could win in fair fight are devalued, it's a shameful fight against an opponent with his hands tired behind his back.
Complete disgrace and senseless victories which you cannot be respected for.
Edited by Siberian, Feb 16 2018, 12:35 AM.
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Feb 16 2018, 12:35 AM
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Feb 15 2018, 05:27 PM
voted4reagan
Feb 14 2018, 01:40 PM
Dont see any Russians there... Just a bunch of folks in gray and white... could be anyone... generic anonymous athletes..Representing Sports...No Country...
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who cares, everybody knows they are Russian.

anyway, without strongest Russian athletes these olympic games are already a disaster, I've heard the level of competition is very low, no records, no remarkable results, no spectacular fight. zero emotions.

It's a self punushment by the West, now even those medals which Americans etc could win in fair fight are devalued, it's a shameful fight against an opponent with his hands tired behind his back.
Complete disgrace and senseless victories which you cannot be respected for.
Better living through chemistry...,.Russia will eventually learn from the USA that doping is proper when tied to "medical necessity".......... :cheers:
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Feb 15 2018, 05:27 PM
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Feb 14 2018, 01:40 PM
Dont see any Russians there... Just a bunch of folks in gray and white... could be anyone... generic anonymous athletes..Representing Sports...No Country...
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Russia's Shame. ^^^
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Scum like Putin are incapable of feeling shame.
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Feb 14 2018, 01:27 PM
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All you're going to get... be happy for what you got...

Take a look at the number of athletes recording Russia's shame on their camera phones.
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Feb 16 2018, 05:28 AM
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Feb 15 2018, 05:27 PM
voted4reagan
Feb 14 2018, 01:40 PM
Dont see any Russians there... Just a bunch of folks in gray and white... could be anyone... generic anonymous athletes..Representing Sports...No Country...
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Russia's Shame. ^^^
Agreed... But I feel a bit of regret for those Russians that didn't cheat.

They have to pay the butchers bill for their cheating Government and Athletes.


Trump needs to focus more so on the male vote. He should have nationalized the Boy Scouts when they decided to admit girls.

Harambe4Trump AKA "FASHY"
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Feb 16 2018, 06:40 AM
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Feb 16 2018, 05:28 AM
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Feb 15 2018, 05:27 PM
voted4reagan
Feb 14 2018, 01:40 PM
Dont see any Russians there... Just a bunch of folks in gray and white... could be anyone... generic anonymous athletes..Representing Sports...No Country...
Posted Image

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Russia's Shame. ^^^
Agreed... But I feel a bit of regret for those Russians that didn't cheat.

They have to pay the butchers bill for their cheating Government and Athletes.


Indeed, that's a shame. All that hard work and training for naught.
Ringoism: Never underestimate the advantages of being underestimated.
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