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The Big Government Policies Of The Democratic Party Have Been Disastrous For Native Peoples
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Topic Started: Feb 17 2018, 06:51 PM (671 Views)
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PATruth
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Feb 19 2018, 11:54 AM
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This article is laughable. That problems still exist for natives in spite of assistance doesn't support that they'd be better off without it. "Populist-conservative policies" offer no mechanism to improvement. If it were up to democrats native people will forever need assistance. Hint, if you pay your children not to work chances are they never will. Democrats treat minorities like helpless children.
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Feb 19 2018, 12:29 PM
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The problem Republicans have is that they want to push a individual philosophy on a tribal society. As for Big Government policies, what the Tribes want is pure and simple...Obey all Treaty Stipulations, we don't want equal status as "States", we are Sovereign Nations enclosed by the United States. The relationship the United States has with the Tribes is one of one nation-state to another...not Individual States in dealing with the Tribes, we deal as equals with the Federal Government in conjunction with the US Constitution, specifically the Supremacy Clause. We want nothing more then what is due to us in terms of aid, assistance, or cooperation. Tsalagi1 has a fascinating perspective on the historical relationship between the federal government and tribes covered by treaties. A close reading of the original agreements in their historical context gives powerful support to his interpretation. As always, a smart conservative with good manners.
In today's America, the idea of independent sovereignty of the tribes is simply a pipe dream. If a tribe could sign a treaty with a foreign nation, North Korea say, there might be a chance for the constitutional libertarianism Tsalagi1 envisions. Hell, they can't even sell cigarettes without the white man's OK. America isn't going to grant Native Americans either liberty or equality until everybody else has gotten it first.
Today's tribes are an historical vestige of the war of genocide upon which today's United States was established. Americans don't think their ancestors did anything wrong in killing millions of natives and seizing their land back then, so why should we do anything right today?
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Feb 19 2018, 01:29 PM
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This article is laughable. That problems still exist for natives in spite of assistance doesn't support that they'd be better off without it. "Populist-conservative policies" offer no mechanism to improvement.
If it were up to democrats native people will forever need assistance. Hint, if you pay your children not to work chances are they never will. Democrats treat minorities like helpless children. As the Urban League’s executive director Whitney Young put it in the 60's,
“liberalism seems to be related to the distance people are from the problem.”
NIMBY mofos....
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Feb 19 2018, 02:40 PM
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You destroy our traditional form of governments to weaken us as sovereign nations, forbid our children from speaking their own language, and stick us on lands not of our choosing. Pray tell how this was supposed to play out?
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Feb 19 2018, 02:56 PM
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You destroy our traditional form of governments to weaken us as sovereign nations, forbid our children from speaking their own language, and stick us on lands not of our choosing. Pray tell how this was supposed to play out? No different than how the current illegal invasion that you support will play out ....
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PATruth
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Feb 19 2018, 04:08 PM
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You destroy our traditional form of governments to weaken us as sovereign nations, forbid our children from speaking their own language, and stick us on lands not of our choosing. Pray tell how this was supposed to play out? You have your reservations and billions of dollars in welfare. Do we really need to tell you how to live? Live however you want, just stop crying about the past.
Here's a suggestion, live like you forefathers, no phones, no electricity, go back to a hunter/tribal existence. Go for it, recapture your traditional form of government. By the way, when can we cut off the welfare and close the BIA?
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Feb 19 2018, 04:13 PM
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You destroy our traditional form of governments to weaken us as sovereign nations, forbid our children from speaking their own language, and stick us on lands not of our choosing. Pray tell how this was supposed to play out?
You have your reservations and billions of dollars in welfare. Do we really need to tell you how to live? Live however you want, just stop crying about the past. Here's a suggestion, live like you forefathers, no phones, no electricity, go back to a hunter/tribal existence. Go for it, recapture your traditional form of government. By the way, when can we cut off the welfare and close the BIA? Isn't the point of a sovereign nation to be sovereign?
Begging for "what is due to us in terms of aid, assistance, or cooperation" hardly seems to fit the bill....
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Feb 19 2018, 04:18 PM
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You destroy our traditional form of governments to weaken us as sovereign nations, forbid our children from speaking their own language, and stick us on lands not of our choosing. Pray tell how this was supposed to play out?
You have your reservations and billions of dollars in welfare. Do we really need to tell you how to live? Live however you want, just stop crying about the past. Here's a suggestion, live like you forefathers, no phones, no electricity, go back to a hunter/tribal existence. Go for it, recapture your traditional form of government. By the way, when can we cut off the welfare and close the BIA?
Isn't the point of a sovereign nation to be sovereign? Begging for "what is due to us in terms of aid, assistance, or cooperation" hardly seems to fit the bill.... With today's Native Americans the point is to remain a perpetual victim and dwell on the past. It's an excuse for failure, it keeps the gubmint money flowing and it keeps tribal people politically relevant.
It's a shame a once proud, independent people have become so pathetic.
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Feb 19 2018, 04:18 PM
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The dems War on Poverty is now approaching 20 TRILLION dollars of spending and has done nothing but create more government dependent slugs. The dems "best program", social security is the largest Ponzi scheme in global history. Our once proud Native American people have been reduced to drunks, cigarette salesman and casino workers.
Give a liberal unlimited sums of other peoples money and you will get an unmitigated disaster in return. Whereas the Nixon "war on Drugs" has been going on 50 years..and a Trillion dollars and drugs are more plentiful than ever But Sessions thinks we ought to do more of the same and expect different results.
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Feb 19 2018, 04:23 PM
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The dems War on Poverty is now approaching 20 TRILLION dollars of spending and has done nothing but create more government dependent slugs. The dems "best program", social security is the largest Ponzi scheme in global history. Our once proud Native American people have been reduced to drunks, cigarette salesman and casino workers.
Give a liberal unlimited sums of other peoples money and you will get an unmitigated disaster in return. Whereas the Nixon "war on Drugs" has been going on 50 years..and a Trillion dollars and drugs are more plentiful than ever But Sessions thinks we ought to do more of the same and expect different results. Good point, another big government failure! Whatever government touches turns brown and smells. Just look at what liberals have done to our public education system, it used to be the envy of the world, now it's a joke.
Why do lefties love big government?
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Feb 19 2018, 04:26 PM
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The dems War on Poverty is now approaching 20 TRILLION dollars of spending and has done nothing but create more government dependent slugs. The dems "best program", social security is the largest Ponzi scheme in global history. Our once proud Native American people have been reduced to drunks, cigarette salesman and casino workers.
Give a liberal unlimited sums of other peoples money and you will get an unmitigated disaster in return. Whereas the Nixon "war on Drugs" has been going on 50 years..and a Trillion dollars and drugs are more plentiful than ever But Sessions thinks we ought to do more of the same and expect different results.
Good point, another big government failure! Whatever government touches turns brown and smells. Just look at what liberals have done to our public education system, it used to be the envy of the world, now it's a joke. Why do lefties love big government? So you admit that Trump appointing Sessions and standing behind his big gubmint policies is a failure?
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You may be a conservative republican..if you are pro life until you get your mistress knocked up
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Feb 19 2018, 04:32 PM
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The dems War on Poverty is now approaching 20 TRILLION dollars of spending and has done nothing but create more government dependent slugs. The dems "best program", social security is the largest Ponzi scheme in global history. Our once proud Native American people have been reduced to drunks, cigarette salesman and casino workers.
Give a liberal unlimited sums of other peoples money and you will get an unmitigated disaster in return. Whereas the Nixon "war on Drugs" has been going on 50 years..and a Trillion dollars and drugs are more plentiful than ever But Sessions thinks we ought to do more of the same and expect different results.
Good point, another big government failure! Whatever government touches turns brown and smells. Just look at what liberals have done to our public education system, it used to be the envy of the world, now it's a joke. Why do lefties love big government? So you admit that Trump appointing Sessions and standing behind his big gubmint policies is a failure? Yep....
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Feb 19 2018, 04:33 PM
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The dems War on Poverty is now approaching 20 TRILLION dollars of spending and has done nothing but create more government dependent slugs. The dems "best program", social security is the largest Ponzi scheme in global history. Our once proud Native American people have been reduced to drunks, cigarette salesman and casino workers.
Give a liberal unlimited sums of other peoples money and you will get an unmitigated disaster in return. Whereas the Nixon "war on Drugs" has been going on 50 years..and a Trillion dollars and drugs are more plentiful than ever But Sessions thinks we ought to do more of the same and expect different results.
Good point, another big government failure! Whatever government touches turns brown and smells. Just look at what liberals have done to our public education system, it used to be the envy of the world, now it's a joke. Why do lefties love big government? So you admit that Trump appointing Sessions and standing behind his big gubmint policies is a failure? I admit I suspect you are smoking something. Do you live in Colorado? I was just there, you would love it. PYOB, Pick Your Own Buds stores. perfect for people who like to live in a drug induced haze.
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Feb 19 2018, 04:40 PM
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The dems War on Poverty is now approaching 20 TRILLION dollars of spending and has done nothing but create more government dependent slugs. The dems "best program", social security is the largest Ponzi scheme in global history. Our once proud Native American people have been reduced to drunks, cigarette salesman and casino workers.
Give a liberal unlimited sums of other peoples money and you will get an unmitigated disaster in return. Whereas the Nixon "war on Drugs" has been going on 50 years..and a Trillion dollars and drugs are more plentiful than ever But Sessions thinks we ought to do more of the same and expect different results.
Good point, another big government failure! Whatever government touches turns brown and smells. Just look at what liberals have done to our public education system, it used to be the envy of the world, now it's a joke. Why do lefties love big government? So you admit that Trump appointing Sessions and standing behind his big gubmint policies is a failure?
I admit I suspect you are smoking something. Do you live in Colorado? I was just there, you would love it. PYOB, Pick Your Own Buds stores. perfect for people who like to live in a drug induced haze. Born and Raised in Denver. I live in Oregon So instead of answering my question, you go off on some reefer madness blather. It would probably cause your mouth to burn to suggest that Trump is less than perfect
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You may be a conservative republican..if you are pro life until you get your mistress knocked up
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Feb 19 2018, 04:42 PM
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The dems War on Poverty is now approaching 20 TRILLION dollars of spending and has done nothing but create more government dependent slugs. The dems "best program", social security is the largest Ponzi scheme in global history. Our once proud Native American people have been reduced to drunks, cigarette salesman and casino workers.
Give a liberal unlimited sums of other peoples money and you will get an unmitigated disaster in return. Whereas the Nixon "war on Drugs" has been going on 50 years..and a Trillion dollars and drugs are more plentiful than ever But Sessions thinks we ought to do more of the same and expect different results.
Good point, another big government failure! Whatever government touches turns brown and smells. Just look at what liberals have done to our public education system, it used to be the envy of the world, now it's a joke. Why do lefties love big government? So you admit that Trump appointing Sessions and standing behind his big gubmint policies is a failure?
I admit I suspect you are smoking something. Do you live in Colorado? I was just there, you would love it. PYOB, Pick Your Own Buds stores. perfect for people who like to live in a drug induced haze. Tik is a one issue dude...
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Feb 19 2018, 04:42 PM
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And seriously dawg..whats up with that avatar? If you need to get your rocks off..I am sure there are certain local bars you can go to..pcom isn't the place for hookups.
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Feb 19 2018, 04:45 PM
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Quoting limited to 5 levels deepWhereas the Nixon "war on Drugs" has been going on 50 years..and a Trillion dollars and drugs are more plentiful than ever But Sessions thinks we ought to do more of the same and expect different results.
Good point, another big government failure! Whatever government touches turns brown and smells. Just look at what liberals have done to our public education system, it used to be the envy of the world, now it's a joke. Why do lefties love big government? So you admit that Trump appointing Sessions and standing behind his big gubmint policies is a failure?
I admit I suspect you are smoking something. Do you live in Colorado? I was just there, you would love it. PYOB, Pick Your Own Buds stores. perfect for people who like to live in a drug induced haze. Born and Raised in Denver. I live in Oregon So instead of answering my question, you go off on some reefer madness blather. It would probably cause your mouth to burn to suggest that Trump is less than perfect I didn't answer your question because it was random, off topic and pointless. Ask good questions and I'll consider enlightening you. As for Trump I have repeatedly called him an arrogant a-hole, have since the primaries.
My avatar is a warning, Trump is coming for you...
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Feb 19 2018, 04:47 PM
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And seriously dawg..whats up with that avatar? If you need to get your rocks off..I am sure there are certain local bars you can go to..pcom isn't the place for hookups. It's prolly a riff on Wilmy posts...
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Tik is a one issue dude...
The War on Drugs is an issue that affects a lot of thing in this country And of course there is this
John Ehrlichman, counsel and Assistant to the President for Domestic Affairs under Nixon
The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/eriksherman/2016/03/23/nixons-drug-war-an-excuse-to-lock-up-blacks-and-protesters-continues/
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Tik is a one issue dude...
The War on Drugs is an issue that affects a lot of thing in this country And of course there is this
John Ehrlichman, counsel and Assistant to the President for Domestic Affairs under NixonThe Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.https://www.forbes.com/sites/eriksherman/2016/03/23/nixons-drug-war-an-excuse-to-lock-up-blacks-and-protesters-continues/ And this tripe disproves my point how?
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