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The Catholic Church; A History of horror
Topic Started: Feb 18 2018, 07:49 PM (384 Views)
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Lets start with a recent summary: https://www.cnn.com/2017/06/29/world/timeline-catholic-church-sexual-abuse-scandals/index.html

Then a historical summary of 2000 years of sexual abuse of children: https://www.jstor.org/stable/27639072?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

Shake your head: http://yournewswire.com/catholic-archbishop-pedophilia-god/

The horror...the horror: http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/08/what-is-the-vatican-hiding/, http://churchandstate.org.uk/2015/12/the-role-of-the-catholic-church-in-yugoslavias-holocaust/

More horror: http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/03/the-right-wing-doesnt-want-to-talk-about-christian-atrocities-so-lets-talk-about-christian-atrocities/

And more: https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/gvzebx/mother-teresa-was-kind-of-a-heartless-bitch

They had to manufacture a miracle to beatify this sadistic bitch. Claimed a cancer cure by science was done by her.

Finally, for now, have a look at the people who ran this foul enterprise: http://www.znakovi-vremena.net/know-your-popes/

Aren't you proud to be a catholic? How can you live with yourself. How?



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"About the least fashionable thing one can do these days is utter a kind word about the Catholic Church. The idea that the church has been an obstacle to human progress has been elevated to the level of something everybody thinks he knows. But to the contrary, it is to the Catholic Church more than to any other institution that we owe so many of the treasures of Western civilization."

"Knowingly or not, scholars operated for two centuries under an Enlightenment prejudice that assumes all progress to come from religious skeptics, and that whatever the church touches is backward, superstitious, even barbaric.....But there is scarcely a historian of science in America who would endorse this comic-book version of events today. To the contrary, modern historians of science freely acknowledge the church's contributions — both theoretical and material — to the Scientific Revolution."

- It was the church's worldview that insisted the universe was orderly and operated according to certain fixed laws."

- The first person to measure the rate of acceleration of a freely falling body was Father Giambattista Riccioli.

- Father Roger Boscovich, who has been described as "the greatest genius that Yugoslavia ever produced," has often been called the father of modern atomic theory.

- By the 18th century, the Jesuits "had contributed to the development of pendulum clocks, pantographs, barometers, reflecting telescopes, and microscopes, to scientific fields as various as magnetism, optics, and electricity.

- Seismology, the study of earthquakes, has been so dominated by Jesuits that it has become known as "the Jesuit science."

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/700210479/Commentary-History-shows-contributions-of-Catholic-Church-to-Western-civilization.html

"We should start by noting that Catholic charity work is extensive and widely considered a crucial part of the nation’s social safety net. By itself, Catholic Charities USA, has more than 2,500 local agencies that serve 10 million people annually, said Mary L. Gautier, a senior research associate at the Center for Applied Research in the Apostolate, an institute at Georgetown University that studies the church."

"The Church operates more than 140,000 schools, 10,000 orphanages, 5,000 hospitals and some 16,000 other health clinics. Caritas, the umbrella organisation for Catholic aid agencies, estimates that spending by its affiliates totals between £2 billion and £4 billion, making it one of the biggest aid agencies in the world."

http://catholicherald.co.uk/issues/february-17th-2017/a-worldwide-force-for-good/

Edited by BigE, Feb 19 2018, 08:13 AM.
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Feb 18 2018, 07:49 PM
Lets start with a recent summary: https://www.cnn.com/2017/06/29/world/timeline-catholic-church-sexual-abuse-scandals/index.html

Then a historical summary of 2000 years of sexual abuse of children: https://www.jstor.org/stable/27639072?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

Shake your head: http://yournewswire.com/catholic-archbishop-pedophilia-god/

The horror...the horror: http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/08/what-is-the-vatican-hiding/, http://churchandstate.org.uk/2015/12/the-role-of-the-catholic-church-in-yugoslavias-holocaust/

More horror: http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/03/the-right-wing-doesnt-want-to-talk-about-christian-atrocities-so-lets-talk-about-christian-atrocities/

And more: https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/gvzebx/mother-teresa-was-kind-of-a-heartless-bitch

They had to manufacture a miracle to beatify this sadistic bitch. Claimed a cancer cure by science was done by her.

Finally, for now, have a look at the people who ran this foul enterprise: http://www.znakovi-vremena.net/know-your-popes/

Aren't you proud to be a catholic? How can you live with yourself. How?



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Feb 19 2018, 08:12 AM
"About the least fashionable thing one can do these days is utter a kind word about the Catholic Church. The idea that the church has been an obstacle to human progress has been elevated to the level of something everybody thinks he knows. But to the contrary, it is to the Catholic Church more than to any other institution that we owe so many of the treasures of Western civilization."

"Knowingly or not, scholars operated for two centuries under an Enlightenment prejudice that assumes all progress to come from religious skeptics, and that whatever the church touches is backward, superstitious, even barbaric.....But there is scarcely a historian of science in America who would endorse this comic-book version of events today. To the contrary, modern historians of science freely acknowledge the church's contributions — both theoretical and material — to the Scientific Revolution."

- It was the church's worldview that insisted the universe was orderly and operated according to certain fixed laws."

- The first person to measure the rate of acceleration of a freely falling body was Father Giambattista Riccioli.

- Father Roger Boscovich, who has been described as "the greatest genius that Yugoslavia ever produced," has often been called the father of modern atomic theory.

- By the 18th century, the Jesuits "had contributed to the development of pendulum clocks, pantographs, barometers, reflecting telescopes, and microscopes, to scientific fields as various as magnetism, optics, and electricity.

- Seismology, the study of earthquakes, has been so dominated by Jesuits that it has become known as "the Jesuit science."

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/700210479/Commentary-History-shows-contributions-of-Catholic-Church-to-Western-civilization.html

"We should start by noting that Catholic charity work is extensive and widely considered a crucial part of the nation’s social safety net. By itself, Catholic Charities USA, has more than 2,500 local agencies that serve 10 million people annually, said Mary L. Gautier, a senior research associate at the Center for Applied Research in the Apostolate, an institute at Georgetown University that studies the church."

"The Church operates more than 140,000 schools, 10,000 orphanages, 5,000 hospitals and some 16,000 other health clinics. Caritas, the umbrella organisation for Catholic aid agencies, estimates that spending by its affiliates totals between £2 billion and £4 billion, making it one of the biggest aid agencies in the world."

http://catholicherald.co.uk/issues/february-17th-2017/a-worldwide-force-for-good/

Yes, it is a fine upstanding organization; http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/07/eight-ugly-sins-the-catholic-bishops-hope-lay-members-and-others-wont-notice/

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/02/scale-catholic-church-sex-crimes-revealed-170206135244774.html

https://www.ranker.com/list/most-unforgivable-things-the-catholic-church-has-done/lea-rose-emery (now you know where the Islamics got their foul ideas)

and on and on and on.
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"Bigotry Alert: After Publishing the Names of Priests Merely Accused of Abuse For Years, Boston Globe Refuses to Name Sex Abusers in Its Own Offices"
http://www.themediareport.com/2017/12/18/boston-globe-double-standard-2/

RC uses the same double standard.
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Feb 19 2018, 01:11 PM
"Bigotry Alert: After Publishing the Names of Priests Merely Accused of Abuse For Years, Boston Globe Refuses to Name Sex Abusers in Its Own Offices"
http://www.themediareport.com/2017/12/18/boston-globe-double-standard-2/

RC uses the same double standard.
1) I don't have an office.
2) there are no sex abusers for me to name. :rollseyes:

The RCC however is exactly what you suggest: http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-clergy-abuse-20180217-story.html

http://www.indiannewslink.co.nz/filipinos-call-to-include-religious-bodies-in-child-abuse-inquiry/

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-21/paedophile-priest-allegedly-offended-for-four-decades/8042410

There is no finer practitioner of the double standard than the RCC and it's supporters.
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...and it just never ends: https://publicinquiry.eu/2017/03/14/catholic-church-the-brutal-truth/, http://www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm.

Somebody was getting close to something the church didn't want exposed: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-20957406

The Church's "good" works: http://hungarianspectrum.org/2015/09/06/the-hungarian-catholic-church-is-not-very-christian/

xians venerate a dead jew, yet hate jews: http://www.yadvashem.org/download/about_holocaust/studies/BrahamENGPRINT.pdf

There's much more.
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Feb 19 2018, 01:11 PM
"Bigotry Alert: After Publishing the Names of Priests Merely Accused of Abuse For Years, Boston Globe Refuses to Name Sex Abusers in Its Own Offices"
http://www.themediareport.com/2017/12/18/boston-globe-double-standard-2/

RC uses the same double standard.
1) I don't have an office.
2) there are no sex abusers for me to name. :rollseyes:

The RCC however is exactly what you suggest: http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-clergy-abuse-20180217-story.html

http://www.indiannewslink.co.nz/filipinos-call-to-include-religious-bodies-in-child-abuse-inquiry/

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-21/paedophile-priest-allegedly-offended-for-four-decades/8042410

There is no finer practitioner of the double standard than the RCC and it's supporters.
99.9% of Catholics don't have an office either.
They don't have any sex abuser to name either.

You DO have a double standard.
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Feb 19 2018, 03:17 PM
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Feb 19 2018, 01:31 PM
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Feb 19 2018, 01:11 PM
"Bigotry Alert: After Publishing the Names of Priests Merely Accused of Abuse For Years, Boston Globe Refuses to Name Sex Abusers in Its Own Offices"
http://www.themediareport.com/2017/12/18/boston-globe-double-standard-2/

RC uses the same double standard.
1) I don't have an office.
2) there are no sex abusers for me to name. :rollseyes:

The RCC however is exactly what you suggest: http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-clergy-abuse-20180217-story.html

http://www.indiannewslink.co.nz/filipinos-call-to-include-religious-bodies-in-child-abuse-inquiry/

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-21/paedophile-priest-allegedly-offended-for-four-decades/8042410

There is no finer practitioner of the double standard than the RCC and it's supporters.
99.9% of Catholics don't have an office either.
They don't have any sex abuser to name either.

You DO have a double standard.
Did you know 99.9% of all statistics are made up on the spot?

This is true though:https://www.ncronline.org/blogs/ncr-today/hungary-bishops-resigns-amid-investigation-fraud-other-crimes

...and this: https://www.ncronline.org/blogs/ncr-today/hungary-bishops-resigns-amid-investigation-fraud-other-crimes

There is no crime the RCC commits people like you will not forgive.
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Did you know 99.9% of all statistics are made up on the spot?

I suppose that would include the ones you post all the time.......
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Did you know 99.9% of all statistics are made up on the spot?

I suppose that would include the ones you post all the time.......
I never post stats unless they are from a verifiable source. You throw unverifiable, random numbers around all the time
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Did you know 99.9% of all statistics are made up on the spot?

I suppose that would include the ones you post all the time.......
I never post stats unless they are from a verifiable source. You throw unverifiable, random numbers around all the time
How do you verify a source?

And what statistics were you referring to that are made up 99.9% of the time?
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Did you know 99.9% of all statistics are made up on the spot?

I suppose that would include the ones you post all the time.......
I never post stats unless they are from a verifiable source. You throw unverifiable, random numbers around all the time
How do you verify a source?

And what statistics were you referring to that are made up 99.9% of the time?
Are you kidding? :rotflmao:
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Did you know 99.9% of all statistics are made up on the spot?

I suppose that would include the ones you post all the time.......
I never post stats unless they are from a verifiable source. You throw unverifiable, random numbers around all the time
How do you verify a source?

And what statistics were you referring to that are made up 99.9% of the time?
Are you kidding? :rotflmao:
Nope, not kidding. Serious questions.
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I never post stats unless they are from a verifiable source. You throw unverifiable, random numbers around all the time
How do you verify a source?

And what statistics were you referring to that are made up 99.9% of the time?
Are you kidding? :rotflmao:
Nope, not kidding. Serious questions.
Really? You don't know how to verify a source? I guess that is why you are religious. If you had verified the source of your bible, you'd be anything but religious.

Have you read it all the way through BTW?

You have several times in several posts on various threads said something like "99.9% of..." never with any supporting links or sources.
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"“You don't get to advertise all the good that your religion does without first scrupulously subtracting all the harm it does and considering seriously the question of whether some other religion, or no religion at all, does better.”
― Daniel C. Dennett"
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Really? You don't know how to verify a source? I guess that is why you are religious. If you had verified the source of your bible, you'd be anything but religious.

Of course I do.

I asked because I wonder if you do.

I still recall you years ago posting a link from a professional knitter about the historicity of Jesus.
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You have several times in several posts on various threads said something like "99.9% of..." never with any supporting links or sources.
I said 99.9% of Catholics don't hold an office in the Church.

It's not a made up statistic. It's pretty simple math.

There are about 500,000 bishops, priests and deacons in the church.

There a roughly a billion Catholics in the world.

(1 billion-500k)/1 billion = 99.95%
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You have several times in several posts on various threads said something like "99.9% of..." never with any supporting links or sources.
I said 99.9% of Catholics don't hold an office in the Church.

It's not a made up statistic. It's pretty simple math.

There are about 500,000 bishops, priests and deacons in the church.

There a roughly a billion Catholics in the world.

(1 billion-500k)/1 billion = 99.95%
You also claimed 99.9% of historians claimed jesus was a real person. As I said, most stats are made up on the spot.
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Everywhere there is a catholic church, there are pedophile priests:http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4137297/catholic-church-and-the-crimes-of-its-clergy/

The rot starts and is protected from the very top: http://csjnews.org/2017/07/20/catholic-church-sexual-crimes/

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