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| Marines Quietly Lower Combat Training Requirements To Help Female Officers | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Feb 20 2018, 03:29 PM (347 Views) | |
| clone | Feb 20 2018, 03:29 PM Post #1 |
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Marines Quietly Lower Combat Training Requirements To Help Female Officers (excerpt) Of course, the Marines are claiming that they absolutely didn’t make this change to help more women make it through IOC. They cite “multiple modifications” made to the course over the past four decades, each designed to adapt to changing requirements. But that answer rings a little hollow when you consider that only one woman has made it all the way through the full IOC since then. LINK |
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Only liberals can choose not to go down the road to widespread, systematic violence. | |
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| Harambe4Trump | Feb 20 2018, 03:46 PM Post #2 |
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Why is Mattis permitting this ? |
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Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary. #MAGA #wallsnotwars | |
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| clone | Feb 21 2018, 02:58 PM Post #3 |
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Obviously, the number of women who are capable of all that is vanishingly small in the general population. Heck, the number of men who can manage it is no doubt far below one percent. Why do you think we call them the few and the proud? But the fact is, there were a few women completing the CET. In the first year of trials, three women made it through, though they didn’t finish the entire IOC. And wasn’t that always the expectation? We supposedly weren’t guaranteeing any particular number of women roles as combat officers in the Marine Corps. We were just giving them the opportunity to try and prove they have what it takes. But now, some aspiring officers (presumably of both genders) who fail to complete the CET will still make it through and lead Marines into combat. You can say that you’re “not lowering the standards” until you’re blue in the face, but it sure looks that way from the outside. |
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| Drudge X | Feb 21 2018, 08:36 PM Post #4 |
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The enemy do not lower their determination to kill. |
| Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind. | |
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| clone | Feb 21 2018, 10:08 PM Post #5 |
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Nor do they lower their combat ready standards...
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Only liberals can choose not to go down the road to widespread, systematic violence. | |
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| Tsalagi | Feb 21 2018, 10:33 PM Post #6 |
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This is where you did not have any proof but respond with "if it walks like a duck..." pathology |
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| Drudge X | Feb 21 2018, 10:38 PM Post #7 |
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You disagree? |
| Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind. | |
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| clone | Feb 21 2018, 10:42 PM Post #8 |
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Only liberals can choose not to go down the road to widespread, systematic violence. | |
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| Robert Stout | Feb 22 2018, 01:25 AM Post #9 |
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Real Marines will welcome having "comfort women" in their foxholes, much more than a transgender.................
Edited by Robert Stout, Feb 22 2018, 01:27 AM.
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| Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid | |
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| Tsalagi | Feb 22 2018, 10:00 AM Post #10 |
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Yes, I want proof, show me a DoD Memo, a Bureau of Naval Personnel Order, a Marine Corps Order , something that dictates standards for female officers entering Combat MOS's are to be given lesser standards then their male counterparts by design. Let's also just take a breath here...aside from that last male bastion in the military, the Infantry, physical strength is irrevelent to a Commissioned Officer leading Marines. A "Tanker"...armor, a "Cannon xxxxer"..artillery..."Pilots" for Apache or Cobra gunship's, Chinooks, Sea Knights, Ospreys do not require an Officer to bench press their weight. Fashy is all about robotics...they are developing an automaton nicked named a Mule, a drone guided by a remote carried by a Marine that will one day be able to carry ammo, packs, etc allowing the infantryman to carry only what he/she has on their person, a rifle, canteen, magazines, and ballistics vest. That's about 20lbs worth of gear and weapon. |
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| PATruth | Feb 22 2018, 10:22 AM Post #11 |
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Our liberal friends have already F ed up education, the FBI, the DOJ, the EPA and most of Washington, I guess they feel it's time to take their magic to the military. We all know our enemies will respect and fear us more if we have a diverse, gender friendly fighting force that caters to the need of transsexuals, gays and women. |
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"No. No he won't. We'll stop it." | |
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| Tsalagi | Feb 22 2018, 10:34 AM Post #12 |
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My youngest boy as you know (sorry if you don't, I assumed I've bragged bout him enough) is a graduate of the Naval Academy at Annapolisy MD, and is a 0302 (Marine Officer, Infantry) 1st LT in the Marines, he stated he knew several fine female midshipmen at the Academy who have since gone on to become fine Marine Commissioned Officers. Where is this ongoing sexism that women can't do well in the military coming from? The first female graduate of West Point occured in 1971 I believe. The US military hasn't collapsed as far as I know... Would you be so kind as to tell me, a former Marine infantryman himself, why a female can not lead me into combat? |
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| PATruth | Feb 22 2018, 10:49 AM Post #13 |
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Yes, I am aware of your son's accomplishments, you should brag about him, I'm sure he's an outstanding young man. That aside I never said they couldn't lead. If they earn their position in EXACTLY the same manor and under the same standards as the men then so be it. This thread is about lowering the standards for women, something I oppose. What's confusing is why some people, always on the left, want to pretend there are no physical differences between men and women? There's a reason why we have men's sports and women's sports. Care to guess the reason? |
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"No. No he won't. We'll stop it." | |
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| Tsalagi | Feb 22 2018, 11:38 AM Post #14 |
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You'd have a valid point if we were still fighting with sword and shield, and the success or fail of a mission depended on physical strength....they don't. Today's military wanted my son to be a thinking Marine, my generation and a few generations of Marines before that...they just wanted us to know how to pull a trigger or jam a bayonet in an enemy. It does not take physical strength to plan a company-sized assault on a Taliban village, nor does it take physical strength to command 4 tanks from a command M1A1 Abrams tank or a platoon of Stryker vehicles. Nor does it take physical strength to pull the lanyard on a Howitzer or direct fire from a Forward Observation point or a Fire Direction Center. It does not take physical strength to fire a boatload of missiles from an Apache gunship. It does not, with such martial arts as Krav Maga require immense physical strength to overcome an enemy soldier. Today's and tomorrow's Marine officer will have to understand fields of instruction they never would have thought before...all without having to bench your own weight. |
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| PATruth | Feb 22 2018, 11:49 AM Post #15 |
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So then you suggest restricting women's roles to roles that do not require physical strength like planning, logistics and management? Shame on you. How would you feel about women in combat that are required to carry heavy armaments over long distances? No difference or should the men do the heavy lifting? Should only women that pass physical strength test be permitted in these roles? Seriously this is common sense, quit fighting it. |
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"No. No he won't. We'll stop it." | |
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| Drudge X | Feb 22 2018, 11:51 AM Post #16 |
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When will the military require female recruits to shave their heads like male recruits? |
| Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind. | |
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| Tsalagi | Feb 22 2018, 11:55 AM Post #17 |
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Wow, did you just totally twist my words or what..you wanna guess how many times my son has needed his strength to lead Combat Marines into battle? Again, physical strength really is irrevelent in an infantry officer...at what point do you think they'd need to rely on strength in a firefight? |
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| Tsalagi | Feb 22 2018, 11:55 AM Post #18 |
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Which has absolulutely nothing to do with the ability of a female to command infantrymen in combat. |
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| PATruth | Feb 22 2018, 12:04 PM Post #19 |
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Your obsession with political correctness overrides your common sense. Are you trying to become a liberal elitist? |
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"No. No he won't. We'll stop it." | |
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| Tsalagi | Feb 22 2018, 12:07 PM Post #20 |
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I know this is difficult but I really need you to buckle down and actually answer my question instead of deflecting or ignoring my statements, it'll make this conversation move much quicker and smoother. Has nothing to do with PC...I do not base my opinion on an officer's abilities solely on their ability to flex big biceps. |
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