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Russian ex-double agent who spied for UK exposed to unknown substance, ‘critically ill’– report
Topic Started: Mar 6 2018, 02:37 AM (737 Views)
Siberian
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Two people have been treated for "suspected exposure to an unknown substance" in the city of Salisbury, England, according to police. One of them is reportedly a former Russian double agent.

https://www.rt.com/news/420542-sergei-skripal-substance-incident-salisbury/
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Russian propaganda, I presume.... :)

but anyway betraying Mother Russia may and what is more imporrant - should make some harm to your health.... :lol:
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There are logical consequences for treason....American liberals have not learned this, yet............... :shakeshead:
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More than 20 people injured in ‘nerve agent incident’ involving ex-Russian double-agent – police

https://www.rt.com/uk/420822-people-injured-russian-double-agent/

Well, there are 2,5 possible explanations.

1) The West needs an excuse to impose new sanctions within its agressive policy towards Russia. Russiagate is exhausted and is crumbling without any evidence. CIA is notorious with false flag operations.
1,5) Ukraine wants to provoke the West to impose more sanctions on Russia.
2) If it is really Russia, while there is no evidence, or not more than one supporting previous versions - Putin may want to send a message. Or, to be precise - 2 messages: - to Russian oligarkhs that during war if they betray Russia they will be treated according to laws of war time
- To the West and specifically the UK, that the time of strategic patience and tolerance of Russia is gone, and harbouring various Chechen terrorists, Russian oigarkhs etc., i.e. posing threat to Russia - the UK takes complete responsibility for its citizens who may fell victims along with these enemies of Russia.

Obviously 20 affected people is direct spitting in British face, an open challenge, demonstration of new rules of the game.

of course if it is really Russia but not just your paranoya or my wishful thinking :) the scandal is too big to be really worth killing that miserable triator....

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Siberian
Mar 6 2018, 03:36 AM
Russian propaganda, I presume.... :)

but anyway betraying Mother Russia may and what is more imporrant - should make some harm to your health.... :lol:
But he was already pardoned by the Russian government for it.
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Mar 8 2018, 10:23 PM
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Mar 6 2018, 03:36 AM
Russian propaganda, I presume.... :)

but anyway betraying Mother Russia may and what is more imporrant - should make some harm to your health.... :lol:
But he was already pardoned by the Russian government for it.
The old MKV enjoyed telling prisoners that they were pardoned....While walking the happy fellow out of the prison, they shot him in the back of the head...At least he died happy............. :oyvey
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Mar 8 2018, 10:23 PM
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Mar 6 2018, 03:36 AM
Russian propaganda, I presume.... :)

but anyway betraying Mother Russia may and what is more imporrant - should make some harm to your health.... :lol:
But he was already pardoned by the Russian government for it.
exactly.
Why he? Why to kill exactly this pardonned spy if there are some other who made much more harm? Why to kill any ex double spy at all in the moment when new and new sanctions are adopted even without any real reason or Russia's acton, just because Russia "challenges the existing World order"?
If we asess motives and are not a common American zombies we must admit that it looks very much as alleged use of chemical weapons by Assad a couple of days before a UN commussion visit to Syria to establish if there was use of chemical weapons. :)
I.e. a provocation :)

But unlike American zombies we must consider all options, trying to find what could make Putin do it if it was really him.

I proposed my vision of his possible motive if it was him. :)
Besides, don't I have the right to dream of a strong leader instead of a soft piece of crap we have.? :)
Edited by Siberian, Mar 9 2018, 02:54 AM.
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or to dream of the West to put him in condition of, as we say "7 troubles - one response"
I mean when he will finally have to respond to Western agression since there is nothing to loose :)

The West is doing absolutely a great job of making Russian elite patriotic. :)
You cannot just imagine how much more Moscow has improved as a city after Ukraine and sanctions happened. In his last adress Putin was talking 1/2 time of economic reforms he starts and 1/2 of new advantages in arms we acquired :)
I expect Russia to boom in several years, as new buiseness-friendly environment has its effect. :)
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Mar 8 2018, 10:23 PM
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Mar 6 2018, 03:36 AM
Russian propaganda, I presume.... :)

but anyway betraying Mother Russia may and what is more imporrant - should make some harm to your health.... :lol:
But he was already pardoned by the Russian government for it.
I believe he was recently on FB suggesting that Putin should be jailed.
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Mar 6 2018, 03:36 AM
Russian propaganda, I presume.... :)

but anyway betraying Mother Russia may and what is more imporrant - should make some harm to your health.... :lol:
His brother and son died recently under what the family considers 'suspicious' circumstances... and one other thing... Litvenenko
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Mar 9 2018, 06:08 AM
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Mar 8 2018, 10:23 PM
Siberian
Mar 6 2018, 03:36 AM
Russian propaganda, I presume.... :)

but anyway betraying Mother Russia may and what is more imporrant - should make some harm to your health.... :lol:
But he was already pardoned by the Russian government for it.
I believe he was recently on FB suggesting that Putin should be jailed.
lol, indeed instead of preferring to see Putin hanging on the tree he opted for jail...
this triator must be punished for being too soft to an American agent Putin :)

you see, Jake, the main problem in the US is that not just you and most American zombies are blinded by stupid American propaganda, but also your establishment believes in own lie about Russia, which makes it completely inadequate.
Unlike in USSR we can say whatever we wish, at all, you can go to Kremlin gate and cry - Putin is a criminal - nobody will care much, maybe police will detain you for a couple of hours to check if you are sane or pose some danger to the people around, but generally we here enjoy much, much more freedom of speech than you do with your political correctness and other restrictions.
Our problem is that we don't influence decision making by the power, but it is your problem not less too :)
Edited by Siberian, Mar 9 2018, 07:27 AM.
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anyway, we see recently that the UK, as usual, decided to lick American ass running 2 steps ahead of the US in direction the boss chose.
I.e. it wioked hard destroying any common ground for Russia-US relations, accusing Russia of whatever they could invent, not missing a single chance to make any possible harm.
I presume the UK brought mutual relations to such a level that now whatever Russia does - relations cannot become worse, the bottom has been reached. Despite Russia did nothing to the UK.

So, who cares, was it Russia if it was not.
Now there are no evidnces, but I would welcone if it was Putin, I presume the UK must start paying the price for its agressiveness.
Though, I would start with business of course...
Edited by Siberian, Mar 9 2018, 07:37 AM.
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Mar 9 2018, 07:19 AM
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Mar 9 2018, 06:08 AM
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Mar 8 2018, 10:23 PM
Siberian
Mar 6 2018, 03:36 AM
Russian propaganda, I presume.... :)

but anyway betraying Mother Russia may and what is more imporrant - should make some harm to your health.... :lol:
But he was already pardoned by the Russian government for it.
I believe he was recently on FB suggesting that Putin should be jailed.
lol, indeed instead of preferring to see Putin hanging on the tree he opted for jail...
this triator must be punished for being too soft to an American agent Putin :)

you see, Jake, the main problem in the US is that not just you and most American zombies are blinded by stupid American propaganda, but also your establishment believes in own lie about Russia, which makes it completely inadequate.
Unlike in USSR we can say whatever we wish, at all, you can go to Kremlin gate and cry - Putin is a criminal - nobody will care much, maybe police will detain you for a couple of hours to check if you are sane or pose some danger to the people around, but generally we here enjoy much, much more freedom of speech than you do with your political correctness and other restrictions.
Our problem is that we don't influence decision making by the power, but it is your problem not less too :)
it's fascinating that you can blithely ignore the stack of bodies that Putin collects... doesn't matter how blatant it is... it must be American propaganda... just because... as you never have the slimmest of evidence other than something someone said on rt

most citizens don't have access to nerve agents, this is a state sponsored crime... which unfortunately has been committed in the UK before(Litvenenko and Berezovsky)... by agents connected to Putin

there's an election coming up and in case anyone has thoughts of saying something unkind about Stalin v2, here's a reminder that his tentacles are long... incl Skripal's daughter in this murder attempt takes it out of the realm of the ordinary

you can go to Kremlin gate and cry - Putin is a criminal - nobody will care much

yeah, about that, Nemtsov would like a word... well, he would if he wasn't already dead...

dude you get hammered here daily, your ability to accept humiliation is becoming legendary, how about posting something that's not a complete joke?

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Jake, calm down and leave putting your words in my mouth to Jar :)

What I said so far is that I consider any option and eould even welcome if it was Putin, since it would be a sign of a gisnt dhift in Putin's polucy and begavious from submission to the West to confronting it.
Believe me, you cannot find anyone in this forum who would be as happy as me to get sure it was Putin :)

so, exit your dream world, get more adeqyate and then we can jointly selebrate it, if finally any proofs are found thst it was Putin :)
so far - there are not, so let us keep our wishful thinking inside for a while...
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you seem not to understand that you cannot be humiliated by an inferior creature, but now you are informed :)
let alone I can put you 3-4 folds as an envilelop or do whatever I wish in any discussion if it is really discussion and not your imaginary universe :) you usually run and hide, what make you think you humiliates me thy this? maybe just if I beat a defenceless baby or an insane old man.... really, I did not consider this possubility... how old are you, Jake?

you doubt there is freedom of speech in Russia?
or even more, do you doubt we have more freedom.of speech in the US?

let us continue this discussion, join it, we'll see :)
enjoy some freedom to express your thoughts... :lol:

http://perspectives.com/topic/10445324/1/#new
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Mar 12 2018, 05:30 AM
Jake, calm down and leave putting your words in my mouth to Jar :)

What I said so far is that I consider any option and eould even welcome if it was Putin, since it would be a sign of a gisnt dhift in Putin's polucy and begavious from submission to the West to confronting it.
Believe me, you cannot find anyone in this forum who would be as happy as me to get sure it was Putin :)

so, exit your dream world, get more adeqyate and then we can jointly selebrate it, if finally any proofs are found thst it was Putin :)
so far - there are not, so let us keep our wishful thinking inside for a while...
Pretty sure Putin was in Russia the whole time so it was unlikely to be him. Pretty sure we can also safely say that this traces back to Russia so that's something for you to be happy about. The specific nerve agent has already been connected to Russia. What's new and different here is the attempted murder of the daughter who was unconnected to the espionage... bad form... not to mention crossing state borders to commit murder. Sovereign countries sort of frown on that - you wouldn't know about that living in the moral sh!thole that you live in.
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Mar 12 2018, 05:42 AM
you seem not to understand that you cannot be humiliated by an inferior creature, but now you are informed :)
let alone I can put you 3-4 folds as an envilelop or do whatever I wish in any discussion if it is really discussion and not your imaginary universe :) you usually run and hide, what make you think you humiliates me thy this? maybe just if I beat a defenceless baby or an insane old man.... really, I did not consider this possubility... how old are you, Jake?

you doubt there is freedom of speech in Russia?
or even more, do you doubt we have more freedom.of speech in the US?

let us continue this discussion, join it, we'll see :)
enjoy some freedom to express your thoughts... :lol:

http://perspectives.com/topic/10445324/1/#new
I'm not interested in discussing the heights of your anti-Semitism.
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Britain is our closest ally. When the agents of a foreign government commit murder on your homeland, it is considered an attack on national sovereignty. Such an attack on the nation that has been our closest ally for over two centuries demands some sort of response from the USA. That nothing has been said or done spotlights the curious refusal of the Trump administration to do or say anything that might offend Putin. Why is that?
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Jake, I am not going to overload your intellectual abilities, but what do you think, what may maje Syrian government to use chemical weapon against islamists just 1 day before the visit of the UN comission, whose decision can launch mikitary elimination of Assad? :)

or, why having numerous safe ways to kill that old double agent - just with a bullet, a knife, bare hands and numerouse poisons - Russia instead chose the exact chemical agent directly, which in the very instance it is detected points at USSR? :) - and consequently Russia..

I understand American zombies does nit think, they consume ready ideas and political posituins, but try just to think and answer the questions above.
for a change..

generally, I welcome of course any Western actiobs cornering Putin and leavibg him no choice but to accept the challenge, but so far I am still not sure he accepted it.

British claims are not convinsing at least, or laughable. Britts just, as usual, are a dog which anticipates wisges if its master.
the master wants war - then Britts bring war to the feet of the master.

poor useless double agents just fell victims of either British intelligence service or, most probably, CIA...

all Russian triators must be worried now. To keep hysteria alive CIA must keep making sacrifices....
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and it is my prediction - the US wants war - it will start one. very soon.

the general reason is that World power streams through American hands as sand.
in 5-6 years China will become the World bigest economy. In 10-15 years - the strongest military power. Russia is on the brink of becoming immune, i.e. unbeatable for conventional conflict. North Korea is on the brink of necoming immune in general. I.e. the World gets filed with powers who destroy Anerican hegemony.
Iran is not such a challenge yet, but Israeli master demands to start a war against it anyway and fast...

So, the US is corneed, it is already brough back into multipolar World it does not want so much.

There is just one last chance, maybe already lost one - to desperayely "do something", some miracle, a decisive step which will make America great again. - the War, since military aspect is the only one in which the US still keeps certain advantage. To make everybody afraid. some reckless adventure, a crazy act of violence.

so, Russiagate, Brutish poisoning, Iran, Syrian chemical weapons (Like Iraqi one, US elite is brainless and not creative + the zobie herd never learns) , Kim - everything, EVERYTHING is created inside the US, it is itching hands to trigger the war.


So, it will start very soon. Pompeo is a foreign minister of war, it is obvious.
the question is only when exactly, where and with whome. but I think soon, plus-minus several months.

as usual, if you want to know what is on USmind - look at the American doggy - the UK... it runs 2 steps ahead ...
Edited by Siberian, Mar 13 2018, 06:00 PM.
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