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BernieSanders has the numbers to become a stand alone Progressive Party.....What's stopping him?
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Topic Started: Mar 19 2018, 01:51 AM (426 Views)
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Mar 21 2018, 10:30 PM
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Well, we have been over that and at the time that was the price of a lot of Sanders voters (some on here) wanted. Again. If Sanders gets the nomination (and I may well vote for him in the primary) I don’t plan to require anyone to kiss my a$$ for my vote. Fair enough?
*shrug* We'll see when the time comes. But if you try to foist another Clinton off on us, after having stacked the deck illegitimately in their favor, don't be surprised if we decide to do otherwise.
I get it, you want Sanders or your support defaults to Trump. At least have the balls to admit it. For my part, I’ll commit to vote for the Democrat nominated regardless if it’s Sanders or someone else that earns the nomination. I’m not cutting off my nose to spite my face.
No, that's what you hear, but that's not what I've said. There are any number of other candidates that will do. But when it comes time to elect one through the primary, don't freaking rig the primary to ensure the candidate we absolutely hate the most gets handed the win on a silver platter, and then treat us like we're being children throwing a tantrum when we object. Stop being so arrogant and self righteous. In reality....There is already three party's capable of getting a President elected....GOP and Dem's are two recognised....But Bernie's Progressives....are a real challenge to take the Dem's spot making the Dem's a third party....
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Mar 22 2018, 06:13 AM
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by “Democrat Elitist” do you mean someone that refuses to support Trumps theft of our country with the aid of Vladimir Putin? I don’t support Putin’s butler. Because son, that is the only thing that matters. Kicking him to the curb in 2020.
NO!....I mean “Democrat Elitist” as in "Arrogant Elite Democrats"....Is that plain enough for you?
It’s hard not to appear superior when you are talking to a Trumpster.. You have my condolences if I make you feel inadequate.
"Arrogant Elite Democrats"....You've proved my point....Thank's.... It’s easy to appear elite, magnificent even, when you are interacting with Trumpsters. I’m not elite, but I shine like the New Mexico desert sun compared to one of those.
And thank you for helping to illustrate that point
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Mar 22 2018, 06:15 AM
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It’s up to the Sanders voters to decide what they want to do. It isn’t up to anyone to kiss their asses as some demanded in the last election. Cooperation is a two way street. We know what happens and who will be elected if the forces against Trump are splintered. I don’t agree with all of Sanders positions. Many, most maybe, but not all. But I won’t be demanding anyone to kiss my ass for my vote of Sanders wins the Democratic nomination. He gets it if he wins the nomination. Period, No qualifiers.
Sounds like main stream Democrats still haven't learned their lesson. Guess we'll see what happens come election time, but I have to say running down progressives is not a good way to gain their votes.
He gets my vote without qualifications if he’s the nominee. I haven’t ruled out voting for him in the NJ primary either. As of this day, right now, I would vote for him in the primary. Would you prefer that I refuse to vote for him unless you kiss my a$$? Wtf more do you want?
Well congrats. Who anyone chooses to vote or not vote for is no one else's business. Well, we all share in the consequences. President Trump is the consequence of the third party muckfest that elected Trump.
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Mar 22 2018, 06:23 AM
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Well, we have been over that and at the time that was the price of a lot of Sanders voters (some on here) wanted. Again. If Sanders gets the nomination (and I may well vote for him in the primary) I don’t plan to require anyone to kiss my a$$ for my vote. Fair enough?
*shrug* We'll see when the time comes. But if you try to foist another Clinton off on us, after having stacked the deck illegitimately in their favor, don't be surprised if we decide to do otherwise.
I get it, you want Sanders or your support defaults to Trump. At least have the balls to admit it. For my part, I’ll commit to vote for the Democrat nominated regardless if it’s Sanders or someone else that earns the nomination. I’m not cutting off my nose to spite my face.
No, that's what you hear, but that's not what I've said. There are any number of other candidates that will do. But when it comes time to elect one through the primary, don't freaking rig the primary to ensure the candidate we absolutely hate the most gets handed the win on a silver platter, and then treat us like we're being children throwing a tantrum when we object. Stop being so arrogant and self righteous. I’ve committed to voting for the best chance to sit Trump on the curb at every opportunity that I have. I did that in the last election and I’ll do it in the next one. What more do you want?
You are the guy that brought up your hurt feelings in the first place in this thread (go back and look) I’m not the one that started that conversation. I am tired of hearing about how your people’s hurt feelings are the reason that you cut your noses off in spite. I didn’t cut off your nose. You cut it off, figuratively speaking I hope.
Now, let’s buckle down and at least agree that the most important thing is to retire Trump from the terrible job he is doing to this country.
I’ve pledged to vote against him voting for who I consider to be the best chance to beat him at each opportunity I have. Are you willing to do the same thing?
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Mar 22 2018, 06:58 AM
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I would respectfully suggest that the Democrats a) not attempt to sabotage the primary of whoever isn't the "mainstream" pick, and b) stop bad mouthing Bernie's supporters and then expecting them to support the Democratic candidate anyway. Mainstream Democrats have a decision to make this time around. They can either look for common ground with the more progressive side of the house or they can do what they did last time, which was to piss them off by demeaning them and attempting to cheat their candidate out of a primary victory, and then expecting them to get energized and show up in droves for a candidate they didn't want and believe was foisted on them through an illegitimate process.
It’s up to the Sanders voters to decide what they want to do. It isn’t up to anyone to kiss their asses as some demanded in the last election. Cooperation is a two way street. We know what happens and who will be elected if the forces against Trump are splintered. I don’t agree with all of Sanders positions. Many, most maybe, but not all. But I won’t be demanding anyone to kiss my ass for my vote of Sanders wins the Democratic nomination. He gets it if he wins the nomination. Period, No qualifiers.
Sounds like main stream Democrats still haven't learned their lesson. Guess we'll see what happens come election time, but I have to say running down progressives is not a good way to gain their votes.
He gets my vote without qualifications if he’s the nominee. I haven’t ruled out voting for him in the NJ primary either. As of this day, right now, I would vote for him in the primary. Would you prefer that I refuse to vote for him unless you kiss my a$$? Wtf more do you want? I think what they're asking for is a seat at the party table and not to be treated like second class party insurgents. Telling Progressives to " shut up and sit down" is a pretty piss poor strategy for winning hearts and minds.
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Mar 22 2018, 11:08 AM
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Sounds like main stream Democrats still haven't learned their lesson. Guess we'll see what happens come election time, but I have to say running down progressives is not a good way to gain their votes.
He gets my vote without qualifications if he’s the nominee. I haven’t ruled out voting for him in the NJ primary either. As of this day, right now, I would vote for him in the primary. Would you prefer that I refuse to vote for him unless you kiss my a$$? Wtf more do you want?
Well congrats. Who anyone chooses to vote or not vote for is no one else's business.
Well, we all share in the consequences. President Trump is the consequence of the third party muckfest that elected Trump. Having only one vote sucks, don’t it?
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Mar 22 2018, 12:04 PM
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It’s up to the Sanders voters to decide what they want to do. It isn’t up to anyone to kiss their asses as some demanded in the last election. Cooperation is a two way street. We know what happens and who will be elected if the forces against Trump are splintered. I don’t agree with all of Sanders positions. Many, most maybe, but not all. But I won’t be demanding anyone to kiss my ass for my vote of Sanders wins the Democratic nomination. He gets it if he wins the nomination. Period, No qualifiers.
Sounds like main stream Democrats still haven't learned their lesson. Guess we'll see what happens come election time, but I have to say running down progressives is not a good way to gain their votes.
He gets my vote without qualifications if he’s the nominee. I haven’t ruled out voting for him in the NJ primary either. As of this day, right now, I would vote for him in the primary. Would you prefer that I refuse to vote for him unless you kiss my a$$? Wtf more do you want?
I think what they're asking for is a seat at the party table and not to be treated like second class party insurgents. Telling Progressives to " shut up and sit down" is a pretty piss poor strategy for winning hearts and minds. Exactly.
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