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Topic Started: Apr 3 2018, 07:19 AM (650 Views)
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Not defending the cost..only the attempt...we Republicans have had controlling numbers in untold numbers of Congresses over the years..and did virtually nothing to resolve healthcare issues, would you not agree.
The attempt? So they flat out lied to the American people to get it passed, wasted countless billions of dollars in startup costs, took away basic healthcare plans that people relied on, handed billions to health insurance companies, cost US companies billions in compliance and you want to pat them on the back for their attempts?
I wan to think them for at least trying...we have done nothing....you've managed to slide right over my statement bout us in control of Congress multiple times over the last 30 years...and have done....exactly what to reduce costs or to aid our fellow man? As far as handing over billions to insurance carriers....that's what our guys wanted right...let the money go to the private sector....the Democrats would have wanted Universal Payor and be done with the issue.
So the wait and see guy wants to award brownie points for "trying"..... Everybody gets a medal for trying, that's the liberal way.
I'm hoping I'll get "duped" again. My taxes are lower, my 410K is way up, American companies are finally competitive again, thousands of worthless Obama regulations have been eliminated, billions of dollars coming home, the economy is booming and we may finally put an end to the illegal invasion!
Why does getting "duped" feels sooooooo good!
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Apr 3 2018, 12:55 PM
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The damage that has been done to our Representative Republic / Democracy by this President and his conservative followers is disgusting and unless the public rejects it and journalists decide to do their job our nation, this Democracy will face its decline. It's already started.
Yep. Chances are I’ll not live long enough to see the rehabilitation of the country that will be necessary after he gets done abusing it. It’ll happen though.
That’s what many said of Julius Caesar. Even He died, Fashy. None of these despots last forever.
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The attempt? So they flat out lied to the American people to get it passed, wasted countless billions of dollars in startup costs, took away basic healthcare plans that people relied on, handed billions to health insurance companies, cost US companies billions in compliance and you want to pat them on the back for their attempts?
I wan to think them for at least trying...we have done nothing....you've managed to slide right over my statement bout us in control of Congress multiple times over the last 30 years...and have done....exactly what to reduce costs or to aid our fellow man? As far as handing over billions to insurance carriers....that's what our guys wanted right...let the money go to the private sector....the Democrats would have wanted Universal Payor and be done with the issue.
So the wait and see guy wants to award brownie points for "trying".....
Everybody gets a medal for trying, that's the liberal way. I'm hoping I'll get "duped" again. My taxes are lower, my 410K is way up, American companies are finally competitive again, thousands of worthless Obama regulations have been eliminated, billions of dollars coming home, the economy is booming and we may finally put an end to the illegal invasion! Why does getting "duped" feels sooooooo good! Why does it feel so gooood to you?
I would have to say it’s because you have been busy preparing your anus
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Apr 3 2018, 12:57 PM
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The damage that has been done to our Representative Republic / Democracy by this President and his conservative followers is disgusting and unless the public rejects it and journalists decide to do their job our nation, this Democracy will face its decline. It's already started.
Yep. Chances are I’ll not live long enough to see the rehabilitation of the country that will be necessary after he gets done abusing it. It’ll happen though.
That’s what many said of Julius Caesar.
Even He died, Fashy. None of these despots last forever. And Trump is in his seventies. This is far more than one man.
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The damage that has been done to our Representative Republic / Democracy by this President and his conservative followers is disgusting and unless the public rejects it and journalists decide to do their job our nation, this Democracy will face its decline. It's already started.
Yep. Chances are I’ll not live long enough to see the rehabilitation of the country that will be necessary after he gets done abusing it. It’ll happen though. It will take better than a generation to put this nation right again. We are sinking to the lowest point of our Republic to match the lowest point of American conservatism and like you it will not be repaired in my lifetime.
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Yep. Chances are I’ll not live long enough to see the rehabilitation of the country that will be necessary after he gets done abusing it. It’ll happen though.
That’s what many said of Julius Caesar.
Even He died, Fashy. None of these despots last forever.
And Trump is in his seventies. This is far more than one man. No, it’s not. He’s a fluke that has taken full advantage of a willing bunch of fools. (Dupes) It’s a true personality cult in Trumps case. Once he’s gone it’s over.
November will be coming soon. That’s when we get the first indication of where this goes from year two.
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The damage that has been done to our Representative Republic / Democracy by this President and his conservative followers is disgusting and unless the public rejects it and journalists decide to do their job our nation, this Democracy will face its decline. It's already started.
Yep. Chances are I’ll not live long enough to see the rehabilitation of the country that will be necessary after he gets done abusing it. It’ll happen though.
It will take better than a generation to put this nation right again. We are sinking to the lowest point of our Republic to match the lowest point of American conservatism and like you it will not be repaired in my lifetime. I take faith in the long term. I think the new people that are being used by trump, not the ones supporting him, but the rest have had time to digest what their inaction has brought upon them. It’ll be time to act on that in a few short months.
Immigrants and children will be filling the voids that death will create. It won’t be more Trumpsters.
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The damage that has been done to our Representative Republic / Democracy by this President and his conservative followers is disgusting and unless the public rejects it and journalists decide to do their job our nation, this Democracy will face its decline. It's already started.
Yep. Chances are I’ll not live long enough to see the rehabilitation of the country that will be necessary after he gets done abusing it. It’ll happen though.
It will take better than a generation to put this nation right again. We are sinking to the lowest point of our Republic to match the lowest point of American conservatism and like you it will not be repaired in my lifetime. The next five generations are going to be punished because of the left's spending habits. Your social security, Medicare, Medicaid, ObamaCare and government pensions Ponzi schemes are coming due. Young people owe 30 to 50 trillion dollars in unfunded liabilities and time is running out. If our young snowflakes want to add ten million illiterate peasants to the welfare roles, give everyone free healthcare and free college have at it, they will pay dearly. These schemes are so large and so costly you will NEVER tax the rich to dig yourselves out of debt. THe Venezuela solution never works. If the left wins the next couple elections which is likely, look for the wealthy to start moving their money offshore. There is no doubt the left will tax our country into a recession. Good thing it won't effect me!
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Not defending the cost..only the attempt...we Republicans have had controlling numbers in untold numbers of Congresses over the years..and did virtually nothing to resolve healthcare issues, would you not agree.
The attempt? So they flat out lied to the American people to get it passed, wasted countless billions of dollars in startup costs, took away basic healthcare plans that people relied on, handed billions to health insurance companies, cost US companies billions in compliance and you want to pat them on the back for their attempts?
I wan to think them for at least trying...we have done nothing....you've managed to slide right over my statement bout us in control of Congress multiple times over the last 30 years...and have done....exactly what to reduce costs or to aid our fellow man? As far as handing over billions to insurance carriers....that's what our guys wanted right...let the money go to the private sector....the Democrats would have wanted Universal Payor and be done with the issue.
So the wait and see guy wants to award brownie points for "trying"..... Yes..because in decades of GOP Congressional dominance what did we do? So yes..they at least tried something Our record is what?
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The attempt? So they flat out lied to the American people to get it passed, wasted countless billions of dollars in startup costs, took away basic healthcare plans that people relied on, handed billions to health insurance companies, cost US companies billions in compliance and you want to pat them on the back for their attempts?
I wan to think them for at least trying...we have done nothing....you've managed to slide right over my statement bout us in control of Congress multiple times over the last 30 years...and have done....exactly what to reduce costs or to aid our fellow man? As far as handing over billions to insurance carriers....that's what our guys wanted right...let the money go to the private sector....the Democrats would have wanted Universal Payor and be done with the issue.
So the wait and see guy wants to award brownie points for "trying".....
Yes..because in decades of GOP Congressional dominance what did we do? So yes..they at least tried something Our record is what? Maybe you're missing the point, ObamaCare made a better system even harder to accomplish. Undoing ObamaCare is going to be very difficult. I thought you were in the healthcare field?
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I wan to think them for at least trying...we have done nothing....you've managed to slide right over my statement bout us in control of Congress multiple times over the last 30 years...and have done....exactly what to reduce costs or to aid our fellow man? As far as handing over billions to insurance carriers....that's what our guys wanted right...let the money go to the private sector....the Democrats would have wanted Universal Payor and be done with the issue.
So the wait and see guy wants to award brownie points for "trying".....
Yes..because in decades of GOP Congressional dominance what did we do? So yes..they at least tried something Our record is what?
Maybe you're missing the point, ObamaCare made a better system even harder to accomplish. Undoing ObamaCare is going to be very difficult. I thought you were in the healthcare field? Yes.. and seeing patients with any kind of insurance was preferable to them not coming in because they didnt have jobs like ours with the ability to pay.
No PA the point is, long before the ACA we could have done anything. We choose not to
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The healthcare problems we have today are due to sabotage PA. You know it and I know it.
Effem? No... eff......uhhh...
BS, OBlunderCare was a failure out of the gate. How about those co-ops? Are any still operational? Did the GOP kill those? It was a pile of sheit based on a mountain of lies, that is a fact. You folks got Grubered and you won't admit it.
Your right...billions squandered needlessly...you won't get any argument from me..on the same token....as far as lies.....we've spent Trillions in Iraq based on the mother of all lies...and while millions may have lost insurance...1000 of my Marine brothers and 3000 Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen reported into their final posting long before they should have. Afghanistan is STILL our longest running war, lost past the Vietnam comparison...and yet...the Marines just went BACK into Helmand province... You defend war. You're to blame.
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So the wait and see guy wants to award brownie points for "trying".....
Yes..because in decades of GOP Congressional dominance what did we do? So yes..they at least tried something Our record is what?
Maybe you're missing the point, ObamaCare made a better system even harder to accomplish. Undoing ObamaCare is going to be very difficult. I thought you were in the healthcare field?
Yes.. and seeing patients with any kind of insurance was preferable to them not coming in because they didnt have jobs like ours with the ability to pay. No PA the point is, long before the ACA we could have done anything. We choose not to Doing nothing is preferable to doing something that makes the situation worse. Thanks to ObamaCare colleges can no longer offer basic, cheap insurance for students. Young people can't buy basic plans, men have to buy prenatal care. WTF? Then, factor in the absurd ObamaCare deductibles and we've taken a step back. Now factor in the HUGE amount of insurance subsidies and you have health insurance that's far more expensive than before ObamaCare. ObamaCare is not affordable care. It's a full blown disaster, follow the cost of Medicaid over the next ten years. Ouch!
The one thing you can count on with government is we will never get the fully loaded costs, if we did there would be a revolution.
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Yes..because in decades of GOP Congressional dominance what did we do? So yes..they at least tried something Our record is what?
Maybe you're missing the point, ObamaCare made a better system even harder to accomplish. Undoing ObamaCare is going to be very difficult. I thought you were in the healthcare field?
Yes.. and seeing patients with any kind of insurance was preferable to them not coming in because they didnt have jobs like ours with the ability to pay. No PA the point is, long before the ACA we could have done anything. We choose not to
Doing nothing is preferable to doing something that makes the situation worse. Thanks to ObamaCare colleges can no longer offer basic, cheap insurance for students. Young people can't buy basic plans, men have to buy prenatal care. WTF? Then, factor in the absurd ObamaCare deductibles and we've taken a step back. Now factor in the HUGE amount of insurance subsidies and you have health insurance that's far more expensive than before ObamaCare. ObamaCare is not affordable care. It's a full blown disaster, follow the cost of Medicaid over the next ten years. Ouch! The one thing you can count on with government is we will never get the fully loaded costs, if we did there would be a revolution. The fruits of your sabotage
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The damage that has been done to our Representative Republic / Democracy by this President and his conservative followers is disgusting and unless the public rejects it and journalists decide to do their job our nation, this Democracy will face its decline. It's already started.
Yep. Chances are I’ll not live long enough to see the rehabilitation of the country that will be necessary after he gets done abusing it. It’ll happen though. Your kind needs to go.
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The damage that has been done to our Representative Republic / Democracy by this President and his conservative followers is disgusting and unless the public rejects it and journalists decide to do their job our nation, this Democracy will face its decline. It's already started.
Yep. Chances are I’ll not live long enough to see the rehabilitation of the country that will be necessary after he gets done abusing it. It’ll happen though.
It will take better than a generation to put this nation right again. We are sinking to the lowest point of our Republic to match the lowest point of American conservatism and like you it will not be repaired in my lifetime.
The next five generations are going to be punished because of the left's spending habits. Your social security, Medicare, Medicaid, ObamaCare and government pensions Ponzi schemes are coming due. Young people owe 30 to 50 trillion dollars in unfunded liabilities and time is running out. If our young snowflakes want to add ten million illiterate peasants to the welfare roles, give everyone free healthcare and free college have at it, they will pay dearly. These schemes are so large and so costly you will NEVER tax the rich to dig yourselves out of debt. THe Venezuela solution never works. If the left wins the next couple elections which is likely, look for the wealthy to start moving their money offshore. There is no doubt the left will tax our country into a recession. Good thing it won't effect me! Your fantasies and ill spent anger aside, you clearly have no idea what is at stake, what I am addressing and perhaps that explains why the nation is going to hell under this President.
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The damage that has been done to our Representative Republic / Democracy by this President and his conservative followers is disgusting and unless the public rejects it and journalists decide to do their job our nation, this Democracy will face its decline. It's already started.
Yep. Chances are I’ll not live long enough to see the rehabilitation of the country that will be necessary after he gets done abusing it. It’ll happen though.
You're kind needs to go. We all go. To be replaced by others with ideas more fitting to the lives they will live. In this case it will be a vacuum filled by the young and by immigrants.
I’m good with that.
And you....can’t stop it
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Yep. Chances are I’ll not live long enough to see the rehabilitation of the country that will be necessary after he gets done abusing it. It’ll happen though.
It will take better than a generation to put this nation right again. We are sinking to the lowest point of our Republic to match the lowest point of American conservatism and like you it will not be repaired in my lifetime.
The next five generations are going to be punished because of the left's spending habits. Your social security, Medicare, Medicaid, ObamaCare and government pensions Ponzi schemes are coming due. Young people owe 30 to 50 trillion dollars in unfunded liabilities and time is running out. If our young snowflakes want to add ten million illiterate peasants to the welfare roles, give everyone free healthcare and free college have at it, they will pay dearly. These schemes are so large and so costly you will NEVER tax the rich to dig yourselves out of debt. THe Venezuela solution never works. If the left wins the next couple elections which is likely, look for the wealthy to start moving their money offshore. There is no doubt the left will tax our country into a recession. Good thing it won't effect me!
Your fantasies and ill spent anger aside, you clearly have no idea what is at stake, what I am addressing and perhaps that explains why the nation is going to hell under this President. The economy and working people are better off under Trump than they've been in decades. The only ones that may suffer are illegal criminals. I realize illegal criminals are your only concern so it's OK that you're depressed, the rest of us are enjoying the temporary prosperity.
That said your Ponzi schemes are running out of time, the debt, the unfunded promises, the trillions already spent and replace with IOU's is going to take it's toll. It's a numbers game, liberals can lie about the numbers but they won't get away with it. Crunch time is coming and you can't stop it or tax you way around it. I'll enjoy the calamity!
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It will take better than a generation to put this nation right again. We are sinking to the lowest point of our Republic to match the lowest point of American conservatism and like you it will not be repaired in my lifetime.
The next five generations are going to be punished because of the left's spending habits. Your social security, Medicare, Medicaid, ObamaCare and government pensions Ponzi schemes are coming due. Young people owe 30 to 50 trillion dollars in unfunded liabilities and time is running out. If our young snowflakes want to add ten million illiterate peasants to the welfare roles, give everyone free healthcare and free college have at it, they will pay dearly. These schemes are so large and so costly you will NEVER tax the rich to dig yourselves out of debt. THe Venezuela solution never works. If the left wins the next couple elections which is likely, look for the wealthy to start moving their money offshore. There is no doubt the left will tax our country into a recession. Good thing it won't effect me!
Your fantasies and ill spent anger aside, you clearly have no idea what is at stake, what I am addressing and perhaps that explains why the nation is going to hell under this President.
The economy and working people are better off under Trump than they've been in decades. The only ones that may suffer are illegal criminals. I realize illegal criminals are your only concern so it's OK that you're depressed, the rest of us are enjoying the temporary prosperity. That said your Ponzi schemes are running out of time, the debt, the unfunded promises, the trillions already spent and replace with IOU's is going to take it's toll. It's a numbers game, liberals can lie about the numbers but they won't get away with it. Crunch time is coming and you can't stop it or tax you way around it. I'll enjoy the calamity! Robbing from the poor. That’s what is happening.
Prepare your anus.
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Trump is rehabilitating this country after years of doing nothing by Clinton, Bush, and Obama. There is no question about that. Leftists' butt are hurting. Stay tuned..
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Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind.
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