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Trump wants to pull troops from Syria 'as quickly as possible,' but it won't be very quick
Topic Started: Apr 16 2018, 11:44 AM (101 Views)
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US President Donald Trump wants to bring troops back from Syria as soon as possible, the White House said, but not before their goals are fulfilled. Earlier, the French president said he had convinced Trump the troops had to stay.


"The US mission has not changed – the president has been clear that he wants US forces to come home as quickly as possible," White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders said in a statement cited by Reuters. The US has some 2,000 troops and a number of military contractors acting in Syria. Before they go home, though, their mission has to be fulfilled.

"We are determined to completely crush ISIS and create the conditions that will prevent its return. In addition, we expect our regional allies and partners to take greater responsibility both militarily and financially for securing the region," Sanders said.
Edited by _g R_, Apr 16 2018, 11:45 AM.
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Now the truth emerges: how the US fueled the rise of Isis in Syria and Iraq...

The war on terror, that campaign without end launched 14 years ago by George Bush, is tying itself up in ever more grotesque contortions. On Monday the trial in London of a Swedish man, Bherlin Gildo, accused of terrorism in Syria, collapsed after it became clear British intelligence had been arming the same rebel groups the defendant was charged with supporting.

The prosecution abandoned the case, apparently to avoid embarrassing the intelligence services. The defence argued that going ahead with the trial would have been an “affront to justice” when there was plenty of evidence the British state was itself providing “extensive support” to the armed Syrian opposition.

That didn’t only include the “non-lethal assistance” boasted of by the government (including body armour and military vehicles), but training, logistical support and the secret supply of “arms on a massive scale”. Reports were cited that MI6 had cooperated with the CIA on a “rat line” of arms transfers from Libyan stockpiles to the Syrian rebels in 2012 after the fall of the Gaddafi regime.

Clearly, the absurdity of sending someone to prison for doing what ministers and their security officials were up to themselves became too much. But it’s only the latest of a string of such cases. Less fortunate was a London cab driver Anis Sardar, who was given a life sentence a fortnight earlier for taking part in 2007 in resistance to the occupation of Iraq by US and British forces. Armed opposition to illegal invasion and occupation clearly doesn’t constitute terrorism or murder on most definitions, including the Geneva convention.
But terrorism is now squarely in the eye of the beholder. And nowhere is that more so than in the Middle East, where today’s terrorists are tomorrow’s fighters against tyranny – and allies are enemies – often at the bewildering whim of a western policymaker’s conference call.

For the past year, US, British and other western forces have been back in Iraq, supposedly in the cause of destroying the hyper-sectarian terror group Islamic State (formerly known as al-Qaida in Iraq). This was after Isis overran huge chunks of Iraqi and Syrian territory and proclaimed a self-styled Islamic caliphate.

The campaign isn’t going well. Last month, Isis rolled into the Iraqi city of Ramadi, while on the other side of the now nonexistent border its forces conquered the Syrian town of Palmyra. Al-Qaida’s official franchise, the Nusra Front, has also been making gains in Syria.

Some Iraqis complain that the US sat on its hands while all this was going on. The Americans insist they are trying to avoid civilian casualties, and claim significant successes. Privately, officials say they don’t want to be seen hammering Sunni strongholds in a sectarian war and risk upsetting their Sunni allies in the Gulf.

A revealing light on how we got here has now been shone by a recently declassified secret US intelligence report, written in August 2012, which uncannily predicts – and effectively welcomes – the prospect of a “Salafist principality” in eastern Syria and an al-Qaida-controlled Islamic state in Syria and Iraq. In stark contrast to western claims at the time, the Defense Intelligence Agency document identifies al-Qaida in Iraq (which became Isis) and fellow Salafists as the “major forces driving the insurgency in Syria” – and states that “western countries, the Gulf states and Turkey” were supporting the opposition’s efforts to take control of eastern Syria.

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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis-syria-iraq

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_ieErBsjnE&t=546s

Edited by _g R_, Apr 16 2018, 11:57 AM.
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If Iran and Israel continue to escalate their proxy war in Syria, Uncle Sam will find himself with his boots nailed to the floor again. Iran has built a coalition that stretches through Iraq, Syria and Lebanon as well as down the Gulf to Yemen. The US-Saudi-Israel coalition is enormously wealthy and powerful it has the problem of the man with one hoe and two rattlesnakes. In this case, there are more than two snakes and while, the Israel coalition can win every battle, it cannot end the war. A direct invasion of Iran might do it, I suppose, but Iran is as big as Alaska and has strong backing from Russia plus God knows what else. The Persians plan ahead. We don't.
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Whose side these warlord groups are on shifts as quickly as the sands in the desert....Much depends on who is offering the best deal in money and armaments on any particular day...Ethnic affiliation is no guarantee of loyalty....The USA should withdraw from the games these people play....Leave Syria to the strongest thugs........... :shakeshead:
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Apr 16 2018, 11:36 PM
Whose side these warlord groups are on shifts as quickly as the sands in the desert....Much depends on who is offering the best deal in money and armaments on any particular day...Ethnic affiliation is no guarantee of loyalty....The USA should withdraw from the games these people play....Leave Syria to the strongest thugs........... :shakeshead:
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Trump is coordinating with Assad and Putin.

The goal is to decimate the last ISIS/DeepState/CIA (chemical attack sources) Strongholds in Syria and surrounding regions.

We are pulling out. Wouldn't you like to know when.......
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Trump isn't "coordinating" with Assad and Putin, he is surrendering to Iran. ISIS wasn't an enemy of the US, they are a proxy army of Saudi and our bulwark against Iran. Can't tell the players without a scorecard.
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Apr 17 2018, 04:11 PM
Trump isn't "coordinating" with Assad and Putin, he is surrendering to Iran. ISIS wasn't an enemy of the US, they are a proxy army of Saudi and our bulwark against Iran. Can't tell the players without a scorecard.
Stop playing their games...We no longer need oil from the Middle East....Get out !!!!!.................. :oyvey
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Apr 17 2018, 04:11 PM
Trump isn't "coordinating" with Assad and Putin, he is surrendering to Iran. ISIS wasn't an enemy of the US, they are a proxy army of Saudi and our bulwark against Iran. Can't tell the players without a scorecard.
You can't handle the score card George. You certainly don't have it.
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Apr 17 2018, 04:20 PM
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Apr 17 2018, 04:11 PM
Trump isn't "coordinating" with Assad and Putin, he is surrendering to Iran. ISIS wasn't an enemy of the US, they are a proxy army of Saudi and our bulwark against Iran. Can't tell the players without a scorecard.
You can't handle the score card George. You certainly don't have it.
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We shouldn't be involved with Syria to begin with. When are we going to stop pretending to be the world police?
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