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Deputies: 30 rounds fired from AR-15 in deadly Florida home invasion
Topic Started: Apr 18 2018, 12:39 AM (271 Views)
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https://www.news4jax.com/news/30-rounds-fired-by-ar15-in-florida-home-invasion-shootout

GLEN ST. MARY, Fla - Three men say they were asleep inside a mobile home in Glen St. Mary about 4 a.m. Sunday when they heard a voice outside yell “Sheriff’s Office!” before the front door burst open.

In stormed a masked gunman who fired off a single round before two of the men inside, one armed with an AR-15 rifle and the other with a handgun, emerged from two bedrooms and opened fire.

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Five people are charged in the case. Investigators suspect the home invasion escalated from an ongoing feud between two groups that was stoked by social media threats.
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Well, this is definitely a case of "Wrong house motherf******".

Personally I still think a shotgun would have been more effective at home defense but the AR got the job done.

To be honest this is a really sad case. These are very young people who are facing a mandatory 20 year sentence for using a firearm in the commission of a felony. They may also face felony murder charges due to the death of one of their number.

Obviously we have some parenting issues here too because what the heck were a 15 and 16 year old doing running the roads at 4am?

Due to our self defense laws the people in the house will face no charges over the shooting unless they had some other criminal going on in the house.

It is a shame all around.
Edited by Demagogue, Apr 18 2018, 12:54 AM.
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Apr 18 2018, 12:45 AM
Five people are charged in the case. Investigators suspect the home invasion escalated from an ongoing feud between two groups that was stoked by social media threats.
Yeah, incredibly stupid reason to assault someone's house at 4am while wearing a mask. That kind of thing can and did get one of them killed.

On the bright side, thanks to social media the cops know what the motive was.
Edited by Demagogue, Apr 18 2018, 12:51 AM.
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Apr 18 2018, 12:48 AM
Well, this is definitely a car of "Wrong house motherf******".

Personally I still think a shotgun would have been more effective at home defense but the AR got the job done.

To be honest this is a really sad case. These are very young people who are facing a mandatory 20 year sentence for using a firearm in the commission of a felony. They may also face felony murder charges due to the death of one of their number.

Obviously we have some parenting issues here too because what the heck were a 15 and 16 year old doing running the roads at 4am?

Due to our self defense laws the people in the house will face no charges over the shooting unless they had some other criminal going on in the house.

It is a shame all around.
Officer....officer....I saw the whole thing....The gun did it.... :oyvey
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Apr 18 2018, 12:53 AM
Demagogue
Apr 18 2018, 12:48 AM
Well, this is definitely a car of "Wrong house motherf******".

Personally I still think a shotgun would have been more effective at home defense but the AR got the job done.

To be honest this is a really sad case. These are very young people who are facing a mandatory 20 year sentence for using a firearm in the commission of a felony. They may also face felony murder charges due to the death of one of their number.

Obviously we have some parenting issues here too because what the heck were a 15 and 16 year old doing running the roads at 4am?

Due to our self defense laws the people in the house will face no charges over the shooting unless they had some other criminal going on in the house.

It is a shame all around.
Officer....officer....I saw the whole thing....The gun did it.... :oyvey
This time it appears that the AR was fighting for the "good guys"

The article title is funny though. Why is it not residents successfully defend home from armed intruders?
Edited by Demagogue, Apr 18 2018, 12:58 AM.
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Apr 18 2018, 12:50 AM
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Apr 18 2018, 12:45 AM
Five people are charged in the case. Investigators suspect the home invasion escalated from an ongoing feud between two groups that was stoked by social media threats.
Yeah, incredibly stupid reason to assault someone's house at 4am while wearing a mask. That kind of thing can and did get one of them killed.

On the bright side, thanks to social media the cops know what the motive was.
I see that you are trying to spin this as some patriot porn but this seems more of a cautionary tale about how internet chest beating and guns are a bad mix.
Suppose one of those rounds fired by the homeowners went through a wall and into another house, killing someone not involved in their little feud.
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Apr 18 2018, 12:56 AM
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Apr 18 2018, 12:53 AM
Demagogue
Apr 18 2018, 12:48 AM
Well, this is definitely a car of "Wrong house motherf******".

Personally I still think a shotgun would have been more effective at home defense but the AR got the job done.

To be honest this is a really sad case. These are very young people who are facing a mandatory 20 year sentence for using a firearm in the commission of a felony. They may also face felony murder charges due to the death of one of their number.

Obviously we have some parenting issues here too because what the heck were a 15 and 16 year old doing running the roads at 4am?

Due to our self defense laws the people in the house will face no charges over the shooting unless they had some other criminal going on in the house.

It is a shame all around.
Officer....officer....I saw the whole thing....The gun did it.... :oyvey
This time it appears that the AR was fighting for the "good guys"
The specifics of the feud here wasn't fully explained.
Maybe the "good guys" weren't angels in this matter.
You may be a conservative republican..if you are pro life until you get your mistress knocked up
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Apr 18 2018, 12:56 AM
Demagogue
Apr 18 2018, 12:50 AM
Mr. Tik
Apr 18 2018, 12:45 AM
Five people are charged in the case. Investigators suspect the home invasion escalated from an ongoing feud between two groups that was stoked by social media threats.
Yeah, incredibly stupid reason to assault someone's house at 4am while wearing a mask. That kind of thing can and did get one of them killed.

On the bright side, thanks to social media the cops know what the motive was.
I see that you are trying to spin this as some patriot porn but this seems more of a cautionary tale about how internet chest beating and guns are a bad mix.
Suppose one of those rounds fired by the homeowners went through a wall and into another house, killing someone not involved in their little feud.
I did mention that I prefer a shotgun for home defense. On the bright side, this house is on more than an acre of land so there was not too much chance of the stray round getting into another house.

7 people attacking one house is a bunch
These folks may have actually needed the AR.

The full story should be interesting once it comes out.
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Apr 18 2018, 01:02 AM
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Apr 18 2018, 12:56 AM
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Apr 18 2018, 12:50 AM
Mr. Tik
Apr 18 2018, 12:45 AM
Five people are charged in the case. Investigators suspect the home invasion escalated from an ongoing feud between two groups that was stoked by social media threats.
Yeah, incredibly stupid reason to assault someone's house at 4am while wearing a mask. That kind of thing can and did get one of them killed.

On the bright side, thanks to social media the cops know what the motive was.
I see that you are trying to spin this as some patriot porn but this seems more of a cautionary tale about how internet chest beating and guns are a bad mix.
Suppose one of those rounds fired by the homeowners went through a wall and into another house, killing someone not involved in their little feud.
I did mention that I prefer a shotgun for home defense. On the bright side, this house is on more than an acre of land so there was not too much chance of the stray round getting into another house.

7 people attacking one house is a bunch
These folks may have actually needed the AR.

The full story should be interesting once it comes out.
Nah....The AR is guilty....
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How deep is human stupidity when people are arguing on social media? I don't think we see the bottom yet. And if we did, I don't think we still have a functioning society.
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Apr 18 2018, 12:57 AM
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Apr 18 2018, 12:56 AM
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Apr 18 2018, 12:53 AM
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Apr 18 2018, 12:48 AM
Well, this is definitely a car of "Wrong house motherf******".

Personally I still think a shotgun would have been more effective at home defense but the AR got the job done.

To be honest this is a really sad case. These are very young people who are facing a mandatory 20 year sentence for using a firearm in the commission of a felony. They may also face felony murder charges due to the death of one of their number.

Obviously we have some parenting issues here too because what the heck were a 15 and 16 year old doing running the roads at 4am?

Due to our self defense laws the people in the house will face no charges over the shooting unless they had some other criminal going on in the house.

It is a shame all around.
Officer....officer....I saw the whole thing....The gun did it.... :oyvey
This time it appears that the AR was fighting for the "good guys"
The specifics of the feud here wasn't fully explained.
Maybe the "good guys" weren't angels in this matter.
There is a reason why I put good guys in quotes. Regardless though, these people invaded their home with guns while wearing masks. Unless these people (the victims) had a kilo of coke in the house this is going to be considered a justified shooting.
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Apr 18 2018, 01:02 AM
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Apr 18 2018, 12:56 AM
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Apr 18 2018, 12:50 AM
Mr. Tik
Apr 18 2018, 12:45 AM
Five people are charged in the case. Investigators suspect the home invasion escalated from an ongoing feud between two groups that was stoked by social media threats.
Yeah, incredibly stupid reason to assault someone's house at 4am while wearing a mask. That kind of thing can and did get one of them killed.

On the bright side, thanks to social media the cops know what the motive was.
I see that you are trying to spin this as some patriot porn but this seems more of a cautionary tale about how internet chest beating and guns are a bad mix.
Suppose one of those rounds fired by the homeowners went through a wall and into another house, killing someone not involved in their little feud.
I did mention that I prefer a shotgun for home defense. On the bright side, this house is on more than an acre of land so there was not too much chance of the stray round getting into another house.

7 people attacking one house is a bunch
These folks may have actually needed the AR.

The full story should be interesting once it comes out.

I have no issue with people being armed to protect their home. If I lived on a more rural set up, I would definitely would have a shotgun handy
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Apr 18 2018, 01:06 AM
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Apr 18 2018, 12:57 AM
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Apr 18 2018, 12:56 AM
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Apr 18 2018, 12:53 AM
Demagogue
Apr 18 2018, 12:48 AM
Well, this is definitely a car of "Wrong house motherf******".

Personally I still think a shotgun would have been more effective at home defense but the AR got the job done.

To be honest this is a really sad case. These are very young people who are facing a mandatory 20 year sentence for using a firearm in the commission of a felony. They may also face felony murder charges due to the death of one of their number.

Obviously we have some parenting issues here too because what the heck were a 15 and 16 year old doing running the roads at 4am?

Due to our self defense laws the people in the house will face no charges over the shooting unless they had some other criminal going on in the house.

It is a shame all around.
Officer....officer....I saw the whole thing....The gun did it.... :oyvey
This time it appears that the AR was fighting for the "good guys"
The specifics of the feud here wasn't fully explained.
Maybe the "good guys" weren't angels in this matter.
There is a reason why I put good guys in quotes. Regardless though, these people invaded their home with guns while wearing masks. Unless these people (the victims) had a kilo of coke in the house this is going to be considered a justified shooting.
It is tragic and sad..one night and so many lives affected.
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Always shoot first at that range....Things will be worked out later.............. :rollseyes:
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Shooting 30 rounds from inside a trailer home is never a good idea, they could have killed half the neighborhood. Believe it or not bullets go through a trailer with ease, duh... Demagogue is correct, their weapon of choice should have been a shotgun.
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From the article: "Investigators found a heavy amount of dried blood caked on the front steps of the home, a bloodstained mask with a bullet hole through it and a .380 caliber handgun lying nearby, the report said. "

So a guy breaks down the door, and starts shooting a .380 (which probably holds 5 rounds)? This is a perfect example of Darwinism.
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As we all know, Florida is a big pro-Second Amendment state with the highest incidence of gun ownership. The voters of Florida understand that guns don't prevent crime, but they believe and armed citizenry reduces it and lowers the consequences. Therefore, this incident is "normal" and to be expected as a possible outcome in some whacky home invasion. This is how the citizens of Florida have chose to deal with guns in their state and non-Floridians should respect their choices. States rights means, among other things, mind your own business.
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Apr 18 2018, 10:01 AM
From the article: "Investigators found a heavy amount of dried blood caked on the front steps of the home, a bloodstained mask with a bullet hole through it and a .380 caliber handgun lying nearby, the report said. "

So a guy breaks down the door, and starts shooting a .380 (which probably holds 5 rounds)? This is a perfect example of Darwinism.
Yes, the guy who died was also pretty young so there is a good chance he had no children and may be eligible for a Darwin award y removing himself from the gene pool.

This is rural Florida. If you pick 10 houses 9 will have firearms. The unfortunate part is that more of the assailants were not put in the dirt. Sadly they will now be a burden to the state for quite some time.
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