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In Sunday night speech, Hillary Clinton directs barbs at Trump, not Comey
Topic Started: Apr 23 2018, 09:01 AM (244 Views)
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NEW YORK — In her first public appearance since James B. Comey, the former FBI director, began his book tour, Hillary Clinton made only a glancing reference to him in a speech on Sunday night and instead focused most of her attacks on President Donald Trump, once again likening him to authoritarians.

Clinton gave the Arthur Miller Freedom to Write Lecture at PEN America’s World Voices Festival in New York City. She spoke at length about threats to journalists around the world before turning her attention to domestic matters. She criticized Trump, not so subtly comparing him to authoritarian leaders who had suppressed journalism in their countries.

“Today, we have a president who seems to reject the role of a free press in our democracy,” she said. “Although obsessed with his own press coverage, he evaluates it based not on whether it provides knowledge or understanding, but solely on whether the daily coverage helps him and hurts his opponents.”

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2018/04/22/sunday-night-speech-hillary-clinton-directs-barbs-trump-not-comey/T4TPT8AwgWaTLTgyQXPdIO/story.html
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"Comparing him to authoritarian leaders who had suppressed journalism in their countries."

That's a pretty serious charge that requires documentation. Does criticizing one-sided known partisan journalists relying on unnamed sources amount to suppression? We all know what's happened to journalism these days, we have right wing journalists and left wing journalists, both masquerading as objective sources. They should be called out, it's an embarrassment to the profession. The most recent assault on Trump, a two year investigation that has degraded into a sex scandal case is beyond pathetic. It has been covered daily by "journalists" who can't produce a single verifiable fact justifying their accusations. As for Comey, Hillary owes her freedom to his efforts not to prosecute her. She should really just go away, she has disgraced herself enough.
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Apr 23 2018, 09:01 AM
NEW YORK — In her first public appearance since James B. Comey, the former FBI director, began his book tour, Hillary Clinton made only a glancing reference to him in a speech on Sunday night and instead focused most of her attacks on President Donald Trump, once again likening him to authoritarians.

Clinton gave the Arthur Miller Freedom to Write Lecture at PEN America’s World Voices Festival in New York City. She spoke at length about threats to journalists around the world before turning her attention to domestic matters. She criticized Trump, not so subtly comparing him to authoritarian leaders who had suppressed journalism in their countries.

“Today, we have a president who seems to reject the role of a free press in our democracy,” she said. “Although obsessed with his own press coverage, he evaluates it based not on whether it provides knowledge or understanding, but solely on whether the daily coverage helps him and hurts his opponents.”

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2018/04/22/sunday-night-speech-hillary-clinton-directs-barbs-trump-not-comey/T4TPT8AwgWaTLTgyQXPdIO/story.html
So, lemme see if I got this right....

A woman whose campaign committee secretly funneled 12 million bucks through a Democratic-supporting law firm, to pay for a completely unverified dossier, the basis for which was used to undermine her opponents Presidential election win, is NOW upset with the presence of false/fake journalism in this country? Really? Did she fall on her head again, or what?

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Apr 23 2018, 09:11 AM
"Comparing him to authoritarian leaders who had suppressed journalism in their countries."

That's a pretty serious charge that requires documentation. Does criticizing one-sided known partisan journalists relying on unnamed sources amount to suppression? We all know what's happened to journalism these days, we have right wing journalists and left wing journalists, both masquerading as objective sources. They should be called out, it's an embarrassment to the profession. The most recent assault on Trump, a two year investigation that has degraded into a sex scandal case is beyond pathetic. It has been covered daily by "journalists" who can't produce a single verifiable fact justifying their accusations. As for Comey, Hillary owes her freedom to his efforts not to prosecute her. She should really just go away, she has disgraced herself enough.
Trump and his followers would not recognize a fact if it hit them up side the head. In fact, they refer to "alternate facts" to support their unsupportable positions. They have helped create a society where facts no longer matter and journalists are constantly attacked as "biased" if they print anything that contradicts the Trump position.

Clinton was right in her speech. Trump wants to be an authoritarian. He does not want any limits to his power and wants to constantly undermine the checks and balances of our system. The Trumpies seem to have no problem with this.
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Apr 23 2018, 09:24 AM
George Aligator
Apr 23 2018, 09:01 AM
NEW YORK — In her first public appearance since James B. Comey, the former FBI director, began his book tour, Hillary Clinton made only a glancing reference to him in a speech on Sunday night and instead focused most of her attacks on President Donald Trump, once again likening him to authoritarians.

Clinton gave the Arthur Miller Freedom to Write Lecture at PEN America’s World Voices Festival in New York City. She spoke at length about threats to journalists around the world before turning her attention to domestic matters. She criticized Trump, not so subtly comparing him to authoritarian leaders who had suppressed journalism in their countries.

“Today, we have a president who seems to reject the role of a free press in our democracy,” she said. “Although obsessed with his own press coverage, he evaluates it based not on whether it provides knowledge or understanding, but solely on whether the daily coverage helps him and hurts his opponents.”

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2018/04/22/sunday-night-speech-hillary-clinton-directs-barbs-trump-not-comey/T4TPT8AwgWaTLTgyQXPdIO/story.html
So, lemme see if I got this right....

A woman whose campaign committee secretly funneled 12 million bucks through a Democratic-supporting law firm, to pay for a completely unverified dossier, the basis for which was used to undermine her opponents Presidential election win, is NOW upset with the presence of false/fake journalism in this country? Really? Did she fall on her head again, or what?

Mozart
Most of the dossier has not been verified, you need to stop watching Fox and listening to Trump. Even the more salacious material seems to have some verification in Trump's actions and concerns.

Journalists in this country have continued to pursue the facts and publish the verification. It is driving the Trumpies crazy that the rest of us just do not take his word and expect the truth to come out.
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Apr 23 2018, 09:28 AM
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Apr 23 2018, 09:24 AM
George Aligator
Apr 23 2018, 09:01 AM
NEW YORK — In her first public appearance since James B. Comey, the former FBI director, began his book tour, Hillary Clinton made only a glancing reference to him in a speech on Sunday night and instead focused most of her attacks on President Donald Trump, once again likening him to authoritarians.

Clinton gave the Arthur Miller Freedom to Write Lecture at PEN America’s World Voices Festival in New York City. She spoke at length about threats to journalists around the world before turning her attention to domestic matters. She criticized Trump, not so subtly comparing him to authoritarian leaders who had suppressed journalism in their countries.

“Today, we have a president who seems to reject the role of a free press in our democracy,” she said. “Although obsessed with his own press coverage, he evaluates it based not on whether it provides knowledge or understanding, but solely on whether the daily coverage helps him and hurts his opponents.”

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2018/04/22/sunday-night-speech-hillary-clinton-directs-barbs-trump-not-comey/T4TPT8AwgWaTLTgyQXPdIO/story.html
So, lemme see if I got this right....

A woman whose campaign committee secretly funneled 12 million bucks through a Democratic-supporting law firm, to pay for a completely unverified dossier, the basis for which was used to undermine her opponents Presidential election win, is NOW upset with the presence of false/fake journalism in this country? Really? Did she fall on her head again, or what?

Mozart
Most of the dossier has not been verified, you need to stop watching Fox and listening to Trump. Even the more salacious material seems to have some verification in Trump's actions and concerns.

Journalists in this country have continued to pursue the facts and publish the verification. It is driving the Trumpies crazy that the rest of us just do not take his word and expect the truth to come out.
Although their pursuit of the news takes a left slant usually and what is reported has a dollar value attached to it. We know this because today it was reported that Channing Tatum hangs out with Arie Luyendyk Jr. in first post-split appearance, Shania Twain apologizes after saying she would've voted for Trump, What Really Happened With Leonardo DiCaprio And Mark Wahlberg's Boogie Nights Casting, and more important news headlines dominated AOLs offerings this morning. Nothing of Russia, North Korea, China.

If all the media can come up with is that Ma Barker :drinking: remained sober long enough to chat with the good folks at PEN America’s World Voices Festival I'd say that we had a good day news wise here in America.
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Apr 23 2018, 09:24 AM
George Aligator
Apr 23 2018, 09:01 AM
NEW YORK — In her first public appearance since James B. Comey, the former FBI director, began his book tour, Hillary Clinton made only a glancing reference to him in a speech on Sunday night and instead focused most of her attacks on President Donald Trump, once again likening him to authoritarians.

Clinton gave the Arthur Miller Freedom to Write Lecture at PEN America’s World Voices Festival in New York City. She spoke at length about threats to journalists around the world before turning her attention to domestic matters. She criticized Trump, not so subtly comparing him to authoritarian leaders who had suppressed journalism in their countries.

“Today, we have a president who seems to reject the role of a free press in our democracy,” she said. “Although obsessed with his own press coverage, he evaluates it based not on whether it provides knowledge or understanding, but solely on whether the daily coverage helps him and hurts his opponents.”

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2018/04/22/sunday-night-speech-hillary-clinton-directs-barbs-trump-not-comey/T4TPT8AwgWaTLTgyQXPdIO/story.html
So, lemme see if I got this right....

A woman whose campaign committee secretly funneled 12 million bucks through a Democratic-supporting law firm, to pay for a completely unverified dossier, the basis for which was used to undermine her opponents Presidential election win, is NOW upset with the presence of false/fake journalism in this country? Really? Did she fall on her head again, or what?

Mozart
Bingo! We have a winner....
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Apr 23 2018, 09:25 AM
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Apr 23 2018, 09:11 AM
"Comparing him to authoritarian leaders who had suppressed journalism in their countries."

That's a pretty serious charge that requires documentation. Does criticizing one-sided known partisan journalists relying on unnamed sources amount to suppression? We all know what's happened to journalism these days, we have right wing journalists and left wing journalists, both masquerading as objective sources. They should be called out, it's an embarrassment to the profession. The most recent assault on Trump, a two year investigation that has degraded into a sex scandal case is beyond pathetic. It has been covered daily by "journalists" who can't produce a single verifiable fact justifying their accusations. As for Comey, Hillary owes her freedom to his efforts not to prosecute her. She should really just go away, she has disgraced herself enough.
Trump and his followers would not recognize a fact if it hit them up side the head. In fact, they refer to "alternate facts" to support their unsupportable positions. They have helped create a society where facts no longer matter and journalists are constantly attacked as "biased" if they print anything that contradicts the Trump position.

Clinton was right in her speech. Trump wants to be an authoritarian. He does not want any limits to his power and wants to constantly undermine the checks and balances of our system. The Trumpies seem to have no problem with this.
Facts like what, Hillary fixing the democratic primary? Facts like Hillary collecting tens of millions of dollars for her charity/slush fund from foreign governments while she was SofS? Facts like Hillary operating a private server while exposing top secret files to foreign hackers? The Cattle Futures Queen should be dangling from the end of a rope for treason. We could raise money for charity by selling the right to pull the lever. I know I would bid.
"No. No he won't. We'll stop it."
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Apr 23 2018, 09:28 AM
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Apr 23 2018, 09:24 AM
George Aligator
Apr 23 2018, 09:01 AM
NEW YORK — In her first public appearance since James B. Comey, the former FBI director, began his book tour, Hillary Clinton made only a glancing reference to him in a speech on Sunday night and instead focused most of her attacks on President Donald Trump, once again likening him to authoritarians.

Clinton gave the Arthur Miller Freedom to Write Lecture at PEN America’s World Voices Festival in New York City. She spoke at length about threats to journalists around the world before turning her attention to domestic matters. She criticized Trump, not so subtly comparing him to authoritarian leaders who had suppressed journalism in their countries.

“Today, we have a president who seems to reject the role of a free press in our democracy,” she said. “Although obsessed with his own press coverage, he evaluates it based not on whether it provides knowledge or understanding, but solely on whether the daily coverage helps him and hurts his opponents.”

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2018/04/22/sunday-night-speech-hillary-clinton-directs-barbs-trump-not-comey/T4TPT8AwgWaTLTgyQXPdIO/story.html
So, lemme see if I got this right....

A woman whose campaign committee secretly funneled 12 million bucks through a Democratic-supporting law firm, to pay for a completely unverified dossier, the basis for which was used to undermine her opponents Presidential election win, is NOW upset with the presence of false/fake journalism in this country? Really? Did she fall on her head again, or what?

Mozart
Most of the dossier has not been verified, you need to stop watching Fox and listening to Trump. Even the more salacious material seems to have some verification in Trump's actions and concerns.

Journalists in this country have continued to pursue the facts and publish the verification. It is driving the Trumpies crazy that the rest of us just do not take his word and expect the truth to come out.
Sorry early morning typo. Most of the dossier has been verified. The only thing that has not is the salacious hooker stories and even Trump seems to have slipped up and started to talk like there is something there.
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Apr 23 2018, 11:16 AM
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Apr 23 2018, 09:28 AM
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Apr 23 2018, 09:24 AM
George Aligator
Apr 23 2018, 09:01 AM
NEW YORK — In her first public appearance since James B. Comey, the former FBI director, began his book tour, Hillary Clinton made only a glancing reference to him in a speech on Sunday night and instead focused most of her attacks on President Donald Trump, once again likening him to authoritarians.

Clinton gave the Arthur Miller Freedom to Write Lecture at PEN America’s World Voices Festival in New York City. She spoke at length about threats to journalists around the world before turning her attention to domestic matters. She criticized Trump, not so subtly comparing him to authoritarian leaders who had suppressed journalism in their countries.

“Today, we have a president who seems to reject the role of a free press in our democracy,” she said. “Although obsessed with his own press coverage, he evaluates it based not on whether it provides knowledge or understanding, but solely on whether the daily coverage helps him and hurts his opponents.”

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2018/04/22/sunday-night-speech-hillary-clinton-directs-barbs-trump-not-comey/T4TPT8AwgWaTLTgyQXPdIO/story.html
So, lemme see if I got this right....

A woman whose campaign committee secretly funneled 12 million bucks through a Democratic-supporting law firm, to pay for a completely unverified dossier, the basis for which was used to undermine her opponents Presidential election win, is NOW upset with the presence of false/fake journalism in this country? Really? Did she fall on her head again, or what?

Mozart
Most of the dossier has not been verified, you need to stop watching Fox and listening to Trump. Even the more salacious material seems to have some verification in Trump's actions and concerns.

Journalists in this country have continued to pursue the facts and publish the verification. It is driving the Trumpies crazy that the rest of us just do not take his word and expect the truth to come out.
Sorry early morning typo. Most of the dossier has been verified. The only thing that has not is the salacious hooker stories and even Trump seems to have slipped up and started to talk like there is something there.
Verified by whom? Comey and his ilk?

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Apr 23 2018, 11:14 AM
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Apr 23 2018, 09:25 AM
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Apr 23 2018, 09:11 AM
"Comparing him to authoritarian leaders who had suppressed journalism in their countries."

That's a pretty serious charge that requires documentation. Does criticizing one-sided known partisan journalists relying on unnamed sources amount to suppression? We all know what's happened to journalism these days, we have right wing journalists and left wing journalists, both masquerading as objective sources. They should be called out, it's an embarrassment to the profession. The most recent assault on Trump, a two year investigation that has degraded into a sex scandal case is beyond pathetic. It has been covered daily by "journalists" who can't produce a single verifiable fact justifying their accusations. As for Comey, Hillary owes her freedom to his efforts not to prosecute her. She should really just go away, she has disgraced herself enough.
Trump and his followers would not recognize a fact if it hit them up side the head. In fact, they refer to "alternate facts" to support their unsupportable positions. They have helped create a society where facts no longer matter and journalists are constantly attacked as "biased" if they print anything that contradicts the Trump position.

Clinton was right in her speech. Trump wants to be an authoritarian. He does not want any limits to his power and wants to constantly undermine the checks and balances of our system. The Trumpies seem to have no problem with this.
Facts like what, Hillary fixing the democratic primary? Facts like Hillary collecting tens of millions of dollars for her charity/slush fund from foreign governments while she was SofS? Facts like Hillary operating a private server while exposing top secret files to foreign hackers? The Cattle Futures Queen should be dangling from the end of a rope for treason. We could raise money for charity by selling the right to pull the lever. I know I would bid.
Facts like those, or at least Rightie "alternative facts".

1) The Democratic Primary was not fixed. The members of the DNC had a favorite, that happens every primary but Democratic voters could vote for whoever they wanted and it counted. "Fixing" an election is screwing with the actual votes or preventing someone from voting and that did not happen.

2) Hillary was not involved with the Foundation when she was SoS and the Foundation was not a "slush" fund. The Clinton did not benefit from the Foundation financially.

3) Her server was not hacked. There is no evidence it was hacked. It seems to have been more secure than the DoS server which was hacked.

4) There is no evidence or reasonable claim that Clinton committed treason

Sorry to burst your "alternative facts" which fuel your "alternative universe" in Rightie World.
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Apr 23 2018, 09:24 AM
George Aligator
Apr 23 2018, 09:01 AM
NEW YORK — In her first public appearance since James B. Comey, the former FBI director, began his book tour, Hillary Clinton made only a glancing reference to him in a speech on Sunday night and instead focused most of her attacks on President Donald Trump, once again likening him to authoritarians.

Clinton gave the Arthur Miller Freedom to Write Lecture at PEN America’s World Voices Festival in New York City. She spoke at length about threats to journalists around the world before turning her attention to domestic matters. She criticized Trump, not so subtly comparing him to authoritarian leaders who had suppressed journalism in their countries.

“Today, we have a president who seems to reject the role of a free press in our democracy,” she said. “Although obsessed with his own press coverage, he evaluates it based not on whether it provides knowledge or understanding, but solely on whether the daily coverage helps him and hurts his opponents.”

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2018/04/22/sunday-night-speech-hillary-clinton-directs-barbs-trump-not-comey/T4TPT8AwgWaTLTgyQXPdIO/story.html
So, lemme see if I got this right....

A woman whose campaign committee secretly funneled 12 million bucks through a Democratic-supporting law firm, to pay for a completely unverified dossier, the basis for which was used to undermine her opponents Presidential election win, is NOW upset with the presence of false/fake journalism in this country? Really? Did she fall on her head again, or what?

Mozart
Most of the dossier has not been verified, you need to stop watching Fox and listening to Trump. Even the more salacious material seems to have some verification in Trump's actions and concerns.

Journalists in this country have continued to pursue the facts and publish the verification. It is driving the Trumpies crazy that the rest of us just do not take his word and expect the truth to come out.
Sorry early morning typo. Most of the dossier has been verified. The only thing that has not is the salacious hooker stories and even Trump seems to have slipped up and started to talk like there is something there.
Verified by whom? Comey and his ilk?

:rotflmao:
Reporters, investigators, Congressional (Republican) committees and the most important Mueller when he releases his report.
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Apr 23 2018, 09:24 AM
Most of the dossier has not been verified, you need to stop watching Fox and listening to Trump. Even the more salacious material seems to have some verification in Trump's actions and concerns.

Journalists in this country have continued to pursue the facts and publish the verification. It is driving the Trumpies crazy that the rest of us just do not take his word and expect the truth to come out.
Sorry early morning typo. Most of the dossier has been verified. The only thing that has not is the salacious hooker stories and even Trump seems to have slipped up and started to talk like there is something there.
Verified by whom? Comey and his ilk?

:rotflmao:
Reporters, investigators, Congressional (Republican) committees and the most important Mueller when he releases his report.
Oh OK.....so it's been "pre-verified" by highly partisan biased entities....

Um ok....certainly passes the smell test....


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Apr 23 2018, 09:24 AM
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Apr 23 2018, 09:01 AM
NEW YORK — In her first public appearance since James B. Comey, the former FBI director, began his book tour, Hillary Clinton made only a glancing reference to him in a speech on Sunday night and instead focused most of her attacks on President Donald Trump, once again likening him to authoritarians.

Clinton gave the Arthur Miller Freedom to Write Lecture at PEN America’s World Voices Festival in New York City. She spoke at length about threats to journalists around the world before turning her attention to domestic matters. She criticized Trump, not so subtly comparing him to authoritarian leaders who had suppressed journalism in their countries.

“Today, we have a president who seems to reject the role of a free press in our democracy,” she said. “Although obsessed with his own press coverage, he evaluates it based not on whether it provides knowledge or understanding, but solely on whether the daily coverage helps him and hurts his opponents.”

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2018/04/22/sunday-night-speech-hillary-clinton-directs-barbs-trump-not-comey/T4TPT8AwgWaTLTgyQXPdIO/story.html
So, lemme see if I got this right....

A woman whose campaign committee secretly funneled 12 million bucks through a Democratic-supporting law firm, to pay for a completely unverified dossier, the basis for which was used to undermine her opponents Presidential election win, is NOW upset with the presence of false/fake journalism in this country? Really? Did she fall on her head again, or what?

Mozart
Most of the dossier has not been verified, you need to stop watching Fox and listening to Trump. Even the more salacious material seems to have some verification in Trump's actions and concerns.

Journalists in this country have continued to pursue the facts and publish the verification. It is driving the Trumpies crazy that the rest of us just do not take his word and expect the truth to come out.
Although their pursuit of the news takes a left slant usually and what is reported has a dollar value attached to it. We know this because today it was reported that Channing Tatum hangs out with Arie Luyendyk Jr. in first post-split appearance, Shania Twain apologizes after saying she would've voted for Trump, What Really Happened With Leonardo DiCaprio And Mark Wahlberg's Boogie Nights Casting, and more important news headlines dominated AOLs offerings this morning. Nothing of Russia, North Korea, China.

If all the media can come up with is that Ma Barker :drinking: remained sober long enough to chat with the good folks at PEN America’s World Voices Festival I'd say that we had a good day news wise here in America.
AOL is not news. It is an entertainment aggregator. Of course it covers celebrity gossip. That is the problem, most people and particularly, it seems Trumpies do not know what a news source really is. After all, many get their news from Facebook.
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Sorry early morning typo. Most of the dossier has been verified. The only thing that has not is the salacious hooker stories and even Trump seems to have slipped up and started to talk like there is something there.
Verified by whom? Comey and his ilk?

:rotflmao:
Reporters, investigators, Congressional (Republican) committees and the most important Mueller when he releases his report.
Oh OK.....so it's been "pre-verified" by highly partisan biased entities....

Um ok....certainly passes the smell test....


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Apr 23 2018, 09:11 AM
"Comparing him to authoritarian leaders who had suppressed journalism in their countries."

That's a pretty serious charge that requires documentation. Does criticizing one-sided known partisan journalists relying on unnamed sources amount to suppression? We all know what's happened to journalism these days, we have right wing journalists and left wing journalists, both masquerading as objective sources. They should be called out, it's an embarrassment to the profession. The most recent assault on Trump, a two year investigation that has degraded into a sex scandal case is beyond pathetic. It has been covered daily by "journalists" who can't produce a single verifiable fact justifying their accusations. As for Comey, Hillary owes her freedom to his efforts not to prosecute her. She should really just go away, she has disgraced herself enough.
Trump and his followers would not recognize a fact if it hit them up side the head. In fact, they refer to "alternate facts" to support their unsupportable positions. They have helped create a society where facts no longer matter and journalists are constantly attacked as "biased" if they print anything that contradicts the Trump position.

Clinton was right in her speech. Trump wants to be an authoritarian. He does not want any limits to his power and wants to constantly undermine the checks and balances of our system. The Trumpies seem to have no problem with this.
Facts like what, Hillary fixing the democratic primary? Facts like Hillary collecting tens of millions of dollars for her charity/slush fund from foreign governments while she was SofS? Facts like Hillary operating a private server while exposing top secret files to foreign hackers? The Cattle Futures Queen should be dangling from the end of a rope for treason. We could raise money for charity by selling the right to pull the lever. I know I would bid.
Facts like those, or at least Rightie "alternative facts".

1) The Democratic Primary was not fixed. The members of the DNC had a favorite, that happens every primary but Democratic voters could vote for whoever they wanted and it counted. "Fixing" an election is screwing with the actual votes or preventing someone from voting and that did not happen.

2) Hillary was not involved with the Foundation when she was SoS and the Foundation was not a "slush" fund. The Clinton did not benefit from the Foundation financially.

3) Her server was not hacked. There is no evidence it was hacked. It seems to have been more secure than the DoS server which was hacked.

4) There is no evidence or reasonable claim that Clinton committed treason

Sorry to burst your "alternative facts" which fuel your "alternative universe" in Rightie World.
Facts like those, or at least Rightie "alternative facts".

1) The Democratic Primary was not fixed. Wrong, Donna Brazille admitted it.

2) Hillary was not involved with the Foundation when she was SoS and the Foundation was not a "slush" fund. The Clinton did not benefit from the Foundation financially. They had to re-file years of tax returns because they tried to hide their donors

3) Her server was not hacked. There is evidence it was hacked. It WAS a private server and SHE DID send and receive top secret information and LIED ABOUT IT.

4) There is no evidence or reasonable claim that Clinton committed treason. There are millions of dollars, a money trail, that makes a claim of treason more than reasonable

Sorry to burst your "alternative facts" which fuel your "alternative universe" in Leftie World. The guy that claimed 95% of Obama's ObamaCare claims were true has zero credibility.
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Apr 23 2018, 09:11 AM
"Comparing him to authoritarian leaders who had suppressed journalism in their countries."

That's a pretty serious charge that requires documentation. Does criticizing one-sided known partisan journalists relying on unnamed sources amount to suppression? We all know what's happened to journalism these days, we have right wing journalists and left wing journalists, both masquerading as objective sources. They should be called out, it's an embarrassment to the profession. The most recent assault on Trump, a two year investigation that has degraded into a sex scandal case is beyond pathetic. It has been covered daily by "journalists" who can't produce a single verifiable fact justifying their accusations. As for Comey, Hillary owes her freedom to his efforts not to prosecute her. She should really just go away, she has disgraced herself enough.
Trump and his followers would not recognize a fact if it hit them up side the head. In fact, they refer to "alternate facts" to support their unsupportable positions. They have helped create a society where facts no longer matter and journalists are constantly attacked as "biased" if they print anything that contradicts the Trump position.

Clinton was right in her speech. Trump wants to be an authoritarian. He does not want any limits to his power and wants to constantly undermine the checks and balances of our system. The Trumpies seem to have no problem with this.
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Why won't she just go away ?
And who in their right mind would pay to go listen to her speak ?


The real leftists are the silenced majority, the sleeping giant.
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What would an American authoritarian do?

Take away peoples healthcare they had liked and were promised they could keep?

Use the IRS to harass political opposition?

Force Americans to buy a private sector product?

Yes my friends, beware of authoritarian actions...

Edited by PATruth, Apr 23 2018, 12:14 PM.
"No. No he won't. We'll stop it."
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Apr 23 2018, 09:11 AM
"Comparing him to authoritarian leaders who had suppressed journalism in their countries."

That's a pretty serious charge that requires documentation. Does criticizing one-sided known partisan journalists relying on unnamed sources amount to suppression? We all know what's happened to journalism these days, we have right wing journalists and left wing journalists, both masquerading as objective sources. They should be called out, it's an embarrassment to the profession. The most recent assault on Trump, a two year investigation that has degraded into a sex scandal case is beyond pathetic. It has been covered daily by "journalists" who can't produce a single verifiable fact justifying their accusations. As for Comey, Hillary owes her freedom to his efforts not to prosecute her. She should really just go away, she has disgraced herself enough.
Trump and his followers would not recognize a fact if it hit them up side the head. In fact, they refer to "alternate facts" to support their unsupportable positions. They have helped create a society where facts no longer matter and journalists are constantly attacked as "biased" if they print anything that contradicts the Trump position.

Clinton was right in her speech. Trump wants to be an authoritarian. He does not want any limits to his power and wants to constantly undermine the checks and balances of our system. The Trumpies seem to have no problem with this.
Facts like what, Hillary fixing the democratic primary? Facts like Hillary collecting tens of millions of dollars for her charity/slush fund from foreign governments while she was SofS? Facts like Hillary operating a private server while exposing top secret files to foreign hackers? The Cattle Futures Queen should be dangling from the end of a rope for treason. We could raise money for charity by selling the right to pull the lever. I know I would bid.
Facts like those, or at least Rightie "alternative facts".

1) The Democratic Primary was not fixed. The members of the DNC had a favorite, that happens every primary but Democratic voters could vote for whoever they wanted and it counted. "Fixing" an election is screwing with the actual votes or preventing someone from voting and that did not happen.

2) Hillary was not involved with the Foundation when she was SoS and the Foundation was not a "slush" fund. The Clinton did not benefit from the Foundation financially.

3) Her server was not hacked. There is no evidence it was hacked. It seems to have been more secure than the DoS server which was hacked.

4) There is no evidence or reasonable claim that Clinton committed treason

Sorry to burst your "alternative facts" which fuel your "alternative universe" in Rightie World.
Facts like those, or at least Rightie "alternative facts".

1) The Democratic Primary was not fixed. Wrong, Donna Brazille admitted it.

2) Hillary was not involved with the Foundation when she was SoS and the Foundation was not a "slush" fund. The Clinton did not benefit from the Foundation financially. They had to re-file years of tax returns because they tried to hide their donors

3) Her server was not hacked. There is evidence it was hacked. It WAS a private server and SHE DID send and receive top secret information and LIED ABOUT IT.

4) There is no evidence or reasonable claim that Clinton committed treason. There are millions of dollars, a money trail, that makes a claim of treason more than reasonable

Sorry to burst your "alternative facts" which fuel your "alternative universe" in Leftie World. The guy that claimed 95% of Obama's ObamaCare claims were true has zero credibility.
1) Donna Brazille was selling a book and the term "rigged" came up. Brazille later walked that back and said neither she or her book made that claim.

2) The Clintons did not have to refile their returns. The Foundation did refile corrected returns but again, Hillary Clinton was not involved with the Foundation at that time. It should also be pointed out that the Clinton Foundation is not run by a Clinton, it has a paid staff that runs the foundation.

3) There is no evidence that it was hacked. It was a private server, so are the servers that host this site, at Google, at Microsoft, and at any other site that hosts individual email accounts. After investigation, it was determined she did not lie about her activities. The emails were classified after they were sent, much later by years.

4) Again, there is no reasonable claim. Your conspiracy theories are not reasonable nor factual.
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