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Broward sheriff's deputies cowered behind cars, tree with Parkland shooter believed in school, report says
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Apr 24 2018, 02:18 PM
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/04/24/broward-sheriffs-deputies-cowered-behind-cars-tree-with-parkland-shooter-believed-in-school-report-says.html
The deputies who were among the first to arrive to the scene of the Florida school massacre were found cowering behind their cars and a nearby tree and had no idea where the gunman was, according to an official report released Tuesday.
The report from Coral Springs Officer Bryan Wilkins details how he arrived at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School within minutes of the active shooter alert -- only to find Broward County Sheriff's Officers hadn't entered the school, but were instead taking cover.
"I saw approximately four Broward County Sheriff's Office vehicles parked in the west bound lane with their personnel taking up exterior positions behind their vehicles," Wilkins wrote. "I drove up just west of the campus building 1200, exited my vehicle, grabbed my AR-15 rifle and donned on my tactical/medical gear. As I was advancing on foot through the chain-link fence, I was advised by an unknown BSO Deputy taking cover behind a tree, 'he is on the third floor.'"
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Apr 24 2018, 02:20 PM
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What an utter indictment of the Broward Sheriff's Office. I honestly do not see how you can't hold the Sheriff responsible for this kind of failure.
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Apr 24 2018, 02:21 PM
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Cowards.
Or they were ordered to stand down.
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Robert Stout
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Apr 24 2018, 02:29 PM
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Several mass shootings were halted by just one police officer....How many kids were killed after the police first arrived and before the police entered the school ???............... :oyvey
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Apr 24 2018, 02:30 PM
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What an utter indictment of the Broward Sheriff's Office. I honestly do not see how you can't hold the Sheriff responsible for this kind of failure. Isn't the Sheriff responsible for training and discipline? The commanding officer is responsible, period. The deputies found themselves in what was probably a once-in-a-lifetime combat situation. The military trains for this kind of unit action but has a lot more control over where and when it will occur. The ability of one or two shooters to put a local PD into a combat scenario thanks to assault rifle technology is a challenge we cannot defeat. The cost of maintaining combat-ready SWAT teams for a battle that may never happen is prohibitively expensive. Expecting traffic patrol guys to turn into an infantry squad at a moment's notice will just produce a lot of dead cops.
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Apr 24 2018, 02:45 PM
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What an utter indictment of the Broward Sheriff's Office. I honestly do not see how you can't hold the Sheriff responsible for this kind of failure.
Isn't the Sheriff responsible for training and discipline? The commanding officer is responsible, period. The deputies found themselves in what was probably a once-in-a-lifetime combat situation. The military trains for this kind of unit action but has a lot more control over where and when it will occur. The ability of one or two shooters to put a local PD into a combat scenario thanks to assault rifle technology is a challenge we cannot defeat. The cost of maintaining combat-ready SWAT teams for a battle that may never happen is prohibitively expensive. Expecting traffic patrol guys to turn into an infantry squad at a moment's notice will just produce a lot of dead cops. The body count of victims of mass shootings to police killed responding to mass shootings suggests that regular officers should take the risk....This is why many police departments have policy and procedure to immediately respond to an active shooter situation......... :oyvey
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Apr 24 2018, 04:04 PM
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What an utter indictment of the Broward Sheriff's Office. I honestly do not see how you can't hold the Sheriff responsible for this kind of failure.
Isn't the Sheriff responsible for training and discipline? The commanding officer is responsible, period. The deputies found themselves in what was probably a once-in-a-lifetime combat situation. The military trains for this kind of unit action but has a lot more control over where and when it will occur. The ability of one or two shooters to put a local PD into a combat scenario thanks to assault rifle technology is a challenge we cannot defeat. The cost of maintaining combat-ready SWAT teams for a battle that may never happen is prohibitively expensive. Expecting traffic patrol guys to turn into an infantry squad at a moment's notice will just produce a lot of dead cops. Nearly every police squad car I have ever seen is equipped with a shotgun and the officers are all armed with semi-auto handguns.
As we have seen with multiple incidents since the one in Broward, one police officer can take down a suspect with a long rifle. In this case, there were up to four officers who failed their community.
Additionally, the responding officer from Coral Springs (who was not SWAT to my understanding) went ahead and entered the building against orders because it was his duty as a sworn officer of the law.
At least we seem to agree that the Sheriff is ultimately responsible and should be removed.
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What an utter indictment of the Broward Sheriff's Office. I honestly do not see how you can't hold the Sheriff responsible for this kind of failure.
Isn't the Sheriff responsible for training and discipline? The commanding officer is responsible, period. The deputies found themselves in what was probably a once-in-a-lifetime combat situation. The military trains for this kind of unit action but has a lot more control over where and when it will occur. The ability of one or two shooters to put a local PD into a combat scenario thanks to assault rifle technology is a challenge we cannot defeat. The cost of maintaining combat-ready SWAT teams for a battle that may never happen is prohibitively expensive. Expecting traffic patrol guys to turn into an infantry squad at a moment's notice will just produce a lot of dead cops.
Nearly every police squad car I have ever seen is equipped with a shotgun and the officers are all armed with semi-auto handguns. As we have seen with multiple incidents since the one in Broward, one police officer can take down a suspect with a long rifle. In this case, there were up to four officers who failed their community. Additionally, the responding officer from Coral Springs (who was not SWAT to my understanding) went ahead and entered the building against orders because it was his duty as a sworn officer of the law. At least we seem to agree that the Sheriff is ultimately responsible and should be removed. Police officers are, in many parts of the country, paid better than Mall security guards. They receive better benefits. They are usually able to retire at an earlier age. And they typically receive the respect of the community in which they serve.
This is all because they are expected to step up when things go bad and put their lives on the line trying, and hopefully succeeding, in protecting their community. Yes, being a police officer is sometimes a dangerous profession.
If they're just going to behave like Mall rent-a-cops, they should be compensated accordingly.
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Apr 24 2018, 04:25 PM
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What an utter indictment of the Broward Sheriff's Office. I honestly do not see how you can't hold the Sheriff responsible for this kind of failure.
Isn't the Sheriff responsible for training and discipline? The commanding officer is responsible, period. The deputies found themselves in what was probably a once-in-a-lifetime combat situation. The military trains for this kind of unit action but has a lot more control over where and when it will occur. The ability of one or two shooters to put a local PD into a combat scenario thanks to assault rifle technology is a challenge we cannot defeat. The cost of maintaining combat-ready SWAT teams for a battle that may never happen is prohibitively expensive. Expecting traffic patrol guys to turn into an infantry squad at a moment's notice will just produce a lot of dead cops.
Nearly every police squad car I have ever seen is equipped with a shotgun and the officers are all armed with semi-auto handguns. As we have seen with multiple incidents since the one in Broward, one police officer can take down a suspect with a long rifle. In this case, there were up to four officers who failed their community. Additionally, the responding officer from Coral Springs (who was not SWAT to my understanding) went ahead and entered the building against orders because it was his duty as a sworn officer of the law. At least we seem to agree that the Sheriff is ultimately responsible and should be removed.
Police officers are, in many parts of the country, paid better than Mall security guards. They receive better benefits. They are usually able to retire at an earlier age. And they typically receive the respect of the community in which they serve. This is all because they are expected to step up when things go bad and put their lives on the line trying, and hopefully succeeding, in protecting their community. Yes, being a police officer is sometimes a dangerous profession. If they're just going to behave like Mall rent-a-cops, they should be compensated accordingly. Well the Sheriff did stay busy doing other things...
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Apr 24 2018, 05:22 PM
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What an utter indictment of the Broward Sheriff's Office. I honestly do not see how you can't hold the Sheriff responsible for this kind of failure.
Isn't the Sheriff responsible for training and discipline? The commanding officer is responsible, period. The deputies found themselves in what was probably a once-in-a-lifetime combat situation. The military trains for this kind of unit action but has a lot more control over where and when it will occur. The ability of one or two shooters to put a local PD into a combat scenario thanks to assault rifle technology is a challenge we cannot defeat. The cost of maintaining combat-ready SWAT teams for a battle that may never happen is prohibitively expensive. Expecting traffic patrol guys to turn into an infantry squad at a moment's notice will just produce a lot of dead cops.
Nearly every police squad car I have ever seen is equipped with a shotgun and the officers are all armed with semi-auto handguns. As we have seen with multiple incidents since the one in Broward, one police officer can take down a suspect with a long rifle. In this case, there were up to four officers who failed their community. Additionally, the responding officer from Coral Springs (who was not SWAT to my understanding) went ahead and entered the building against orders because it was his duty as a sworn officer of the law. At least we seem to agree that the Sheriff is ultimately responsible and should be removed.
Police officers are, in many parts of the country, paid better than Mall security guards. They receive better benefits. They are usually able to retire at an earlier age. And they typically receive the respect of the community in which they serve. This is all because they are expected to step up when things go bad and put their lives on the line trying, and hopefully succeeding, in protecting their community. Yes, being a police officer is sometimes a dangerous profession. If they're just going to behave like Mall rent-a-cops, they should be compensated accordingly.
Well the Sheriff did stay busy doing other things...  Hardly the first or likely the last Sheriff wanting to their picture taken with famous politicians. I imagine there is probably one with him of any famous Republican politicians that came to town too.
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Nearly every police squad car I have ever seen is equipped with a shotgun and the officers are all armed with semi-auto handguns. As we have seen with multiple incidents since the one in Broward, one police officer can take down a suspect with a long rifle. In this case, there were up to four officers who failed their community. Additionally, the responding officer from Coral Springs (who was not SWAT to my understanding) went ahead and entered the building against orders because it was his duty as a sworn officer of the law. At least we seem to agree that the Sheriff is ultimately responsible and should be removed.
Police officers are, in many parts of the country, paid better than Mall security guards. They receive better benefits. They are usually able to retire at an earlier age. And they typically receive the respect of the community in which they serve. This is all because they are expected to step up when things go bad and put their lives on the line trying, and hopefully succeeding, in protecting their community. Yes, being a police officer is sometimes a dangerous profession. If they're just going to behave like Mall rent-a-cops, they should be compensated accordingly.
Well the Sheriff did stay busy doing other things... 
Hardly the first or likely the last Sheriff wanting to their picture taken with famous politicians. I imagine there is probably one with him of any famous Republican politicians that came to town too. If there was the alt left would have published them already.....
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Police officers are, in many parts of the country, paid better than Mall security guards. They receive better benefits. They are usually able to retire at an earlier age. And they typically receive the respect of the community in which they serve. This is all because they are expected to step up when things go bad and put their lives on the line trying, and hopefully succeeding, in protecting their community. Yes, being a police officer is sometimes a dangerous profession. If they're just going to behave like Mall rent-a-cops, they should be compensated accordingly.
Well the Sheriff did stay busy doing other things... 
Hardly the first or likely the last Sheriff wanting to their picture taken with famous politicians. I imagine there is probably one with him of any famous Republican politicians that came to town too.
If there was the alt left would have published them already.....
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Leftists would have a field day and remarkably linking the mess to Trump. You can bet the barn.
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Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind.
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