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The Teachers’ Revolt Spreads to Arizona
Topic Started: Apr 28 2018, 09:28 AM (351 Views)
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Apr 30 2018, 04:06 PM
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Apr 28 2018, 10:26 PM

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Today's education has changed little in 200 years, it's very regressive because it's been hijacked by progressives who are only concerned about their own pay, benefits and pensions.

If we eliminated teachers salaries, pensions and healthcare we could easily provide computers, supplies and more attention to special needs children. Remember, computers don't go on strike, they don't molest students, they focus on curriculum and they won't teach students to hate their country and to become victims! Yes ẃe can!
As soon as you write - "...hijacked by progressives who are only concerned about their own pay, benefits and pensions." we're done because you are on a conservative political rant that disrespects the vast majority of amazing men and women who are dedicated educators teaching our nations children. And that also have a right to expect a living wage for the job they do.

Men and women will educate our children and not machines or we will produce machines and not educated free thinking indiiduals.




You aren't able to see the future are you? Intelligent, interactive software WILL educate our children. It will eliminate the discrepancy between rich and poor students, it won't go on strike and it won't poison the minds of our children like the current bunch of liberal unionized teachers.

It's just a matter of time.
The future? No, its not the future.

We teach children in schools, not institutions. You don't raise a healthy child by machine.

Your entire rant is about political bias and it could not care a wit about the students.



Change scares regressive people, don't worry, it will happen.
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In Arizona and other states where teachers have recently gone on strike, pay is a central issue: the average American teacher earns five per cent less than he did in 2009. (In Arizona, the average teacher salary fell from fifty-three thousand to forty-seven thousand dollars in that time. Arizona schools are in crisis. Most of them have been closed for this week. Per-student spending has fallen fourteen per cent in the past decade, and some two thousand classrooms have no permanent instructors. Between 2010 and 2015, Arizona’s rate of teacher turnover was twenty-three per cent in traditional public schools and thirty-three per cent in charters. At Arizona’s three public universities, enrollment in undergraduate and graduate teaching programs has dropped by nearly twenty per cent since 2008. Over the same period, nationally, the number of college students majoring in education declined by fourteen per cent.
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Apr 30 2018, 09:01 AM
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I suppose you can show a correlation between academic achievement and teacher salaries....Put up or shut up.................. :)

Your impolite command is ignored. Your request is not unreasonable but the topic is too vast for an on-line post. Academic achievement as defined by standardized national testing does correlate to teachers' salaries, although the correlation is not 100% (no correlation is). Teachers' salaries are influenced by cost of living and median salaries in the states. This further complicates the calculation. Student achievement is also effected by parent education level, class size and other factors. Student achievement correlates strongly with teacher education level.

Here are two rankings. I think the reflect the correlation you ask for:
The 10 states where teachers get paid the most:

1. Alaska: $77,843

2. New York: $76,593

3. Connecticut: $75,867

4. California: $72,050

5. Massachusetts: $71,587

6. New Jersey: $70,700

7. Rhode Island: $67,533

8. Maryland: $65,257

9. Illinois: $65,153

10. Virginia: $63,493

The 10 states where teachers get paid the least:

1. Mississippi: $42,043

2. Oklahoma: $42,647

3. South Dakota: $43,200

4. North Carolina: $43,587

5. Arizona: $43,800

6. West Virginia: $45,477

7. Arkansas: $47,053

8. Idaho: $47,063

9. Kansas: $47,127

10. Louisiana: $48,587

http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/teacherbeat/2017/02/which_states_pay_teachers_the_.html?cmp=cpc-goog-ew-topics&ccid=topics&ccag=Teacher+Pay+Article&cckw=%2Bteacher%20%2Bsalary%20%2Bby%20%2Bstate&cccv=content+specific+ad&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIrZHQoYXi2gIVUQeGCh0_CgNHEAAYASAAEgIyqfD_BwE

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The States with the top teachers salaries have the highest home prices....At least in Alaska woods you can build your own log cabin and commute to work on a snowmobile.....I doubt that Students in Alaska have the highest academic scores in the country....Stop trying to compare apples to oranges....Arizona's teachers are spoiled rotten by the taxpayers as our cost of living is much lower than the highest paid States............. :oyvey
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Skip the insults and take a look at what Tony Cullen, the principal of Flag High, in Flagstaff is saying, “I just hired two science teachers, but one backed out because of housing costs. Two years ago, I hired a woman from New York. Once she saw the cost of living, she said no.” For the full story, see: https://www.newyorker.com/news/dispatch/can-arizonas-teachers-still-consider-themselves-middle-class

But who are you going to believe, an Arizona principal or some retired prison guard whose trolling one-liners are a disgrace to Perspectives?
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May 3 2018, 05:38 PM
Skip the insults and take a look at what Tony Cullen, the principal of Flag High, in Flagstaff is saying, “I just hired two science teachers, but one backed out because of housing costs. Two years ago, I hired a woman from New York. Once she saw the cost of living, she said no.” For the full story, see: https://www.newyorker.com/news/dispatch/can-arizonas-teachers-still-consider-themselves-middle-class

But who are you going to believe, an Arizona principal or some retired prison guard whose trolling one-liners are a disgrace to Perspectives?
You should beliieve a retired parole officer who lived and worked in Flagstaff for a couple years....Surprisingly Flagstaff has no shortage of school teachers....What do you know other than an article in the New York Times quoting a school administrator sniveling for Mo' money ??????......... :dunno:
Edited by Robert Stout, May 3 2018, 07:01 PM.
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I know the governor has caved and signed a budget with a 20% raise over three years. The union won. The union makes us strong.
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May 3 2018, 07:18 PM
I know the governor has caved and signed a budget with a 20% raise over three years. The union won. The union makes us strong.
The teachers professional associations are stronger than the taxpayers whose children were abandoned "home alone" by their teachers.........
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