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Kelly thinks he's saving U.S. from disaster, calls Trump 'idiot,' say White House staffers
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IOW Fake news....
To be fair, it's just unconfirmed nor corroborated...but I'm curious, as to why some on here demand to know the identities of anonymous donors of information from the Trump White House, anonymous sources have been used in Media for decades, the famous "Deepthroat" in the Nixon era....or I wonder if some here would have called it fake unless that brave man came out in public with his identity.
Just unconfirmed or uncorroborated.... :oyvey
Yes...that doesn't necessarily imply false or lie...merely uncorroborated but...nice of you to only pick up this thread rather then the other one where I pretty much categorically came down in Kelly's defense... This is not NEWS it's gossip......and regarding you're other thread post a link....
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Not fake news, that's why. yea it is fake news! Kelly proved so.. you alt-left's and alt-left new sources don't get to call Kelly a liar when he says he never said that and has witnesses! it is most surely FAKE NEWS!
but as I said and I stand by what I said this site gives mod's special and different treatment than posters get! and allows whacked out ignorant alt-left's like you c2c to be God's in these forums not real mods! and you are as scandalous and fake as the fake news you post!
this fake news! and must be moved! but no super mods have the guts to do so is the only reason it isn't moved..
I feel your frustration. You are in love with an idiot that has conned you up one side and down another. A man who if he was a liberal you would be off the wall about, right down to whatever infantile name calling you would tag him with. Probably be telling us he turns into a demon at his rallies. Trust me, we all know the enormity of what you must pretend is not happening and never happened to support this "idiot". I have nothing but sympathy and pity for what you are going through. Oh - not fake news. the only real Idiot is You! and all alt-left who are more ignorant than a fence post and so filled with hate you scandalously post lies day after day even when you know they are lies!
the Karma you ignorant alt-left are bringing on yourselves is Yuge! Trump being elected POTUS proves so!
the alt-left DNC is dying so much.. not even millennial's want to be part of your failing lies.. LMFAO the real joke is on You and your loser DNC that's even losing millennial's as we speak! keep on lying c2c, we expect it from Godless hate filled people like you!
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May 2 2018, 07:28 PM
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The media's goal is stir and create division among the administration. Decent reporting won't land front page worthy.
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Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind.
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May 2 2018, 08:35 PM
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This article was updated with Kelly's denial. - Quote:
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Kelly called the allegations "total BS."
"I spend more time with the president than anyone else and we have an incredibly candid and strong relationship," said Kelly in a statement. "He always knows where I stand and he and I both know this story is total BS. I am committed to the president, his agenda, and our country. This is another pathetic attempt to smear people close to President Trump and distract from the administration’s many successes."
So, at best, unless NBC can bet the folks on their side (and make no mistake, they have a side on this story) to come forward and make accusations on the record, this story is nothing more than Unconfirmed hearsay at best. A political hit job by a media outlet at worst. You expect Chief of Staff Kelly to come out and confirm the "idiot" comment or even tell us what he thinks about this President?
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May 2 2018, 08:38 PM
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The bottom line here is that we have a bunch of "off the record" accusations.
We have an ON THE RECORD denial of these accusations. "Off the Record" - standard journalist tool to inform the public.
Nothing nefarious.
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May 2 2018, 08:44 PM
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According to C2C this is news... 
You are among the most blinded and conned people when it comes to President Trump. You hold him to nothing while you ignore all his idiocy, ignorance and lack of honesty. My side by the way is not the one that came up with "Pizzagate", Vince Foster, Kenya-gate,...do you have time in your day for the full tabloid quality list?

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Not fake news, that's why. yea it is fake news! Kelly proved so.. you alt-left's and alt-left new sources don't get to call Kelly a liar when he says he never said that and has witnesses! it is most surely FAKE NEWS!
but as I said and I stand by what I said this site gives mod's special and different treatment than posters get! and allows whacked out ignorant alt-left's like you c2c to be God's in these forums not real mods! and you are as scandalous and fake as the fake news you post!
this fake news! and must be moved! but no super mods have the guts to do so is the only reason it isn't moved..
I feel your frustration. You are in love with an idiot that has conned you up one side and down another. A man who if he was a liberal you would be off the wall about, right down to whatever infantile name calling you would tag him with. Probably be telling us he turns into a demon at his rallies. Trust me, we all know the enormity of what you must pretend is not happening and never happened to support this "idiot". I have nothing but sympathy and pity for what you are going through. Oh - not fake news. the only real Idiot is You! and all alt-left who are more ignorant than a fence post and so filled with hate you scandalously post lies day after day even when you know they are lies!
the Karma you ignorant alt-left are bringing on yourselves is Yuge! Trump being elected POTUS proves so!
the alt-left DNC is dying so much.. not even millennial's want to be part of your failing lies.. LMFAO the real joke is on You and your loser DNC that's even losing millennial's as we speak! keep on lying c2c, we expect it from Godless hate filled people like you! "... you ignorant alt-left..." <--
Since there is no such thing as an "alt-left" the irony of that comment is precious not to mention hilarious.
But lets get back to everything you choose to ignore from this President and how you would never accept it from a liberal President. I'll mention it since you won't touch it and for good reason.
The man is an idiot. He proves it daily and you back it up with your refusal to be honest enough to evaluate him in the same manner you would evaluate him if he was a liberal President.
Oh yeah. I'm flattered you used your SY for the day on me. Such an honor to be the subject of your lack of self-control!
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May 2 2018, 08:55 PM
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I wonder (if my thought is correct and he did not say these things) if there are any grounds to sue NBC in order to compel them to reveal their sources.
Reporters have gone to jail because they won't reveal their sources and for good reason. If sources believe they can't safely speak then that information to the public dries up. When that dries up you are left with those in power speaking their truth only while hiding other truths as well as lies. You remove a part of a free press and the publics right to be informed when you do that.
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The media's goal is stir and create division among the administration. Decent reporting won't land front page worthy. A journalists job is to report.
You have a President that does not want to get reported on unless he controls what is reported. And oddly, you back that.
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Who's next ? Not only is there a whole other column like those two but they ran out of room on the wall behind her and turned the corner to a new wall to start row four.
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Who's next ?
Not only is there a whole other column like those two but they ran out of room on the wall behind her and turned the corner to a new wall to start row four. Surely the Obama holdovers would have been taken out....
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Who's next ?
Not only is there a whole other column like those two but they ran out of room on the wall behind her and turned the corner to a new wall to start row four.
Surely the Obama holdovers would have been taken out.... Whoops....Looks as though they weren't....Of course not....That would ruin the effect.... :oyvey
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Who's next ?
Not only is there a whole other column like those two but they ran out of room on the wall behind her and turned the corner to a new wall to start row four.
Surely the Obama holdovers would have been taken out....
Whoops....Looks as though they weren't....Of course not....That would ruin the effect.... :oyvey Trump's worse sin was not going to the Whitehouse Correspondent's Dinner....That must be unbearable for media types...Of course they demand impeachment............
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I wonder (if my thought is correct and he did not say these things) if there are any grounds to sue NBC in order to compel them to reveal their sources.
Reporters have gone to jail because they won't reveal their sources and for good reason. If sources believe they can't safely speak then that information to the public dries up. When that dries up you are left with those in power speaking their truth only while hiding other truths as well as lies. You remove a part of a free press and the publics right to be informed when you do that. The problem I have is that when the press has an agenda, and the press has been shown to have an agenda in recent times, then they can use the cover of "off the record" sources for complete fabrications.
It is a kangaroo court where the accused has zero ability to defend themselves because they can never face their accusers.
Kelly has been accused of saying something that would be out of character for a man of his experience. He has flatly denied that he said it but unless there is a course of action that allows him to bring his accusers into the light then he basically has no possibility of getting satisfaction.
In the early days of our country he could have challenged the reporter to a duel for his slander.
Personally, I would have NBC produce evidence for their story or I would revoke their press privileges.
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I wonder (if my thought is correct and he did not say these things) if there are any grounds to sue NBC in order to compel them to reveal their sources.
Reporters have gone to jail because they won't reveal their sources and for good reason. If sources believe they can't safely speak then that information to the public dries up. When that dries up you are left with those in power speaking their truth only while hiding other truths as well as lies. You remove a part of a free press and the publics right to be informed when you do that.
The problem I have is that when the press has an agenda, and the press has been shown to have an agenda in recent times, then they can use the cover of "off the record" sources for complete fabrications. It is a kangaroo court where the accused has zero ability to defend themselves because they can never face their accusers. Kelly has been accused of saying something that would be out of character for a man of his experience. He has flatly denied that he said it but unless there is a course of action that allows him to bring his accusers into the light then he basically has no possibility of getting satisfaction. In the early days of our country he could have challenged the reporter to a duel for his slander. Personally, I would have NBC produce the accusers or revoke their press privileges. Exactly....The use of anonymous sources has exploded in the last couple of years....It's now that bad that rarely is there a News Story that doesn't have at least one unnamed source....It's getting way beyond a joke....
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I wonder (if my thought is correct and he did not say these things) if there are any grounds to sue NBC in order to compel them to reveal their sources.
Reporters have gone to jail because they won't reveal their sources and for good reason. If sources believe they can't safely speak then that information to the public dries up. When that dries up you are left with those in power speaking their truth only while hiding other truths as well as lies. You remove a part of a free press and the publics right to be informed when you do that.
The problem I have is that when the press has an agenda, and the press has been shown to have an agenda in recent times, then they can use the cover of "off the record" sources for complete fabrications. It is a kangaroo court where the accused has zero ability to defend themselves because they can never face their accusers. Kelly has been accused of saying something that would be out of character for a man of his experience. He has flatly denied that he said it but unless there is a course of action that allows him to bring his accusers into the light then he basically has no possibility of getting satisfaction. In the early days of our country he could have challenged the reporter to a duel for his slander. Personally, I would have NBC produce evidence for their story or I would revoke their press privileges. You would remove basic Press Freedoms? That's scary.
And no, the press does not report with an agenda. There are pundits on networks that do but no, you are wrong about the press.
"Off the record" is not a cover. Maybe our friends at "Fox News" or "Breitbart" use it as such but no, its not a cover; its an important, essential and standard area of operation for a free press to inform a free society.
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I wonder (if my thought is correct and he did not say these things) if there are any grounds to sue NBC in order to compel them to reveal their sources.
Reporters have gone to jail because they won't reveal their sources and for good reason. If sources believe they can't safely speak then that information to the public dries up. When that dries up you are left with those in power speaking their truth only while hiding other truths as well as lies. You remove a part of a free press and the publics right to be informed when you do that.
The problem I have is that when the press has an agenda, and the press has been shown to have an agenda in recent times, then they can use the cover of "off the record" sources for complete fabrications. It is a kangaroo court where the accused has zero ability to defend themselves because they can never face their accusers. Kelly has been accused of saying something that would be out of character for a man of his experience. He has flatly denied that he said it but unless there is a course of action that allows him to bring his accusers into the light then he basically has no possibility of getting satisfaction. In the early days of our country he could have challenged the reporter to a duel for his slander. Personally, I would have NBC produce the accusers or revoke their press privileges.
Exactly....The use of anonymous sources has exploded in the last couple of years....It's now that bad that rarely is there a News Story that doesn't have at least one unnamed source....It's getting way beyond a joke.... It hasn't "exploded".
Same now as it always has been. Dishonest claims from those with an agenda to tear down a free press to protect themselves from exposure is what has been introduced and increased.
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I wonder (if my thought is correct and he did not say these things) if there are any grounds to sue NBC in order to compel them to reveal their sources.
Reporters have gone to jail because they won't reveal their sources and for good reason. If sources believe they can't safely speak then that information to the public dries up. When that dries up you are left with those in power speaking their truth only while hiding other truths as well as lies. You remove a part of a free press and the publics right to be informed when you do that.
The problem I have is that when the press has an agenda, and the press has been shown to have an agenda in recent times, then they can use the cover of "off the record" sources for complete fabrications. It is a kangaroo court where the accused has zero ability to defend themselves because they can never face their accusers. Kelly has been accused of saying something that would be out of character for a man of his experience. He has flatly denied that he said it but unless there is a course of action that allows him to bring his accusers into the light then he basically has no possibility of getting satisfaction. In the early days of our country he could have challenged the reporter to a duel for his slander. Personally, I would have NBC produce the accusers or revoke their press privileges.
Exactly....The use of anonymous sources has exploded in the last couple of years....It's now that bad that rarely is there a News Story that doesn't have at least one unnamed source....It's getting way beyond a joke....
It hasn't " exploded". Same now as it always has been. Dishonest claims from those with an agenda to tear down a free press to protect themselves from exposure is what has been introduced and increased. Yeah....Yeah....Sure....
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The problem I have is that when the press has an agenda, and the press has been shown to have an agenda in recent times, then they can use the cover of "off the record" sources for complete fabrications. It is a kangaroo court where the accused has zero ability to defend themselves because they can never face their accusers. Kelly has been accused of saying something that would be out of character for a man of his experience. He has flatly denied that he said it but unless there is a course of action that allows him to bring his accusers into the light then he basically has no possibility of getting satisfaction. In the early days of our country he could have challenged the reporter to a duel for his slander. Personally, I would have NBC produce the accusers or revoke their press privileges.
Exactly....The use of anonymous sources has exploded in the last couple of years....It's now that bad that rarely is there a News Story that doesn't have at least one unnamed source....It's getting way beyond a joke....
It hasn't " exploded". Same now as it always has been. Dishonest claims from those with an agenda to tear down a free press to protect themselves from exposure is what has been introduced and increased.
Yeah....Yeah....Sure.... Deal with facts or don't, whether you care for it or not.
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