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Giuliani: Trump reimbursed Cohen for $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels
Topic Started: May 2 2018, 10:32 PM (615 Views)
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May 3 2018, 04:43 AM
But, but, but, but... President Trump said he didn't know anything about it.

So obviously Mr. Giuliani is lying.

:blackheli:


My first thought was that Giuliani let his mouth get ahead of his brain, which not something a lawyer is supposed to let happen on national TV.

However, Trump seems to be OK with this, and I don't think Giuliani is that dumb. This makes me think the whole thing was carefully planned. Maybe Giuliani and Trump are aware of some of the records seized by the FBI in the raid on Cohen's office, and a just getting ahead of the story before the next shoe drops.
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Trump lied again. Giuliani lied again. Those guys are scared witless over whatever it is in the Cohen papers and their lack of control over it. The crisis draws ever nearer.
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Trump's support for working women should be applauded. Democrats give a paltry $50/month in SNAP payments, Trump provides them a comfortable living.

Enough of the distraction how about that economy? Millions of people are being lifted out of poverty! Some are talking about making Trump a king? Is that necessary?
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Still curious why Trump an alleged billionaire had to borrow(or be loaned) $130,000 from his lawyer to pay off Daniels, and then why Trump an alleged billionaire had to pay it back in installments.
Ever notice the only 2 people Trump refuses to speak ill of are Stormy Daniels and Vladimir Putin?
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May 3 2018, 10:31 AM
Still curious why Trump an alleged billionaire had to borrow(or be loaned) $130,000 from his lawyer to pay off Daniels, and then why Trump an alleged billionaire had to pay it back in installments.
Same reason it was "easier" for Hillary to pay an IT guy to build and maintain her private server, including communications, software and security than to use the already established secure government servers that was free for her use.

Is it clear now?
Edited by PATruth, May 3 2018, 10:36 AM.
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May 3 2018, 10:35 AM
StillCrazy1
May 3 2018, 10:31 AM
Still curious why Trump an alleged billionaire had to borrow(or be loaned) $130,000 from his lawyer to pay off Daniels, and then why Trump an alleged billionaire had to pay it back in installments.
Same reason it was "easier" for Hillary to pay an IT guy to build and maintain her private server, including communications, software and security than to use the already established secure government servers that was free for her use.

Is it clear now?
No it isn't. Billionaires don't need their lawyers to loan them money.
Ever notice the only 2 people Trump refuses to speak ill of are Stormy Daniels and Vladimir Putin?
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May 3 2018, 10:42 AM
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May 3 2018, 10:35 AM
StillCrazy1
May 3 2018, 10:31 AM
Still curious why Trump an alleged billionaire had to borrow(or be loaned) $130,000 from his lawyer to pay off Daniels, and then why Trump an alleged billionaire had to pay it back in installments.
Same reason it was "easier" for Hillary to pay an IT guy to build and maintain her private server, including communications, software and security than to use the already established secure government servers that was free for her use.

Is it clear now?
No it isn't. Billionaires don't need their lawyers to loan them money.
Not clear? Why would a government employee use their own money to build and maintain their own private server? That's "easier" than letting government IT people to do it? Have you ever built and maintained a server, especially one secure enough to send classified and top secret emails?

If you can answer that I'll tell you exactly why a billionaire would use their lawyers to loan someone money.
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StillCrazy1
May 3 2018, 10:31 AM
Still curious why Trump an alleged billionaire had to borrow(or be loaned) $130,000 from his lawyer to pay off Daniels, and then why Trump an alleged billionaire had to pay it back in installments.
I wonder if Trump deducted the hush money as "legal expenses" on his taxes.

If he did, I'm sure we will eventually find out.
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StillCrazy1
May 3 2018, 10:31 AM
Still curious why Trump an alleged billionaire had to borrow(or be loaned) $130,000 from his lawyer to pay off Daniels, and then why Trump an alleged billionaire had to pay it back in installments.
You seem to have the entire event wrong. No one loaned Trump anything. The lawyer got a loan, not Trump. There are hundreds of reasons why he would pay his lawyer in anyway he and the lawyer saw fit.
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PATruth
May 3 2018, 10:49 AM
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May 3 2018, 10:42 AM
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May 3 2018, 10:35 AM
StillCrazy1
May 3 2018, 10:31 AM
Still curious why Trump an alleged billionaire had to borrow(or be loaned) $130,000 from his lawyer to pay off Daniels, and then why Trump an alleged billionaire had to pay it back in installments.
Same reason it was "easier" for Hillary to pay an IT guy to build and maintain her private server, including communications, software and security than to use the already established secure government servers that was free for her use.

Is it clear now?
No it isn't. Billionaires don't need their lawyers to loan them money.
Not clear? Why would a government employee use their own money to build and maintain their own private server? That's "easier" than letting government IT people to do it? Have you ever built and maintained a server, especially one secure enough to send classified and top secret emails?

If you can answer that I'll tell you exactly why a billionaire would use their lawyers to loan someone money.
A bigger question might be did Ma Barker's :drinking: non government IT people have the necessary top secret security clearances to even be involved with her computer? This is why Comey said the Ma :drinking: displayed a serious lack of judgment with regard to her handling of her private server. No wonder no one wanted her as our president. We got Trump instead. Whose fault is that?
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thoughtless
May 3 2018, 10:53 AM
StillCrazy1
May 3 2018, 10:31 AM
Still curious why Trump an alleged billionaire had to borrow(or be loaned) $130,000 from his lawyer to pay off Daniels, and then why Trump an alleged billionaire had to pay it back in installments.
I wonder if Trump deducted the hush money as "legal expenses" on his taxes.

If he did, I'm sure we will eventually find out.
You will be wondering about that question for the rest of your life I suspect. It will give you many hours of ponder in your old age I suppose. :oyvey
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May 3 2018, 11:13 AM
thoughtless
May 3 2018, 10:53 AM
StillCrazy1
May 3 2018, 10:31 AM
Still curious why Trump an alleged billionaire had to borrow(or be loaned) $130,000 from his lawyer to pay off Daniels, and then why Trump an alleged billionaire had to pay it back in installments.
I wonder if Trump deducted the hush money as "legal expenses" on his taxes.

If he did, I'm sure we will eventually find out.
You will be wondering about that question for the rest of your life I suspect. It will give you many hours of ponder in your old age I suppose. :oyvey
I doubt that Trump paid in installments because he didn't have the money.

It would be easy for an investigator to see if the payments were itemized though. There might even be a 1099 form to look at.
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Ex-White House ethics chief: Trump just admitted filing false financial disclosure
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May 3 2018, 11:11 AM
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May 3 2018, 10:49 AM
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May 3 2018, 10:42 AM
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May 3 2018, 10:35 AM
StillCrazy1
May 3 2018, 10:31 AM
Still curious why Trump an alleged billionaire had to borrow(or be loaned) $130,000 from his lawyer to pay off Daniels, and then why Trump an alleged billionaire had to pay it back in installments.
Same reason it was "easier" for Hillary to pay an IT guy to build and maintain her private server, including communications, software and security than to use the already established secure government servers that was free for her use.

Is it clear now?
No it isn't. Billionaires don't need their lawyers to loan them money.
Not clear? Why would a government employee use their own money to build and maintain their own private server? That's "easier" than letting government IT people to do it? Have you ever built and maintained a server, especially one secure enough to send classified and top secret emails?

If you can answer that I'll tell you exactly why a billionaire would use their lawyers to loan someone money.
A bigger question might be did Ma Barker's :drinking: non government IT people have the necessary top secret security clearances to even be involved with her computer? This is why Comey said the Ma :drinking: displayed a serious lack of judgment with regard to her handling of her private server. No wonder no one wanted her as our president. We got Trump instead. Whose fault is that?
The left, knee deep in denial accepted Hillary's "it was easier" to maintain her own servers than to use existing government networks. Think about that, that is so completely absurd it's mindboggling. What's worse is this involves State Department secrets, this involves known attempts to hack her homegrown servers. Why did she do it? Even a moron can figure this one out, Hillary was running a full blown crime syndicate and she needed COMPLETE control over her emails so she could erase them when she got caught. Now the left is focused on Trump paying a whore money BEFORE he was president? The left acting like they care about integrity is beyond hypocritical.
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May 2 2018, 11:08 PM
So now that they can't get Trump on a campaign violation for this...what will they try next? Anything, anything? After all, we don't investigate crimes in this country anymore, we investigate people.
the next move should be Stormy Daniels being charged with blackmail and extortion! that Gold digger and gold diggers like her would stop extorting if she was charged! that scank whore needs to be taught a real lesson..


Killary, DNC, Obummer's DOJ and FBI all Lied and Spied and Good People Died!
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Katoblue
May 3 2018, 02:02 PM
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May 2 2018, 11:08 PM
So now that they can't get Trump on a campaign violation for this...what will they try next? Anything, anything? After all, we don't investigate crimes in this country anymore, we investigate people.
the next move should be Stormy Daniels being charged with blackmail and extortion! that Gold digger and gold diggers like her would stop extorting if she was charged! that scank whore needs to be taught a real lesson..


So sayeth the Women For Trump
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May 3 2018, 02:20 PM
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May 3 2018, 02:02 PM
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May 2 2018, 11:08 PM
So now that they can't get Trump on a campaign violation for this...what will they try next? Anything, anything? After all, we don't investigate crimes in this country anymore, we investigate people.
the next move should be Stormy Daniels being charged with blackmail and extortion! that Gold digger and gold diggers like her would stop extorting if she was charged! that scank whore needs to be taught a real lesson..


So sayeth the Women For Trump
you betcha! and don't You forget it! funny have you ever said the same thing to women following Billy boy and Killary? I don't believe you ever have hypocrite!

I do believe it was the prostitutes and gold digging whores that supported Killary.. she taught them no doubt how to blackmail and extort too! why is it all alt-left are criminals and scandalous liars? it must be a requirement to be an alt-left!



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Killary, DNC, Obummer's DOJ and FBI all Lied and Spied and Good People Died!
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May 3 2018, 02:02 PM
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May 2 2018, 11:08 PM
So now that they can't get Trump on a campaign violation for this...what will they try next? Anything, anything? After all, we don't investigate crimes in this country anymore, we investigate people.
the next move should be Stormy Daniels being charged with blackmail and extortion! that Gold digger and gold diggers like her would stop extorting if she was charged! that scank whore needs to be taught a real lesson..


Stormy Daniels has taken, and passed a lie-detector test.

That's something Trump couldn't do.
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Federal campaign finance laws are unbelievably complex. They are a legal specialty with the legal team of each candidate having an expert on staff or on call as the occasion arises. When issue involving these laws come up in a campaign, the legal staff and the candidate are briefed on the law and the options by the specialist.

What is astounding in the Stormy affair is that neither Trump nor Giuliani appear to have been given the specialized legal counsel that the campaign finance laws require. Trump simply lied his head off and got caught. Giuliani is more puzzling as he ought to know better. His proclamation on Fox that the payment to Stormy had no legal risk because campaign bank accounts were not used is childishly absurd. Rudi is a former federal prosecutor. He made his bones prosecuting the mob; still, he ought to know that campaign law is tricky and he needed expert advice for the legal team. Very puzzling.
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George Conway Appears To Shut Down Rudy Giuliani's Claim About Stormy Daniels Payment

George Conway, a high-profile attorney and the husband of White House counselor Kellyanne Conway, on Thursday appeared to once again question claims made by President Donald Trump’s legal team.

Rudy Giuliani, the former New York City mayor who recently joined Trump’s ever-evolving roster of attorneys, revealed Wednesday that Trump had reimbursed his personal lawyer Michael Cohen for the $130,000 payment to Stephanie Clifford, the adult film star who goes by her stage name Stormy Daniels.

Legal experts have argued that Cohen’s hefty payment to Daniels to silence her about her alleged affair with Trump may have violated campaign finance laws since it was meant to quash negative media coverage about Trump in the days leading up to the 2016 election.

Giuliani said Wednesday such a violation never occurred because Trump used his own money to reimburse Cohen. But Conway seemed to suggest otherwise. https://www.yahoo.com/news/george-conway-appears-shut-down-143640939.html

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