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Venezuela Defeated the U.S. in Its Election. Now It Must Build an Independent Economy.
Topic Started: May 28 2018, 08:26 PM (246 Views)
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Upon returning to the United States from Venezuela and reading the terrible media reporting of the election, it was evident that the people of the United States are being lied to. The Intrepid News Fund and Venezuela Analysis invited me and others to come to Venezuela for the election to see first hand what actually happened so we could report what we saw and break the media blockade against Venezuela.

The US is leading an economic war against Venezuela that is causing tremendous damage, but there is also a media blockade preventing the truth from being told. Mayor Carlos Alcala Cordones of Vargas, speaking to foreign delegations, told us the media blockade was more damaging than the economic blockade
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https://www.truthdig.com/articles/venezuela-defeated-the-u-s-in-its-election-now-it-must-build-an-independent-economy/
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Republicans sign checks on the front, democrats sign them on the back…True story!
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"The presidential election this month was a farce. Every reasonably legitimate alternative to the toxic incumbent, Nicolas Maduro, was barred from running. Many such prospective candidates were in prison. The media had shriveled, ensuring that dissenting parties could not get anything remotely resembling a fair hearing."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/db7b8b24-2afd-363c-8fa8-a2c90c87eb2d/ss_editorial%3A-greed%2C-rampant.html

The only one's defeated were the Venezuelan people. This is what a liberal paradise looks like, starvation, no medical supplies, government brutality and massive corruption. This is what Bernie Sander's dreams of at night.

"No. No he won't. We'll stop it."
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May 29 2018, 11:05 AM
"The presidential election this month was a farce. Every reasonably legitimate alternative to the toxic incumbent, Nicolas Maduro, was barred from running. Many such prospective candidates were in prison. The media had shriveled, ensuring that dissenting parties could not get anything remotely resembling a fair hearing."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/db7b8b24-2afd-363c-8fa8-a2c90c87eb2d/ss_editorial%3A-greed%2C-rampant.html

The only one's defeated were the Venezuelan people. This is what a liberal paradise looks like, starvation, no medical supplies, government brutality and massive corruption. This is what Bernie Sander's dreams of at night.

If it's such a certainty that Venezuela will fail, why does the US continue imposing economic sanctions on them ? Surely the US won't care if they nationalize their own oil production, dump the petrodollar and sell their oil to China .
Edited by _g R_, May 29 2018, 11:16 AM.
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May 29 2018, 11:15 AM
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May 29 2018, 11:05 AM
"The presidential election this month was a farce. Every reasonably legitimate alternative to the toxic incumbent, Nicolas Maduro, was barred from running. Many such prospective candidates were in prison. The media had shriveled, ensuring that dissenting parties could not get anything remotely resembling a fair hearing."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/db7b8b24-2afd-363c-8fa8-a2c90c87eb2d/ss_editorial%3A-greed%2C-rampant.html

The only one's defeated were the Venezuelan people. This is what a liberal paradise looks like, starvation, no medical supplies, government brutality and massive corruption. This is what Bernie Sander's dreams of at night.

If it's such a certainty that Venezuela will fail, why does the US continue imposing economic sanctions on them ? Surely the US won't care if they nationalize their own oil production, dump the petrodollar and sell their oil to China .
They nationalized their oil production years ago, where have you been? Since then their production has dropped in half. Do you really expect a group of Latin American socialist to run an oil company efficiently?

The US has nothing to do with their failures, they owe the Russians and the Chinese billions and they are free to sell their oil to whoever they want.

They are on the Bernie Sanders's plan, I assume you approve of the results?

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From 2007
https://venezuelanalysis.com/news/2245

Oil production in the Orinoco Oil Belt, which is said to contain the world’s largest reserves of extra-heavy oil, is currently being conducted via joint ventures between Venezuela’s state-owned oil company PDVSA and a wide variety of foreign oil companies. Joint ventures that were started under Chavez in the Oil Belt have all maintained a minimum 60% ownership for PDVSA, but previous arrangements gave PDVSA a minority stake.

These earlier joint ventures, which involve ExxonMobil, ChevronTexaco, Statoil, ConocoPhillips, and BP, will be transformed so that PDVSA will have a minimum 60% stake.

In the course of 2005 the Chavez government already embarked on a similar project, when it transformed so-called operating agreements in Venezuela’s older oil fields into joint ventures. Here a wide variety of foreign companies were extracting Venezuelan oil under contract with PDVSA. 30 out of 32 such operating agreements were transformed by the end of 2005. Only two challenged the transition in court.

“We are recovering property and management in these strategic areas,” said Chavez. “The privatization of oil is over in Venezuela. This was the last area that we hadn’t recovered. This is the true nationalization of the oil. The oil belongs to all Venezuelans.”

Venezuela’s oil industry had been under private control until 1974, when Venezuela nationalized it. In the 1990’s, though, PDVSA engaged in a so-called “oil opening,” where it allowed more and more private companies to extract oil, via majority shares in joint ventures and the operating agreements.

Chavez supporters have long argued that oil was never truly nationalized in Venezuela because the same management controlled oil production after nationalization and that the oil industry never really operated under government control until the old management was fired in the wake of the December 2002 to January 2003 oil industry shutdown.
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May 29 2018, 11:58 AM
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May 29 2018, 11:15 AM
PATruth
May 29 2018, 11:05 AM
"The presidential election this month was a farce. Every reasonably legitimate alternative to the toxic incumbent, Nicolas Maduro, was barred from running. Many such prospective candidates were in prison. The media had shriveled, ensuring that dissenting parties could not get anything remotely resembling a fair hearing."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/db7b8b24-2afd-363c-8fa8-a2c90c87eb2d/ss_editorial%3A-greed%2C-rampant.html

The only one's defeated were the Venezuelan people. This is what a liberal paradise looks like, starvation, no medical supplies, government brutality and massive corruption. This is what Bernie Sander's dreams of at night.

If it's such a certainty that Venezuela will fail, why does the US continue imposing economic sanctions on them ? Surely the US won't care if they nationalize their own oil production, dump the petrodollar and sell their oil to China .
They nationalized their oil production years ago, where have you been? Since then their production has dropped in half. Do you really expect a group of Latin American socialist to run an oil company efficiently?

The US has nothing to do with their failures, they owe the Russians and the Chinese billions and they are free to sell their oil to whoever they want.

They are on the Bernie Sanders's plan, I assume you approve of the results?

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May 29 2018, 06:06 AM
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Killings by security forces rife in Venezuela, rule of law ‘virtually absent’: U.N.

Venezuelan security forces suspected of killing hundreds of demonstrators and alleged criminals enjoy immunity from prosecution, indicating that the rule of law is “virtually absent” in the country, the United Nations said on Friday.

The U.N. human rights office called on the government to bring perpetrators to justice and said it was sending its report to the International Criminal Court (ICC), whose prosecutor opened a preliminary investigation in February.

The U.N. report cited “credible, shocking” accounts of extrajudicial killings of young men during crime-fighting operations in poor neighbourhoods conducted without arrest warrants. Security forces would tamper with the scene so that there appeared to have been an exchange of fire, it said.

There was no immediate response from the government of President Nicolas Maduro to the report.

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The opposition will probably delay dismantling the roadblocks and continue their terror attacks to extort maximum concessions from the government. But opposition extremists also hope to provoke the use of security forces to clear the roadblocks, kill the national dialogue and offer a pretext for international condemnation or some kind of intervention. This follows the model of the US controlled but volatile opposition in Venezuela. While some observers suggest the US government does not want Nicaragua to collapse, fearing even more migration to the US and increased organized crime, few believe the US power elites and their government worry about the well-being of people in Central America.

No single factor explains what is going on in Nicaragua, where a shifting kaleidoscope of interests makes events confusing and unpredictable. While the Sandinista government is negotiating in good faith, US Senate Foreign Relations Committee's Bob Corker’s June 11th visit to Managua offered another example of splits between mainstream US Republicans, the erratic Trump administration and the sinister US anti-Cuban mafia supporting Nicaragua’s opposition extremists. Nicaragua has strong relations with Japan, Taiwan and South Korea, whose business communities are probably lobbying against destabilizing Nicaragua. Caribbean nations in the OAS are probably also defending Nicaragua, just as most of them have defended Cuba and Venezuela
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https://telesurtv.net/english/opinion/Nicaraguas-Crisis---the-Latest-Stage-in-a-Permanent-War-20180617-0021.html
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Maduro is putting his people on the Russian Holomodor Diet.

State sponsored famine..... Courtesy of the Age of Stalin..

Trump needs to focus more so on the male vote. He should have nationalized the Boy Scouts when they decided to admit girls.

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May 28 2018, 08:26 PM
Upon returning to the United States from Venezuela and reading the terrible media reporting of the election, it was evident that the people of the United States are being lied to. The Intrepid News Fund and Venezuela Analysis invited me and others to come to Venezuela for the election to see first hand what actually happened so we could report what we saw and break the media blockade against Venezuela.

The US is leading an economic war against Venezuela that is causing tremendous damage, but there is also a media blockade preventing the truth from being told. Mayor Carlos Alcala Cordones of Vargas, speaking to foreign delegations, told us the media blockade was more damaging than the economic blockade
.


https://www.truthdig.com/articles/venezuela-defeated-the-u-s-in-its-election-now-it-must-build-an-independent-economy/
What? Huh? Are you for real?

Truthdig? Telesur?

Do you have ANY knowledge of the Venezuelan oil industry? Do you have any idea of the complete and total catastrophe that is the Venezuelan economy today? The hunger, the deaths. The complete transformation of Venezuelan society? Do you know who did it? Any clue? Do you know who was in charge for, say, 19 friggen years? Hmmm?


Posting 'far' left-wing crappola will not get you very far here. You chose the wrong topic.


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Jun 22 2018, 03:35 PM
_g R_
May 28 2018, 08:26 PM
Upon returning to the United States from Venezuela and reading the terrible media reporting of the election, it was evident that the people of the United States are being lied to. The Intrepid News Fund and Venezuela Analysis invited me and others to come to Venezuela for the election to see first hand what actually happened so we could report what we saw and break the media blockade against Venezuela.

The US is leading an economic war against Venezuela that is causing tremendous damage, but there is also a media blockade preventing the truth from being told. Mayor Carlos Alcala Cordones of Vargas, speaking to foreign delegations, told us the media blockade was more damaging than the economic blockade
.


https://www.truthdig.com/articles/venezuela-defeated-the-u-s-in-its-election-now-it-must-build-an-independent-economy/
What? Huh? Are you for real?

Truthdig? Telesur?

Do you have ANY knowledge of the Venezuelan oil industry? Do you have any idea of the complete and total catastrophe that is the Venezuelan economy today? The hunger, the deaths. The complete transformation of Venezuelan society? Do you know who did it? Any clue? Do you know who was in charge for, say, 19 friggen years? Hmmm?


Posting 'far' left-wing crappola will not get you very far here. You chose the wrong topic.


Mozart
His degree in ATTANOMICS isn't helping him

Trump needs to focus more so on the male vote. He should have nationalized the Boy Scouts when they decided to admit girls.

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https://youtu.be/3sHomNWFRCA
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Venezuela’s Military Has Taken Over the Water Supply

President Nicolas Maduro’s autocratic regime has handed lucrative industries to the 160,000-member military as the economic collapse gathers speed, from the mineral-rich region of the Arco Minero del Orinoco to top slots at the state oil producer to increasingly precious control over food and water. Maduro has promoted hundreds of officers since he became president in 2013 — there are some 1,000 active and retired generals, admirals and officers in public office, and military officers hold 9 of 32 cabinet posts.

Last week, the president named Evelyn Vasquez, an official of state utility Hidrocapital, as the head of a new water ministry, a move he said would help achieve access and care standards laid out in the United Nations’s Millennium Development Goals. The country was supposed to have reached that landmark by 2015, but the crisis hasn’t respected bureaucratic timetables.

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May 29 2018, 12:56 PM

Chavez supporters have long argued that oil was never truly nationalized in Venezuela because the same management controlled oil production after nationalization and that the oil industry never really operated under government control until the old management was fired in the wake of the December 2002 to January 2003 oil industry shutdown.


Does anyone else see the oxymoron in this excerpt?
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May 28 2018, 08:26 PM
Upon returning to the United States from Venezuela and reading the terrible media reporting of the election, it was evident that the people of the United States are being lied to. The Intrepid News Fund and Venezuela Analysis invited me and others to come to Venezuela for the election to see first hand what actually happened so we could report what we saw and break the media blockade against Venezuela.

The US is leading an economic war against Venezuela that is causing tremendous damage, but there is also a media blockade preventing the truth from being told. Mayor Carlos Alcala Cordones of Vargas, speaking to foreign delegations, told us the media blockade was more damaging than the economic blockade
.


https://www.truthdig.com/articles/venezuela-defeated-the-u-s-in-its-election-now-it-must-build-an-independent-economy/
What? Huh? Are you for real?

Truthdig? Telesur?

Do you have ANY knowledge of the Venezuelan oil industry? Do you have any idea of the complete and total catastrophe that is the Venezuelan economy today? The hunger, the deaths. The complete transformation of Venezuelan society? Do you know who did it? Any clue? Do you know who was in charge for, say, 19 friggen years? Hmmm?


Posting 'far' left-wing crappola will not get you very far here. You chose the wrong topic.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mx6GMMSdrA
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXCo3LfU1wI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5ot_ri1Ox8
Edited by _g R_, Jul 1 2018, 09:59 AM.
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How bad does a country suck when even the president has to go to another country (Cuba of all places) for chemotherapy?
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