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Pedro Sánchez is sworn in as Spain's new prime minister
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Humanitarian considerations have no place in immigration policies.
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Using these picture makes as much sense as Soviet dissidents posting pictures of mutilated Nazis in anti-war campaign. This is an invasion and everything is on the table to stop it.
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I have noted your illiterate response. - H :shakeshead:
Robots are more productive than primitives out of the dark heart of Africa........... :nana:
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Not to mention my paternal ancestors who arrived here from Southern England in the early 1800's
Any man whose parents were born in Southern (God's Country) England should erect a plaque in honour of their majestic roots!

Furthermore, if you tell me they were born in Wiltshire then... All hail King Ringotuna! :tongue:

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The best, as I can recall from a late 19th century book on the family genealogy is that my ancestors hail from somewhere around Salisbury.
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Jun 13 2018, 07:12 AM
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Jun 13 2018, 06:35 AM
Not to mention my paternal ancestors who arrived here from Southern England in the early 1800's
Any man whose parents were born in Southern (God's Country) England should erect a plaque in honour of their majestic roots!

Furthermore, if you tell me they were born in Wiltshire then... All hail King Ringotuna! :tongue:

Cheers
Hughmac
The best, as I can recall from a late 19th century book on the family genealogy is that my ancestors hail from somewhere around Salisbury.
I was born in Salisbury Hospital (Odstock), which, funnily enough was built by the US for its troops during WW2. My home town was Tidworth, which is about 16 miles from Salisbury and is where I grew up. The first mention of Tidworth was in the Domesday Book of 1088 and listed as "Todeorde."

So, my old mate, your ancestors and my family can rightly sing "Wiltshire born and Wiltshire bred; strong in the arms and thick in the head." :tongue:

Cheers
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H4T wrote: lobal] nuclear annihilation is preferable to the pre-Trump immigration/refugee policies.
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I have noted your illiterate response. - H :shakeshead:
Robots are more productive than primitives out of the dark heart of Africa........... :nana:
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H4T wrote: lobal] nuclear annihilation is preferable to the pre-Trump immigration/refugee policies.
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I have noted your illiterate response. - H :shakeshead:
Robots are more productive than primitives out of the dark heart of Africa........... :nana:
Are you confessing that you are a Bot? - H
Tidworth looks like a nice town to grow up in........... :)
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I have noted your illiterate response. - H :shakeshead:
Robots are more productive than primitives out of the dark heart of Africa........... :nana:
Are you confessing that you are a Bot? - H
Tidworth looks like a nice town to grow up in........... :)
It's an Army garrison town situated on Salisbury Plain, which is a huge army-training area for armoured and infantry manoeuvres, as well as a dropping ground for the Paras. A lot of your servicemen trained on Salisbury plain for D-Day, by the way.

It was certainly an adventurous childhood with our dogging the Chieftain and Centurion tanks and soldiers on manoeuvres, pestering the Green Jackets and Gurkhas, amongst other regiments, for cigarettes and sweets from their compo (K-rations) in exchange for the enemies passwords - hell, we were only 12 so they would give us the sweets but not the fags and tell us to clear off.

We used to camp out in the woods when the soldiers had dug in for night manoeuvres, calling out in the dark from our camouflaged tent hidden in the thickets, "Squaddies are twats!" Thank God they never caught us because they would have given us a good hiding.

It was a mystery to them how at 2 in the morning, in the middle of a wood, in the middle of nowhere, then would hear kids insulting them - pissed them off no end :tongue:

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Hughmac
Jun 16 2018, 04:48 AM
ringotuna
Jun 16 2018, 04:31 AM
Hughmac
Jun 13 2018, 07:12 AM
ringotuna
Jun 13 2018, 06:35 AM
Not to mention my paternal ancestors who arrived here from Southern England in the early 1800's
Any man whose parents were born in Southern (God's Country) England should erect a plaque in honour of their majestic roots!

Furthermore, if you tell me they were born in Wiltshire then... All hail King Ringotuna! :tongue:

Cheers
Hughmac
The best, as I can recall from a late 19th century book on the family genealogy is that my ancestors hail from somewhere around Salisbury.
I was born in Salisbury Hospital (Odstock), which, funnily enough was built by the US for its troops during WW2. My home town was Tidworth, which is about 16 miles from Salisbury and is where I grew up. The first mention of Tidworth was in the Domesday Book of 1088 and listed as "Todeorde."

So, my old mate, your ancestors and my family can rightly sing "Wiltshire born and Wiltshire bred; strong in the arms and thick in the head." :tongue:

Cheers
Hughmac
Well imagine that. Just think, if my scoundrel great great great something or another hadn't been running from debtors prison, we might have grown up neighbors. :biggrin:
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Jun 15 2018, 02:39 PM
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Jun 15 2018, 10:29 AM
...."Spain’s socialist government wants to remove barbed wire from border between Europe and Africa." ...
https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/06/spains-socialist-government-wants-to-remove-barbed-wire-from-border-between-europe-and-africa/

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Spain’s new interior minister pledged to do his best to reduce migrants’ injuries by removing barbed wire sections from the border between Europe and Africa. With Ceuta and Melilla, Spain has two land borders on the African continent.

Even though the 20-foot fences are often easily crossed by climbing migrants, apparently, they won’t be enhanced but rather weakened by the new socialist Spanish Government.

“I will do everything possible so that the barbed wire at the borders of Ceuta and Mellila with Morocco are removed (…) it is a priority”, said Interior Minister Fernando Grande-Marlaska to radio station COPE.


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Right.

Perhaps we should suggest to the NEW Spanish Interior Minister, Mr. Fernando Grande-Marlaska, .... :lol: , that he provide ladders to all of the would-be migrants trying to enter Spain? I just noticed that Walmart is having a sale on them next week. Save money, and all that.

Aren't those socialists/commies, ....special?

.... :)


Mozart
Riiiiigghhhht! So have been shot down in a shower of s**t over the Aquarius and the Tommy Robinson, you've now gone for the "Barbed wired." ...And put your foot in it yet again. You see, it's not barbed wire but razor wire along the top of the fence. You do know the difference between barbed wire and razor wire, right?

Let's see, it was a socialist government under Zapatero who originally decided on topping the 6 to 9m high fence with razor wire but after receiving strong criticism from other political parties, (amongst other the PP conservatives) and humanitarian organisations, as well as the EU, he decided to take it down about two years later. Then the PP, after having criticised the socialist for using it, decided to put it up again once they got into office. As with the first time, Spain received widespread condemnation especially after one immigrant bled to death from his wounds.

So, the new socialist government want to do away with the razor-wire that lines the top of the fence and replace it with another measure, more humane.

Of course, your howling, drama queen post doesn't even go there, does it - no, it just says that the "commies" are taking down the wire" as if they were dismantling the whole damned fence, but what do you expect from a rabid-right voiceofeurope site?

So what's plan B, Mozzie? find something else on your sicko-sites that is complete bollocks or at the very least, deliberately leave out facts that put an entirely different light on a subject?

Despite this unrelenting, idiotic quasi-hate-filled content of your latest posts, I, as always, wish you a pleasant weekend with you family and friends ;)

Cheers
Hughmac
Now you're in trouble. Fortified with milk and corn flakes, simple is always best, I gave some thought to your silly response. I poured a lovely cup of coffee afterwards, but found that empty bottle of Baileys Irish Cream Espresso Liqueur in the cupboard. Sigh. Please remind me next week to make that long overdue trip to the liquor store, .... :)

All of us reading this thread were shocked at the dramatic photo's of bloody-sliced arms posted by you-know-who. Yuck. However, the same guy who posted those chilling photo's of migrants getting seriously hurt while "breaking the law," is the same guy who is arguing passionately for the jailing, and life endangering consequences, of filming in front of a courthouse. Filming, ...outside a courthouse. Apparently it's in the Magna Carta, or something. Right. That makes sense. When you break the law, you MUST suffer the consequences, but not if you're a migrant illegally crossing an international border. "There are exceptions to the rule here," he appears to be arguing. ..... :shakeshead:

Sorry, but Hughmac reminds me of the passionate guy standing/shouting from his soapbox on a Sunday afternoon, from Speaker's Corner in Hyde Park, dressed in threadbare clothing and a boller hat, addressing 8 or 9 passers-by and 3 escaped corgi's from Buckingham Palace. "They broke the law! ....and they must suffer the consequences!" Drool hanging from his lips. Firey passion in his eyes. He then points dramatically to a spot across the street where the old Tyburn Tree used to stand and demands that "they should all be hung!" (meaning right-wingers who practice free speech) He gets 3 of his audience to applaud the remarks, but one of the corgi's lifts his hind leg to the soapbox.

The point:

The law. The real problem for Europe today is the lack of enforcement of the law. Every G'damn migrant, in every G'damn country stretching from Pakistan to Sierra Leone, ..... KNOWS this. They've figured it out. It's not hard to do in the age of internet. Once you reach ANYWHERE in Europe, they KNOW that the government there no longer has the means, the ability or the stomach to enforce the existing laws. You make it to ----> ________, and you're set for life. The liberals/socialists/commies of the new Spanish government know this as well. Yup, there are laws on the books which DEMAND that all who enter the Spanish territory from, say, Morocco, must be repatriated. Every one. Out. Vamonos. But, it's a lie. The Italian people lurched onto this lie and voted-in a virulent anti-immigration government. The Austrian, Slovenians, Hungarians, Poles all figured-it-out. The EU was LYING to them. The media was lying to them. The new guy in Italy told the populace that he would actually "deport" over 500,000 migrants. In other words, ...enforce existing laws. That's where the European have become weak, soft and stupid, little different than Rome in 400 AD.

So, Hughmac, if you're really worried about migrants cutting themselves on "razor wire," might I suggest that your new socialist/commie Spanish government merely enforce the, ....law? Get on your soapbox, and tell em! If everyone who attempts to cross-over that fence KNOWS that there is a 99% certainty that they will be returned to 'wherever,' then no one would be silly enough to climb a border fence. Problem solved (!), ...er, without a shot of Bailey's in the morning coffee, ...sigh.

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And another note 'an Herrn Hughmac'....

I just noted that the number 1 news story and/or rumor coming off the Drudge Report this morning (headlines) (TODAY) is the strong possibility that Angela Merkel will be toppled next week. Kaput. Members of the CSU (the Bavarians, .... :) ) of her government are DEMANDING new border controls, or else. Big stuff. Huge. Most astute analysts conclude that THIS will bring down, ...wait for it, ....the EU. The House of Cards is collapsing. Tonight I want you to go to your liquor cabinet, pick-out a lovely Spanish brandy (sighs of jealousy wafting across the Atlantic at the moment, ... :) ), walk into the night air and, ....and, ....look-up. See it? There, in the northwest skies to the very left of the Big Dipper. Goethe's Zeitgeist. See it? The world is shifting under our feet. Pay attention. The Spanish 'far' left-wing loons who finagled their way to power in Madrid are headed for the ash-heap of history. Goethe's Zeitgeist moving the heavens above us. We'd better pay attention, as the Germans are demanding the same today.


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bloody-sliced arms posted by you-know-who. Yuck. However, the same guy who posted those chilling photo's of migrants getting seriously hurt while "breaking the law," is the same guy who is arguing passionately for the jailing, and life endangering consequences, of filming in front of a courthouse. 


Your ability to side slip out of being confronted by your own prolific inaccuracies is worthy of a swallow in aerobatic feats.

Let's see, you spouted about how the commie new pressie of Spain wants to take the barbed wire from the top of the fence. So, I wearily pointed out that it was not barbed wire, which merely snags your clothing and produces minor cuts, but razor wire, that slices you to xxxx - as the images show.

I also pointed out that what the PM actually wants to do is replace it with an affective substitute.

Both of these corrections to your histrionics were completely ignored, passed over, tipped-toed around, in your response. Might I point out that I was not exactly surprised as it is - how can I put this delicately - fecking typical.


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Every G'damn migrant, in every G'damn country stretching from Pakistan to Sierra Leone, ..... KNOWS this. They've figured it out. It's not hard to do in the age of internet. Once you reach ANYWHERE in Europe, they KNOW that the government there no longer has the means, the ability or the stomach to enforce the existing laws


It's called the "beckoning factor" in Spanish: you let some in and the rest, seeing that it is effective, will follow. What you ignore is that Spain and Italy has been returning illegal immigrants constantly - it is not a one-way journey for the vast majority of them.

What is a huge problem is that they are arriving in such numbers that is is overwhelming the processing system.

Now you talk about enforcing the law, but of course, you mean laws that argue your point and not ones that don't. I am referring, of course to the maritime laws and conventions, such as the 1974 Convention for the Safety of Life at Sea. This dictates that any ship learning of persons in distress "should proceed with all speed to their assistance.

There is also the 1982 UN Convention on the Law of the Sea says that every state that has a ship flying its flag should require that ship to rescue those "in distress" at sea.

There is also the 1979 International Convention on Maritime Search and Rescue, which establishes a legal framework for signatories to co-ordinate rescue efforts.

In fact, the International Maritime Organization holds that its member states also have an obligation "to co-ordinate so that persons rescued at sea are disembarked in a place of safety as soon as possible".

Illegal immigrants making land crossing is a much easier problem to deal with, as you can understand.

The trouble is that the immigrants are coming by sea, Mozzie, and the People Traffickers know this, which is why they don't even give the immigrants - whom they charge a thousand-odd euros per head - sufficient fuel and food in their barely floating craft, to even reach mainland Europe, knowing that they will be picked up.

Yes, yes, I know, you subscribe to political parties that propose machine gunning immigrants boats when you come across them out at sea, my fine Herr Von U-Boat Kapitan.

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The Italian people lurched onto this lie and voted-in a virulent anti-immigration government. The Austrian, Slovenians, Hungarians, Poles all figured-it-out.


Ah, yes, Germany, Austria and Italy have formed an "Axis" over this question... Now, why does that sound familiar?


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So, Hughmac, if you're really worried about migrants cutting themselves on "razor wire," might I suggest that your new socialist/commie Spanish government merely enforce the, ....law? 


It does enforce the law, but of course, but that does not interest you, does it, my friend with the Charlie Chaplin moustache... :tongue:

But right at the bottom of all this, Mozzie, is a niggling fact: there is not one country in Africa, from where these people are coming, that was not a European colony, just like your own vegetable patch that you call the USA.

Europe was happy to conquer Africa, turn it into theirs and exploit its natural resources whilst they possibly could but are now being confronted by those ex-wards who want a slice of the European cake. It's called poetic justice.

However, the only way to stop this flow is to turn Africa into a stable society from which people don't feel the need to flee. The problem? There are just not the natural resources in existence for the 3rd world to live like the resource-squandering 1st World.

So, there isn't any way out of this problem, unfortunately. The 1st World needs the resources and cheap labour of the 3rd World to continue living its unsustainable life style, so in terms of the Roman Empire, it's no good nuking the bloody barbarians at the gate - we need them.

Guess we're just going to have to take our chances with a worldwide epidemic and pray we're part of the 10% naturally immune.

Cheers
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Migrants rescued from the Mediterranean and turned away by Italy and Malta have arrived in Spain's port of Valencia.
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Damn, that's a lot of Mexicans. No wait....never mind. :confused:


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A few points to the response above....

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The trouble is that the immigrants are coming by sea, Mozzie, and the People Traffickers know this, which is why they don't even give the immigrants - whom they charge a thousand-odd euros per head - sufficient fuel and food in their barely floating craft, to even reach mainland Europe, knowing that they will be picked up.

Yes, yes, I know, you subscribe to political parties that propose machine gunning immigrants boats when you come across them out at sea, my fine Herr Von U-Boat Kapitan.


Ah. Got it. It's the "we are being overwhelmed" defense. Liberals/Socialists/Commies: "We would surely enforce the existing laws but, you see, there are the maritime laws, there are humanitarian considerations and there are individual human rights for all of these people. What the hell can we do? (Shrug shoulders, raise palms to the air.) Nothing we can do here, let em all in." If you disagree with us, disagree with our well-constructed "big lie," you are a Nazi.

Yup, it is indeed correct to identify all of this, as Hughmac has, as the "beckoning factor" It is the underlying foundation for allowing all of the increasing unchecked migration to continue. "If I got in, so can you." What is obvious to most is that the concept of the "beckoning factor" is simply ignored by the 'far' left-wing of the new Spanish government. They could give a hoot. It's part of the Big Lie. These commies/socialists don't care about their actions being seen as "beckoning factors." It's all a con game. The laws of the land are being purposely ignored. But most of us clear-minded individuals who observe the catastrophe taking place in Europe from afar, myself included, refer to this as the liberal/socialist/commie "bullsh$t factor." Throw all kinds of scheisse up against wall, hope some will stick. "We're trying...! Really. What? You don't believe us?" The simple fact is that migrants are swarming to Europe in ever increasing numbers because of the (yes indeed), the correctly identified beckoning factor. A powerful "open door" migration policy is being signaled to all of Africa and the Middle East. Purposely. The approaching deluge of migrants will be massive, beyond belief. It's just getting started. This 'come hither' foreign policy action, implemented by the liberals/socialists/commies of Europe, is being done in the open. The laws are being ignored, without any explanations given. People are catching-on. Eyes are being opened. The Italian electorate, naming just one instance, was horrified at the influx and promptly voted for anti-immigration parties in the range of nearly 70% Italy. The Italian never agree on, ...anything. Imagine that? Seventy percent.

More later...


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bloody-sliced arms posted by you-know-who. Yuck. However, the same guy who posted those chilling photo's of migrants getting seriously hurt while "breaking the law," is the same guy who is arguing passionately for the jailing, and life endangering consequences, of filming in front of a courthouse. 


Your ability to side slip out of being confronted by your own prolific inaccuracies is worthy of a swallow in aerobatic feats.

Let's see, you spouted about how the commie new pressie of Spain wants to take the barbed wire from the top of the fence. So, I wearily pointed out that it was not barbed wire, which merely snags your clothing and produces minor cuts, but razor wire, that slices you to xxxx - as the images show.

I also pointed out that what the PM actually wants to do is replace it with an affective substitute.

Both of these corrections to your histrionics were completely ignored, passed over, tipped-toed around, in your response. Might I point out that I was not exactly surprised as it is - how can I put this delicately - fecking typical.


Mozart Wrote
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Every G'damn migrant, in every G'damn country stretching from Pakistan to Sierra Leone, ..... KNOWS this. They've figured it out. It's not hard to do in the age of internet. Once you reach ANYWHERE in Europe, they KNOW that the government there no longer has the means, the ability or the stomach to enforce the existing laws


It's called the "beckoning factor" in Spanish: you let some in and the rest, seeing that it is effective, will follow. What you ignore is that Spain and Italy has been returning illegal immigrants constantly - it is not a one-way journey for the vast majority of them.

What is a huge problem is that they are arriving in such numbers that is is overwhelming the processing system.

Now you talk about enforcing the law, but of course, you mean laws that argue your point and not ones that don't. I am referring, of course to the maritime laws and conventions, such as the 1974 Convention for the Safety of Life at Sea. This dictates that any ship learning of persons in distress "should proceed with all speed to their assistance.

There is also the 1982 UN Convention on the Law of the Sea says that every state that has a ship flying its flag should require that ship to rescue those "in distress" at sea.

There is also the 1979 International Convention on Maritime Search and Rescue, which establishes a legal framework for signatories to co-ordinate rescue efforts.

In fact, the International Maritime Organization holds that its member states also have an obligation "to co-ordinate so that persons rescued at sea are disembarked in a place of safety as soon as possible".

Illegal immigrants making land crossing is a much easier problem to deal with, as you can understand.

The trouble is that the immigrants are coming by sea, Mozzie, and the People Traffickers know this, which is why they don't even give the immigrants - whom they charge a thousand-odd euros per head - sufficient fuel and food in their barely floating craft, to even reach mainland Europe, knowing that they will be picked up.

Yes, yes, I know, you subscribe to political parties that propose machine gunning immigrants boats when you come across them out at sea, my fine Herr Von U-Boat Kapitan.

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The Italian people lurched onto this lie and voted-in a virulent anti-immigration government. The Austrian, Slovenians, Hungarians, Poles all figured-it-out.


Ah, yes, Germany, Austria and Italy have formed an "Axis" over this question... Now, why does that sound familiar?


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So, Hughmac, if you're really worried about migrants cutting themselves on "razor wire," might I suggest that your new socialist/commie Spanish government merely enforce the, ....law? 


It does enforce the law, but of course, but that does not interest you, does it, my friend with the Charlie Chaplin moustache... :tongue:

But right at the bottom of all this, Mozzie, is a niggling fact: there is not one country in Africa, from where these people are coming, that was not a European colony, just like your own vegetable patch that you call the USA.

Europe was happy to conquer Africa, turn it into theirs and exploit its natural resources whilst they possibly could but are now being confronted by those ex-wards who want a slice of the European cake. It's called poetic justice.

However, the only way to stop this flow is to turn Africa into a stable society from which people don't feel the need to flee. The problem? There are just not the natural resources in existence for the 3rd world to live like the resource-squandering 1st World.

So, there isn't any way out of this problem, unfortunately. The 1st World needs the resources and cheap labour of the 3rd World to continue living its unsustainable life style, so in terms of the Roman Empire, it's no good nuking the bloody barbarians at the gate - we need them.

Guess we're just going to have to take our chances with a worldwide epidemic and pray we're part of the 10% naturally immune.

Cheers
Hughmac
That’s a lie an you know it. Both Japan and S Korea have higher qualities of life than the West. This is an invasion, and you are a colloborater no different than Hungarian Communist who welcomed Soviet Soldiers it a Greek partisan of Mussolini.

This immigration is an existential threat to western civilization which must be brought to an end by any means nessecary, and that includes razor fence.
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That’s a lie an you know it. Both Japan and S Korea have higher qualities of life than the West. This is an invasion, and you are a colloborater no different than Hungarian Communist who welcomed Soviet Soldiers it a Greek partisan of Mussolini.

This immigration is an existential threat to western civilization which must be brought to an end by any means nessecary, and that includes razor fence.
You take a multi-point post of mine, containing everything from maritime law to world epidemics and you post "That's a lie..." :confused:

Are you having troubling marshalling your thoughts and setting them down in a logical, coherent manner?

What is a lie? Which point are you referring to? The Maritime Law statements? The 10% natural immunity percentage in a global epidemic?

But why you're on the joys of the Japanese economy, let's take a peek at the rascals!

"Japan's economy produced $5.4 trillion in 2017, as measured by purchasing power parity. That makes it the world's fifth largest economy after China, the European Union, the United States, and India. It's not on pace to catch up, because it only grew 1.5 percent.

Japan has 27 million people. Its gross domestic product per capita is $42,700 or 41st in the world. That means its standard of living is lower than the United States or the EU, but higher than China or South Korea."


https://www.thebalance.com/japan-s-economy-recession-effect-on-u-s-and-world-3306007

Oh dear! Seems that you're telling porkies again, doesn't it?

Let's delve back into that link a little:

"Japan's massive debt-to-GDP ratio means Japan owes more than twice as much as it produces annually. The biggest owner of its debt is the Bank of Japan. That has allowed the country to keep spending without worrying about higher interest rates demanded by skittish lenders. "

and

"World’s largest net food importer is because Japan has just one-third as much arable land per person as China."

And of course the point that you drool over; Japan doesn't like immigrants:

"An ageing population means the country must pay out more retirement benefits than it receives in income taxes from the working population. It hires temporary workers from nearby South Asian countries but does not welcome immigrants. That reduces the consumer base."

OK, so let's break away from quotes and I'll takes things out of my memory. Japan recovered from the disaster of the Second World War (Yes, H4T, they lost) by basically copying everybody else's electronic products.

When I was a kid, something that had "Made in Japan" on the bottom of it had the same stigma attached to it as "Made in China has today." But its economy matured and branched out. It really didn't have much option, though, because South Korea used the same strategy; mass produced cheap junk and undercut Japan in that market.

Now it's the giant neighbour, China that has copied the strategy so that China has become the world's workshop for cheap goods, taking every opportunity copy and better foreign technology - a-la-Japanese.

Japan's heavy industry was superseded by Korea's, especially where ship-building is concerned and quite frankly, China is going to wipe the floor with both the Korean and Japanese economies. Japan can't feed itself, has to import all its energy needs and is up to its neck in debt.

The US basically used Japan as a human guinea pig for economic experiments, writing the country's constitution and installing a corporate-minded, social structure, so that the corporation replaced the state, providing life-long employment, health, housing and even organised the workers holidays - all provided by the corporate company.

In fact, it's rather like the British welfare state with its 1948, cradle-to-grave system, providing housing, free health, etc etc, but in Japan's case, to a much greater degree as there were no real checks against corporate might - in Japan, you belonged, lock, stock and barrel to your boss.

But the system is crashing; Japan can't maintain the pensions without printing worthless money and lending itself money to pay the bills. The population is ageing and becoming much more top heavy than the US or Europe where a similar population shift exist. After all, Japan holds the record for longevity and eternal pensions are becoming unbearable.

So, how could Japan do something about the top-heavy population? All over the First World not enough babies are being born because a consumer society now necessitates both adults in a household going out to work to finance their lifestyle and credit debt. Couples are waiting longer to have children and in some cases opt out of it all together. Japan is not only not an exception, but it is also a case in point.

The way out is immigration - they breed like rabbits and their children will end up paying the pensions of the native race. But it is also a recipe for disaster because when the immigrant population outstrips the native one, which it inevitably will, then they are going to refuse this burden.

So, H4T, whether you like it, Japan is sunk whether it takes in immigrants or whether it doesn't - it's all over. Get some postcards whilst you can.

Word of advice: Visit China Before China Visits You.

Cheers
Hughmac
Edited by Hughmac, Jun 17 2018, 04:02 PM.
H4T wrote: lobal] nuclear annihilation is preferable to the pre-Trump immigration/refugee policies.
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