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North Korea Is Winning
Topic Started: Jun 13 2018, 01:02 PM (249 Views)
La Pasionaria
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North Korea Is Winning; https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/06/singapore-summit-kim-jong-un-winning/

"Trump will soon discover that while agreements with North Korea may generate peace prizes, they stop neither the nuclear buildup nor the maniacal threats of war from Pyongyang. And it’s hard not to think Trump is propagandizing when he calls the sub-400-word text “very comprehensive"....

....A real denuclearization of North Korea would be a great step in that direction. Despite the agreement’s words today, that seems a remote possibility. In its absence, the U.S. must keep up the economic and diplomatic pressure on the North Korean state. After today, that may be much harder. Trump’s heart is in the right place: peace. But there is no evidence he has any idea how to maintain and expand a just peace on the Korean Peninsula."
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_g R_
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War mongering from the left. :rollseyes:
Just what we need.
" When we amplify everything ,we hear nothing."
Jon Stewart
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_g R_
Jun 13 2018, 01:07 PM
War mongering from the left. :rollseyes:
Just what we need.
Reality check:

Russian media calls Singapore a ‘victory’ for Kim — and warns Trump is at risk of ‘being manipulated’; https://www.rawstory.com/2018/06/russian-media-calls-singapore-victory-kim-warns-trump-risk-manipulated/

"Some of Russia’s top newspapers this week hailed the Singapore summit between North Korea and the United States as a major victory — for North Korean leader Kim Jong-un.

Steve Rosenberg, the BBC’s Moscow correspondent, reports that coverage in Russian papers has claimed that Kim got the upper hand in his first round of negotiations with President Donald Trump, as the North Korean dictator “got something and gave almost nothing in return.”

A Russian foreign policy analyst quoted by another paper, meanwhile, says that the “positive results for the White House are less obvious” than the results Kim has achieved so far.

Furthermore, this expert went on to say that Trump’s belief that he achieved something historic with the summit “strengthens his self-confidence and his exaggerated belief that he is an outstanding negotiator.”
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There is always more than one reality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZTHyNyqExc
" When we amplify everything ,we hear nothing."
Jon Stewart
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No, Trump is winning and the American people are winning. The only one's miserable are the American left.
"No. No he won't. We'll stop it."
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/
Donald Trump often portrays himself as a savior of the working class who will "protect your job." But a USA TODAY NETWORK analysis found he has been involved in more than 3,500 lawsuits over the past three decades — and a large number of those involve ordinary Americans, like the Friels, who say Trump or his companies have refused to pay them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzl8RFM9naI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej1hlQgwXcA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzqMzX4_1Eg
Edited by _g R_, Jun 13 2018, 02:25 PM.
" When we amplify everything ,we hear nothing."
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PATruth
Jun 13 2018, 02:16 PM
No, Trump is winning and the American people are winning. The only one's miserable are the American left.
Spoken like a true acolyte. Obviously you don't read the premier conservative magazine The National Review:

Kim’s Big Day; https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/06/trump-kim-summit-north-korea-playing-usual-hand/

"Kim Jong-un produced vague assurances of disarmament in exchange for American concessions."

We Didn’t Put It in the Agreement because We Didn’t Have Time’; https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/trump-north-korea-deal-kim-lying-history/

"The skepticism I have about this latest round of promises from North Korea is the exact same skepticism I bring to the Iran deal."

Grading the Singapore Summit https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/kim-trump-summit-singapore-success-too-soon/

"How to grade the Singapore summit? The most fair-minded answer is that it’s too soon to tell."


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La Pasionaria
Jun 13 2018, 03:26 PM
PATruth
Jun 13 2018, 02:16 PM
No, Trump is winning and the American people are winning. The only one's miserable are the American left.
Spoken like a true acolyte. Obviously you don't read the premier conservative magazine The National Review:

Kim’s Big Day; https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/06/trump-kim-summit-north-korea-playing-usual-hand/

"Kim Jong-un produced vague assurances of disarmament in exchange for American concessions."

We Didn’t Put It in the Agreement because We Didn’t Have Time’; https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/trump-north-korea-deal-kim-lying-history/

"The skepticism I have about this latest round of promises from North Korea is the exact same skepticism I bring to the Iran deal."

Grading the Singapore Summit https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/kim-trump-summit-singapore-success-too-soon/

"How to grade the Singapore summit? The most fair-minded answer is that it’s too soon to tell."


Yes it is too early to tell, so close this thread............... :biggrin:
Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid
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Robert Stout
Jun 13 2018, 04:03 PM
La Pasionaria
Jun 13 2018, 03:26 PM
PATruth
Jun 13 2018, 02:16 PM
No, Trump is winning and the American people are winning. The only one's miserable are the American left.
Spoken like a true acolyte. Obviously you don't read the premier conservative magazine The National Review:

Kim’s Big Day; https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/06/trump-kim-summit-north-korea-playing-usual-hand/

"Kim Jong-un produced vague assurances of disarmament in exchange for American concessions."

We Didn’t Put It in the Agreement because We Didn’t Have Time’; https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/trump-north-korea-deal-kim-lying-history/

"The skepticism I have about this latest round of promises from North Korea is the exact same skepticism I bring to the Iran deal."

Grading the Singapore Summit https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/kim-trump-summit-singapore-success-too-soon/

"How to grade the Singapore summit? The most fair-minded answer is that it’s too soon to tell."


Yes it is too early to tell, so close this thread............... :biggrin:
It's been fun to watch Special Report on Fox this evening as two realists, Eli Lake of Bloomberg and Stephen Hayes of the Weekly Standard lay into Trump apologist Mollie Hemingway taking her to task and savaging her naiveté for her gushing praise of Trump's summit performance.

Poor Brett Baier trying to referee the whole thing!

:rotflmao: :popcorn: :booboo: :popcorn: :booboo: :box:
Edited by La Pasionaria, Jun 13 2018, 07:25 PM.
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PATruth
Jun 13 2018, 02:16 PM
No, Trump is winning and the American people are winning. The only one's miserable are the American left.
I'd say they're winning, they've completely hoodwinked your man:

Kim Jong-un Pulls the Wool over President Trump https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/06/north-korea-summit-failure-for-united-states/

"Trump did far more than overlook Kim’s atrocious human-rights abuses — he became Kim’s PR man....So too with the summit between Kim Jong-un and Donald Trump, though in this case the media hype couldn’t compete with Mr. Trump’s own. He has basked in talk of a Nobel Peace Prize and predicted that he and the butcher of Pyongyang were “going to have a great discussion and a terrific relationship.” Obviously panting for a meeting, Trump was reportedly livid with National Security Advisor John Bolton, whose May comments about a “Libya solution” to the nuclear-weapons problem apparently spooked Kim into withdrawing from the summit. Trump insisted that it was he who cancelled, just as he did with the Philadelphia Eagles’ White House visit."

:booboo: :booboo: :booboo: :booboo:
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The day I see National Review's editorial staff sign up for the draft, I will take them seriously. The only wool being pulled over the eyes is the warmongering neoconservatives pulling the wool over Republicans' eyes. Who is paying for National Review? Where do they get their funding as a propaganda outlet?
#BringWilmyBack
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Dr. B
Jun 15 2018, 11:59 AM
The day I see National Review's editorial staff sign up for the draft, I will take them seriously. The only wool being pulled over the eyes is the warmongering neoconservatives pulling the wool over Republicans' eyes. Who is paying for National Review? Where do they get their funding as a propaganda outlet?
I don't know that we can categorize the national Review as prima facie Neo-Conservative.

I think there are some real concerns, on both sides of the aisle over what will flow out of this Trump - Kim summit.
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La Pasionaria
Jun 15 2018, 01:31 PM
Dr. B
Jun 15 2018, 11:59 AM
The day I see National Review's editorial staff sign up for the draft, I will take them seriously. The only wool being pulled over the eyes is the warmongering neoconservatives pulling the wool over Republicans' eyes. Who is paying for National Review? Where do they get their funding as a propaganda outlet?
I don't know that we can categorize the national Review as prima facie Neo-Conservative.

I think there are some real concerns, on both sides of the aisle over what will flow out of this Trump - Kim summit.
The National Review is full blown multinational corporatist.......... :oyvey:
Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid
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Trump got hosed by Kim
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Trump pretty much betrayed South Korea and Japan

65 years of resolve and deterance up in smoke just so Trump could have his photo-op

Trump got the idea of ending war games at the suggestion of Putin

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Edited by Attaburnsinhell, Jun 15 2018, 05:34 PM.
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Attaburnsinhell
Jun 15 2018, 05:31 PM
Trump pretty much betrayed South Korea and Japan

65 years of resolve and deterance up in smoke just so Trump could have his photo-op

Trump got the idea of ending war games at the suggestion of Putin

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S Korea & Japan are wealthy nations which can defend themselves.
You were spared by Thanos.
#MAGA
#wallsnotwars
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Harambe4Trump
Jun 15 2018, 05:50 PM
Attaburnsinhell
Jun 15 2018, 05:31 PM
Trump pretty much betrayed South Korea and Japan

65 years of resolve and deterance up in smoke just so Trump could have his photo-op

Trump got the idea of ending war games at the suggestion of Putin

Posted Image
S Korea & Japan are wealthy nations which can defend themselves.
Thats a pretty weak excuse for betraying our allies
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Jun 15 2018, 05:50 PM
Attaburnsinhell
Jun 15 2018, 05:31 PM
Trump pretty much betrayed South Korea and Japan

65 years of resolve and deterance up in smoke just so Trump could have his photo-op

Trump got the idea of ending war games at the suggestion of Putin

Posted Image
S Korea & Japan are wealthy nations which can defend themselves.
"S Korea & Japan are wealthy nations which can't defend themselves."

Fixed that for you.

Will Munny: "Deserve's got nothin' to do with it..."
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RaiderNation
Jun 15 2018, 06:02 PM
Harambe4Trump
Jun 15 2018, 05:50 PM
Attaburnsinhell
Jun 15 2018, 05:31 PM
Trump pretty much betrayed South Korea and Japan

65 years of resolve and deterance up in smoke just so Trump could have his photo-op

Trump got the idea of ending war games at the suggestion of Putin

Posted Image
S Korea & Japan are wealthy nations which can defend themselves.
"S Korea & Japan are wealthy nations which can't defend themselves."

Fixed that for you.

And why is that?
You were spared by Thanos.
#MAGA
#wallsnotwars
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Attaburnsinhell
Jun 15 2018, 05:57 PM
Harambe4Trump
Jun 15 2018, 05:50 PM
Attaburnsinhell
Jun 15 2018, 05:31 PM
Trump pretty much betrayed South Korea and Japan

65 years of resolve and deterance up in smoke just so Trump could have his photo-op

Trump got the idea of ending war games at the suggestion of Putin

Posted Image
S Korea & Japan are wealthy nations which can defend themselves.
Thats a pretty weak excuse for betraying our allies
What percentage of Japan’s GDP is spent on the military compared to America?
You were spared by Thanos.
#MAGA
#wallsnotwars
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