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| Libya "Before And After" Photos Go Viral | |
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| grannyhawkins | Jun 13 2018, 10:16 PM Post #1 |
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I say that big talk's worth doodly-squat
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Libya "Before And After" Photos Go Viral https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-12/libya-and-after-photos-go-viral A Libyan man who took photos of himself posing at various spots across Beghazi in 2000 has revisited the same locations 18 years later to photograph life under the new "NATO liberated" Libya. The "before and after" pics showing the utter devastation of post-Gaddafi Libya have gone viral, garnering 50,000 retweets after they were posted to an account that features historical images of Libya under Gaddafi’s rule between 1969 and 2011. It appears people do still care about Libya even if the political elites in Paris, London, and Washington who destroyed the country have moved on. Though we should recall that British foreign secretary Boris Johnson was caught on tape in a private meeting last year saying Libya was ripe for UK investment, but only after Libyans "clear the dead bodies away." ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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| Hughmac | Jun 14 2018, 01:38 AM Post #2 |
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Thank you for this post - a good find. Yes, the democracies in action, crusading for freedom by freeing chaos from its chains. - H |
| H4T wrote: [Global] nuclear annihilation is preferable to the pre-Trump immigration/refugee policies. | |
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| Drudge X | Jun 14 2018, 01:40 AM Post #3 |
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Thanks Obama. |
| Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind. | |
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| Hughmac | Jun 14 2018, 01:46 AM Post #4 |
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I think that you'll find that Mr Bush made a far greater mess of Iraq. As for Libya, you can thank France and Britain for that feckup - Obama had the good sense to play a minor role. It never ceases to amaze me that the Bus**tes have this uncontrollable "lemming urge" to throw the limelight back onto what an idiot their boy was each time the dust settles with comments like yours, my distant amigo. Cheers Hughmac |
| H4T wrote: [Global] nuclear annihilation is preferable to the pre-Trump immigration/refugee policies. | |
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| Robert Stout | Jun 14 2018, 02:06 PM Post #5 |
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If I remember correctly the Brits participated in Operation Iraqi Freedom, so they must be equally guilty of making a big mess in Iraq..............
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| Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid | |
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| George Aligator | Jun 14 2018, 03:55 PM Post #6 |
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As the walking wounded stream back, dazed and in pain, from the battlefield of the 21st century, their confused attempt to reconstruct the historical process that has put them in their current sorry plight settles on an infantile story of good guys and bad guys, each motivated by inexplicable passions. This delusional state has been seized upon by Russian intelligence to manipulate a victim of kompromat into the Oval Office. We have witnessed an unprecedented, tragic event in American history. |
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| Hughmac | Jun 14 2018, 03:57 PM Post #7 |
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Most certainly: the Brits are guilty of participating in that farce and doubly guilty of letting a cretin like Bush talk the into it - and it didn't take much convincing because that socialist, spittle licker, Blair, was panting to be in Bush's good books. Cheers Hughmac |
| H4T wrote: [Global] nuclear annihilation is preferable to the pre-Trump immigration/refugee policies. | |
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| George Aligator | Jun 14 2018, 04:08 PM Post #8 |
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Libya under Gaddafi was skillfully managed to meet the rather bizarre ambitions of its eccentric dictator. His overthrow by Western powers took the lid off a complex stew of regional and tribal conflicts which, once unleashed, has led the country into chaos. We have seen the same dynamic in Iraq and the process is underway in Syria. The Western interventions which produce the current bloody chaos merely tip over the houses of cards which are what the arbitrary, post-colonial nations created by the West amount to. Similar phenomena can be seen all over sub-Sahara Africa and Central America. When the withdrawal of a few generations of Western imperialism scrambles ethnic structures that evolved over millennia, the result is bloody chaos and the undeserved suffering of millions of innocent human beings. Colonialism was bad enough; post-colonial chaos is far, far worse. |
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| Hughmac | Jun 14 2018, 04:35 PM Post #9 |
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Well summed up - H |
| H4T wrote: [Global] nuclear annihilation is preferable to the pre-Trump immigration/refugee policies. | |
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| Demagogue | Jun 14 2018, 05:21 PM Post #10 |
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This kind of sounds like the description of post communist Yugoslavia. |
| People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on those who would do them harm. | |
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| Che On The Rocks | Jun 15 2018, 03:42 AM Post #11 |
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Attack shuts major Libyan oil ports, slashing production
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Free Milagro Sala! What happened to Santiago Maldonado? What happened to ARA San Juan? Mapuche Lives Matter! Stop the political persecution in Argentina! Stop the looting of Argentina! | |
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| Hughmac | Jun 15 2018, 04:15 AM Post #12 |
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From the point of view of Multi-Nationals, local warlords are much easier to deal with than organised, functioning states. There is little doubt that some huge corporates back rebels in resource-rich regions of 3rd-world countries, sparking civil wars and receiving grateful rewards from the benefited warlord. No matter the misery of a civil war - profits, after all, are king. Blood Diamonds are a case in point; i.e., diamonds mined in a war zone and sold to finance an insurgency, an invading army's war efforts, or a warlord's activity. Examples are the civil wars in Angola, Ivory Coast, Sierra Leone and Liberia, to mention some. The classic example of "conflict resources" is the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) where wolframite (for tungsten) and coltan (for tantalum), as well as good-old gold were mined and through a convoluted process to avoid bans, made their way to international corporates' coffers. After all, where would our mobile phones, laptops, and MP3 players be without coltan? Therein lies are personal hypocrisy. Despite the USA's efforts to combat this (under Obama) in 2010 with the Dodd–Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act it didn't take long for the multi-nationals using their lobbies to bring about a repeal of some of the more 'trade strangling' aspects of the law in 2015, as a violation of corporations’ freedom of speech. At least the US actually brought out a law, whereas Europe is still interminably debating about introducing one. The present situation in Libya favours multi-nationals once a strong warlord establishes his dictatorship over oil fields. Multi-nationals don't beset dictators over human rights and certainly do not disapprove of "troublemakers" disappearing. Note, this is also the modus operandi of China so it is not just corporate greed but state actors, too. Summing up, a strong dictatorship governing a country will guarantee a flow of resources to the corporate world; he can control the press and dispose of troublemakers, but is a liability as far as Human Rights go. So, the next best thing is a local warlord in a civil war situation where the flow of resources is a little less certain, but the "recipient" needn't worry about bothersome Human Rights. Note also that as soon as the chosen warlord starts to lose to an up-and-coming one, they can smoothly switch their support and thus guarantee the "flow." Anyway, you all knew all that, I'm sure Cheers Hughmac Edited by Hughmac, Jun 15 2018, 04:20 AM.
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| H4T wrote: [Global] nuclear annihilation is preferable to the pre-Trump immigration/refugee policies. | |
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| Che On The Rocks | Jun 15 2018, 04:35 AM Post #13 |
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Yes, but it is always a pleasure reading it from you.
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Free Milagro Sala! What happened to Santiago Maldonado? What happened to ARA San Juan? Mapuche Lives Matter! Stop the political persecution in Argentina! Stop the looting of Argentina! | |
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| Robert Stout | Jun 15 2018, 07:05 AM Post #14 |
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Long before that, OPEC was born in Libya, a child of big oil to raise oil prices....They could not have done it without the cooperation of Gadhafi...............
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| Alt Right PEPE | Jun 15 2018, 08:23 AM Post #15 |
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It was the Obama team that did this! |
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"Be polite, be friendly. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet." Gen Mattis | |
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| Che On The Rocks | Jul 4 2018, 05:44 AM Post #16 |
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Migrants anxious to start anew in Europe after Libya ‘hell’
![]() In this photo taken on Monday, July 2, 2018, Noumissi Messi, 22, from Cameroon, looks ahead at sea, aboard the Open Arms aid boat, of Proactiva Open Arms Spanish NGO. Spain’s government said Barcelona will be the docking port for the aid boat traveling with 60 migrants rescued on Saturday in waters near Libya and rejected by both Italy and Malta. (AP Photo/Olmo Calvo) |
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