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Tommy Robinson Fears For His Life After Being Moved To Heavily Muslim-populated Prison
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Classic British. A guy is arrested and immediately sentenced without representation to over a year in prison because he dared to report on grooming gangs. He is intentionally moved to a prison where he will probably be killed. But this is alright because he's a racist.
This is why we declared independence from you. This right here. I'm not a fan of Tommy Robinson. But I don't think a man should be killed because he dared report the truth on young girls being abused.
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Oh, and I forgot to mention. The media are also banned from reporting any of this. And the judge who did this witnessed the arrest, which is another clear violation of law.
Next we will read reports of red-coats quartering in Tommy Robinson's house and passing egregious taxes on his tea?
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In an interview with Victoria Derbyshire on BBC Radio Five live in 2010, Tommy said that his parents "were Irish immigrants to this country". If you let immigrants into your country, stuff like this is bound to happen. We should learn from North Korea, where Irish immigrants are not permitted.
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Jun 14 2018, 03:48 PM
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Classic British. A guy is arrested and immediately sentenced without representation to over a year in prison because he dared to report on grooming gangs. He is intentionally moved to a prison where he will probably be killed. But this is alright because he's a racist.
This is why we declared independence from you. This right here. I'm not a fan of Tommy Robinson. But I don't think a man should be killed because he dared report the truth on young girls being abused. I've explained this so many times, but it just isn't getting through, is it.
If you commit any offence whilst you are serving a suspended sentence, you immediately, I repeat, immediately go straight to jail to serve the hitherto suspended sentence in full, in prison.
Why is that soooooo difficult for your guys to understand? At least in England alleged offenders make it to trial - in the States you're lucky to survive a brush with the police, let alone make it before a judge.
Here, try this: The judge says that if you have been sentenced to two years in prison, however, as it is your first offence, you internment will be suspended and if you keep your nose clean for those two years, you won't have to step inside a prison. If you feck up, you're straight in the slammer.
That's, Doctor B, is why he went straight to jail without further trail - to serve his hitherto suspended sentence behind bars.
Thank God you did obtain independence; an act which annulled all of our responsibility over an obviously deranged gathering of bible-mumbling malcontents.
Cheers Hughmac
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In an interview with Victoria Derbyshire on BBC Radio Five live in 2010, Tommy said that his parents "were Irish immigrants to this country". If you let immigrants into your country, stuff like this is bound to happen. We should learn from North Korea, where Irish immigrants are not permitted. has H4T hacked into your account???- H
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Classic British. A guy is arrested and immediately sentenced without representation to over a year in prison because he dared to report on grooming gangs. He is intentionally moved to a prison where he will probably be killed. But this is alright because he's a racist.
This is why we declared independence from you. This right here. I'm not a fan of Tommy Robinson. But I don't think a man should be killed because he dared report the truth on young girls being abused.
I've explained this so many times, but it just isn't getting through, is it. If you commit any offence whilst you are serving a suspended sentence, you immediately, I repeat, immediately go straight to jail to serve the hitherto suspended sentence in full, in prison. Why is that soooooo difficult for your guys to understand? At least in England alleged offenders make it to trial - in the States you're lucky to survive a brush with the police, let alone make it before a judge. Here, try this: The judge says that if you have been sentenced to two years in prison, however, as it is your first offence, you internment will be suspended and if you keep your nose clean for those two years, you won't have to step inside a prison. If you feck up, you're straight in the slammer. That's, Doctor B, is why he went straight to jail without further trail - to serve his hitherto suspended sentence behind bars. Thank God you did obtain independence; an act which annulled all of our responsibility over an obviously deranged gathering of bible-mumbling malcontents. Cheers Hughmac I'm not sure why they're having such a problem grasping this, since here in the U.S. if you're on probation they can pretty much rescind your probation for anything up to and including spitting on the street.
Douche bag got convicted, got out on probation, breaks the law, and his probation violation lands him back in jail with probably nothing more than a hearing where the judge officially rescinded his probation.
Happens all the freaking time over here and no one blinks.
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Jun 14 2018, 04:33 PM
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Classic British. A guy is arrested and immediately sentenced without representation to over a year in prison because he dared to report on grooming gangs. He is intentionally moved to a prison where he will probably be killed. But this is alright because he's a racist.
This is why we declared independence from you. This right here. I'm not a fan of Tommy Robinson. But I don't think a man should be killed because he dared report the truth on young girls being abused.
I've explained this so many times, but it just isn't getting through, is it. If you commit any offence whilst you are serving a suspended sentence, you immediately, I repeat, immediately go straight to jail to serve the hitherto suspended sentence in full, in prison. Why is that soooooo difficult for your guys to understand? At least in England alleged offenders make it to trial - in the States you're lucky to survive a brush with the police, let alone make it before a judge. Here, try this: The judge says that if you have been sentenced to two years in prison, however, as it is your first offence, you internment will be suspended and if you keep your nose clean for those two years, you won't have to step inside a prison. If you feck up, you're straight in the slammer. That's, Doctor B, is why he went straight to jail without further trail - to serve his hitherto suspended sentence behind bars. Thank God you did obtain independence; an act which annulled all of our responsibility over an obviously deranged gathering of bible-mumbling malcontents. Cheers Hughmac
I'm not sure why they're having such a problem grasping this, since here in the U.S. if you're on probation they can pretty much rescind your probation for anything up to and including spitting on the street. Douche bag got convicted, got out on probation, breaks the law, and his probation violation lands him back in jail with probably nothing more than a hearing where the judge officially rescinded his probation. Happens all the freaking time over here and no one blinks. Yeah, well there's probably been a full moon over there and they're still kinda gibbering up against the window pane, bless their cotton socks... - H
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Classic British. A guy is arrested and immediately sentenced without representation to over a year in prison because he dared to report on grooming gangs. He is intentionally moved to a prison where he will probably be killed. But this is alright because he's a racist.
This is why we declared independence from you. This right here. I'm not a fan of Tommy Robinson. But I don't think a man should be killed because he dared report the truth on young girls being abused.
I've explained this so many times, but it just isn't getting through, is it. If you commit any offence whilst you are serving a suspended sentence, you immediately, I repeat, immediately go straight to jail to serve the hitherto suspended sentence in full, in prison. Why is that soooooo difficult for your guys to understand? At least in England alleged offenders make it to trial - in the States you're lucky to survive a brush with the police, let alone make it before a judge. Here, try this: The judge says that if you have been sentenced to two years in prison, however, as it is your first offence, you internment will be suspended and if you keep your nose clean for those two years, you won't have to step inside a prison. If you feck up, you're straight in the slammer. That's, Doctor B, is why he went straight to jail without further trail - to serve his hitherto suspended sentence behind bars. Thank God you did obtain independence; an act which annulled all of our responsibility over an obviously deranged gathering of bible-mumbling malcontents. Cheers Hughmac
I'm not sure why they're having such a problem grasping this, since here in the U.S. if you're on probation they can pretty much rescind your probation for anything up to and including spitting on the street. Douche bag got convicted, got out on probation, breaks the law, and his probation violation lands him back in jail with probably nothing more than a hearing where the judge officially rescinded his probation. Happens all the freaking time over here and no one blinks.
Yeah, well there's probably been a full moon over there and they're still kinda gibbering up against the window pane, bless their cotton socks... - H Britain has returned to quick and speedy justice, like when they hung 12 year old boys for stealing a loaf of bread....The question remains, why did the British government muzzle the press news of this wonderful event ???.................
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Tommy Robinson’s Final Statement Before Execution BANNED
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Jun 14 2018, 11:15 PM
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Classic British. A guy is arrested and immediately sentenced without representation to over a year in prison because he dared to report on grooming gangs. He is intentionally moved to a prison where he will probably be killed. But this is alright because he's a racist.
This is why we declared independence from you. This right here. I'm not a fan of Tommy Robinson. But I don't think a man should be killed because he dared report the truth on young girls being abused.
I've explained this so many times, but it just isn't getting through, is it. If you commit any offence whilst you are serving a suspended sentence, you immediately, I repeat, immediately go straight to jail to serve the hitherto suspended sentence in full, in prison. Why is that soooooo difficult for your guys to understand? At least in England alleged offenders make it to trial - in the States you're lucky to survive a brush with the police, let alone make it before a judge. Here, try this: The judge says that if you have been sentenced to two years in prison, however, as it is your first offence, you internment will be suspended and if you keep your nose clean for those two years, you won't have to step inside a prison. If you feck up, you're straight in the slammer. That's, Doctor B, is why he went straight to jail without further trail - to serve his hitherto suspended sentence behind bars. Thank God you did obtain independence; an act which annulled all of our responsibility over an obviously deranged gathering of bible-mumbling malcontents. Cheers Hughmac My understanding was that only a few months of the sentence were for the prior suspended sentence. So he was still arrested and convicted within hours. Also, my understanding is the prior arrest was for basically the same thing, reporting on grooming gangs. So you are really begging the question. How do you justify jailing a man, any man, for an offence such as this?
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Classic British. A guy is arrested and immediately sentenced without representation to over a year in prison because he dared to report on grooming gangs. He is intentionally moved to a prison where he will probably be killed. But this is alright because he's a racist.
This is why we declared independence from you. This right here. I'm not a fan of Tommy Robinson. But I don't think a man should be killed because he dared report the truth on young girls being abused.
I've explained this so many times, but it just isn't getting through, is it. If you commit any offence whilst you are serving a suspended sentence, you immediately, I repeat, immediately go straight to jail to serve the hitherto suspended sentence in full, in prison. Why is that soooooo difficult for your guys to understand? At least in England alleged offenders make it to trial - in the States you're lucky to survive a brush with the police, let alone make it before a judge. Here, try this: The judge says that if you have been sentenced to two years in prison, however, as it is your first offence, you internment will be suspended and if you keep your nose clean for those two years, you won't have to step inside a prison. If you feck up, you're straight in the slammer. That's, Doctor B, is why he went straight to jail without further trail - to serve his hitherto suspended sentence behind bars. Thank God you did obtain independence; an act which annulled all of our responsibility over an obviously deranged gathering of bible-mumbling malcontents. Cheers Hughmac
I'm not sure why they're having such a problem grasping this, since here in the U.S. if you're on probation they can pretty much rescind your probation for anything up to and including spitting on the street. Douche bag got convicted, got out on probation, breaks the law, and his probation violation lands him back in jail with probably nothing more than a hearing where the judge officially rescinded his probation. Happens all the freaking time over here and no one blinks.
Yeah, well there's probably been a full moon over there and they're still kinda gibbering up against the window pane, bless their cotton socks... - H
Britain has returned to quick and speedy justice, like when they hung 12 year old boys for stealing a loaf of bread....The question remains, why did the British government muzzle the press news of this wonderful event ???................. It’s one of those fundamental questions of life. If Leftists are so right, why do they have to censor people who disagree with them?
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The question remains, why did the British government muzzle the press news of this wonderful event ? Really? Like, really, Robbie? You need this spelt out again? Mr Alzheimer playing tricks on you again? - H
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Classic British. A guy is arrested and immediately sentenced without representation to over a year in prison because he dared to report on grooming gangs. He is intentionally moved to a prison where he will probably be killed. But this is alright because he's a racist.
This is why we declared independence from you. This right here. I'm not a fan of Tommy Robinson. But I don't think a man should be killed because he dared report the truth on young girls being abused.
I've explained this so many times, but it just isn't getting through, is it. If you commit any offence whilst you are serving a suspended sentence, you immediately, I repeat, immediately go straight to jail to serve the hitherto suspended sentence in full, in prison. Why is that soooooo difficult for your guys to understand? At least in England alleged offenders make it to trial - in the States you're lucky to survive a brush with the police, let alone make it before a judge. Here, try this: The judge says that if you have been sentenced to two years in prison, however, as it is your first offence, you internment will be suspended and if you keep your nose clean for those two years, you won't have to step inside a prison. If you feck up, you're straight in the slammer. That's, Doctor B, is why he went straight to jail without further trail - to serve his hitherto suspended sentence behind bars. Thank God you did obtain independence; an act which annulled all of our responsibility over an obviously deranged gathering of bible-mumbling malcontents. Cheers Hughmac
My understanding was that only a few months of the sentence were for the prior suspended sentence. So he was still arrested and convicted within hours. Also, my understanding is the prior arrest was for basically the same thing, reporting on grooming gangs. So you are really begging the question. How do you justify jailing a man, any man, for an offence such as this? Dr B. I am really running out of ways of rephrasing the obvious for those unwilling to take onboard ironclad logic that goes against their penchant for feeling indignation.
A court prison sentence is a court prison sentence and the incarceration period is stipulated. if within the period set down as a suspended sentence; i.e., the convict incurs in another offence then he is immediately, without further trial, sent to prison for the duration of the remaining period of his original sentence, but behind bars. Simple! Or it should be, unless you're bent upon turning somebody into a martyr.
Furthermore, as you have said, the original sentence was for doing precisely what he did this last time - in other words there can be no doubt or confusion of whether what he was doing this second time was illegal. He therefore did it knowingly, fully aware of the consequences simply in order to achieve stardom in the crazy rightwing press.d
If you were in any doubt that this was indeed his only intention, please note that he has a manager; not just a lawyer, but a manager, which should tell even the most willingly obtuse that this whole incident is staged.
So, you want me to explain for the umpteenth time what a court order (gagging order) is? Unsurprisingly, you have them in the USA, but only placed on the defendant at a trial, which is about as unjust as it comes, meaning that the press can publish what they like about him but he cannot legally respond. At least in the British system it is slapped on everybody, both defence and accusation, and is designed to prevent a "trial by tabloid press" contaminating a real trial whilst it is in progress.
I shall not explain this again.
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In an interview with Victoria Derbyshire on BBC Radio Five live in 2010, Tommy said that his parents "were Irish immigrants to this country". If you let immigrants into your country, stuff like this is bound to happen. We should learn from North Korea, where Irish immigrants are not permitted.
has H4T hacked into your account???- H George is being ironic, i think.
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In an interview with Victoria Derbyshire on BBC Radio Five live in 2010, Tommy said that his parents "were Irish immigrants to this country". If you let immigrants into your country, stuff like this is bound to happen. We should learn from North Korea, where Irish immigrants are not permitted.
has H4T hacked into your account???- H
George is being ironic, i think. Tranquilo, Macho. Que le estás aguando la Religión del Odio a los Coloniales... So was I
Me sacan de quicios aveces, amigo. La verdad es que acojona la cantidad de odio que hay en la derecha americana y lo mal informados que son.
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The British Government knows full well he is a muslim target and yet he is not in protective custody . He was moved out of a minimum security facility and put in a dangerous prison with a 70% muslim occupancy rate!
He has been set up to be murdered. ‘If Tommy Robinson is killed in prison, the U.K. Establishment have blood on their hands”
He is a political prisoner for speaking out. Freedom of speech is dead in England.
Tommy Robinson FACTS: Katie Hopkins shocks Tucker Carlson
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Thank God we're not under British rule!
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The British Government knows full well he is a muslim target and yet he is not in protective custody . He was moved out of a minimum security facility and put in a dangerous prison with a 70% muslim occupancy rate! He has been set up to be murdered. ‘If Tommy Robinson is killed in prison, the U.K. Establishment have blood on their hands” He is a political prisoner for speaking out. Freedom of speech is dead in England. Tommy Robinson FACTS: Katie Hopkins shocks Tucker Carlson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grt-c5ka_1Y There is no prison in UK with a 70% Muslim occupancy rate. Why do I say that? Simple demographics. Muslims make up 5.02% of the UK population and make up only 15% of the prison population.
You don't fill a prison with 70% of a group that only has a 15% representation in the prison entire system unless you've simply moved all the members of that group to a single prison. And we have no reason to believe that has been done.
Learn to do some critical thinking.
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Classic British. A guy is arrested and immediately sentenced without representation to over a year in prison because he dared to report on grooming gangs. He is intentionally moved to a prison where he will probably be killed. But this is alright because he's a racist.
This is why we declared independence from you. This right here. I'm not a fan of Tommy Robinson. But I don't think a man should be killed because he dared report the truth on young girls being abused.
I've explained this so many times, but it just isn't getting through, is it. If you commit any offence whilst you are serving a suspended sentence, you immediately, I repeat, immediately go straight to jail to serve the hitherto suspended sentence in full, in prison. Why is that soooooo difficult for your guys to understand? At least in England alleged offenders make it to trial - in the States you're lucky to survive a brush with the police, let alone make it before a judge. Here, try this: The judge says that if you have been sentenced to two years in prison, however, as it is your first offence, you internment will be suspended and if you keep your nose clean for those two years, you won't have to step inside a prison. If you feck up, you're straight in the slammer. That's, Doctor B, is why he went straight to jail without further trail - to serve his hitherto suspended sentence behind bars. Thank God you did obtain independence; an act which annulled all of our responsibility over an obviously deranged gathering of bible-mumbling malcontents. Cheers Hughmac
My understanding was that only a few months of the sentence were for the prior suspended sentence. So he was still arrested and convicted within hours. Also, my understanding is the prior arrest was for basically the same thing, reporting on grooming gangs. So you are really begging the question. How do you justify jailing a man, any man, for an offence such as this?
Dr B. I am really running out of ways of rephrasing the obvious for those unwilling to take onboard ironclad logic that goes against their penchant for feeling indignation. A court prison sentence is a court prison sentence and the incarceration period is stipulated. if within the period set down as a suspended sentence; i.e., the convict incurs in another offence then he is immediately, without further trial, sent to prison for the duration of the remaining period of his original sentence, but behind bars. Simple! Or it should be, unless you're bent upon turning somebody into a martyr. Furthermore, as you have said, the original sentence was for doing precisely what he did this last time - in other words there can be no doubt or confusion of whether what he was doing this second time was illegal. He therefore did it knowingly, fully aware of the consequences simply in order to achieve stardom in the crazy rightwing press.d If you were in any doubt that this was indeed his only intention, please note that he has a manager; not just a lawyer, but a manager, which should tell even the most willingly obtuse that this whole incident is staged. So, you want me to explain for the umpteenth time what a court order (gagging order) is? Unsurprisingly, you have them in the USA, but only placed on the defendant at a trial, which is about as unjust as it comes, meaning that the press can publish what they like about him but he cannot legally respond. At least in the British system it is slapped on everybody, both defence and accusation, and is designed to prevent a "trial by tabloid press" contaminating a real trial whilst it is in progress. I shall not explain this again. Cheers HUghmac You are explaining something that has nothing to do with what I'm saying. I understand how a suspended sentence works. That is not the issue of discussion. What I am telling you (let me speak slowly this time) is that it was only THREE MONTHS. Three months. The suspended sentence was only three months.
Let's do some math here. Now, if the suspended sentence was three months, and Tommy Robinson is being jailed for 13 months, what does that make the new sentence? Do you know?
Tommy Robinson was arrested and jailed for 10 months on a new charge within a couple of hours. No due process. The judge who presided was photographed watching and laughing as Robinson was being arrested, another violation of due process. Now Tommy Robinson is being sent to a prison where he will probably be killed. Another human rights violation.
And again, you refuse to address the entire underlying issue here, which is that Tommy Robinson was arrested for reporting news, for talking about the massive grooming gangs that victimize tens of thousands of children around the UK and you guys refuse to talk about because you are afraid of being called racists. You ban anyone from talking about it, or from talking about people being arrested for talking about it. That is the point of what I am saying. If my worst political enemy, George Soros, or Barack Obama, or Hitler himself, were reporting on children being victimized I would applaud them for exposing this grave crime. I wouldn't demand they be arrested for it and then scream at anyone who talks about it.
Your country is swirling down the toilet. You have to feel it. I feel it and I live thousands of miles away. Every day there is a new story about someone in Britain being arrested for telling a joke or for reporting true news. Go ahead, ridicule Americans for our gun crime rates or whatever you've got to do to feel better about it.
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Jun 15 2018, 11:56 AM
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Classic British. A guy is arrested and immediately sentenced without representation to over a year in prison because he dared to report on grooming gangs. He is intentionally moved to a prison where he will probably be killed. But this is alright because he's a racist.
This is why we declared independence from you. This right here. I'm not a fan of Tommy Robinson. But I don't think a man should be killed because he dared report the truth on young girls being abused.
I've explained this so many times, but it just isn't getting through, is it. If you commit any offence whilst you are serving a suspended sentence, you immediately, I repeat, immediately go straight to jail to serve the hitherto suspended sentence in full, in prison. Why is that soooooo difficult for your guys to understand? At least in England alleged offenders make it to trial - in the States you're lucky to survive a brush with the police, let alone make it before a judge. Here, try this: The judge says that if you have been sentenced to two years in prison, however, as it is your first offence, you internment will be suspended and if you keep your nose clean for those two years, you won't have to step inside a prison. If you feck up, you're straight in the slammer. That's, Doctor B, is why he went straight to jail without further trail - to serve his hitherto suspended sentence behind bars. Thank God you did obtain independence; an act which annulled all of our responsibility over an obviously deranged gathering of bible-mumbling malcontents. Cheers Hughmac
My understanding was that only a few months of the sentence were for the prior suspended sentence. So he was still arrested and convicted within hours. Also, my understanding is the prior arrest was for basically the same thing, reporting on grooming gangs. So you are really begging the question. How do you justify jailing a man, any man, for an offence such as this?
Dr B. I am really running out of ways of rephrasing the obvious for those unwilling to take onboard ironclad logic that goes against their penchant for feeling indignation. A court prison sentence is a court prison sentence and the incarceration period is stipulated. if within the period set down as a suspended sentence; i.e., the convict incurs in another offence then he is immediately, without further trial, sent to prison for the duration of the remaining period of his original sentence, but behind bars. Simple! Or it should be, unless you're bent upon turning somebody into a martyr. Furthermore, as you have said, the original sentence was for doing precisely what he did this last time - in other words there can be no doubt or confusion of whether what he was doing this second time was illegal. He therefore did it knowingly, fully aware of the consequences simply in order to achieve stardom in the crazy rightwing press.d If you were in any doubt that this was indeed his only intention, please note that he has a manager; not just a lawyer, but a manager, which should tell even the most willingly obtuse that this whole incident is staged. So, you want me to explain for the umpteenth time what a court order (gagging order) is? Unsurprisingly, you have them in the USA, but only placed on the defendant at a trial, which is about as unjust as it comes, meaning that the press can publish what they like about him but he cannot legally respond. At least in the British system it is slapped on everybody, both defence and accusation, and is designed to prevent a "trial by tabloid press" contaminating a real trial whilst it is in progress. I shall not explain this again. Cheers HUghmac
You are explaining something that has nothing to do with what I'm saying. I understand how a suspended sentence works. That is not the issue of discussion. What I am telling you (let me speak slowly this time) is that it was only THREE MONTHS. Three months. The suspended sentence was only three months. Let's do some math here. Now, if the suspended sentence was three months, and Tommy Robinson is being jailed for 13 months, what does that make the new sentence? Do you know? Tommy Robinson was arrested and jailed for 10 months on a new charge within a couple of hours. No due process. The judge who presided was photographed watching and laughing as Robinson was being arrested, another violation of due process. Now Tommy Robinson is being sent to a prison where he will probably be killed. Another human rights violation. And again, you refuse to address the entire underlying issue here, which is that Tommy Robinson was arrested for reporting news, for talking about the massive grooming gangs that victimize tens of thousands of children around the UK and you guys refuse to talk about because you are afraid of being called racists. You ban anyone from talking about it, or from talking about people being arrested for talking about it. That is the point of what I am saying. If my worst political enemy, George Soros, or Barack Obama, or Hitler himself, were reporting on children being victimized I would applaud them for exposing this grave crime. I wouldn't demand they be arrested for it and then scream at anyone who talks about it. Your country is swirling down the toilet. You have to feel it. I feel it and I live thousands of miles away. Every day there is a new story about someone in Britain being arrested for telling a joke or for reporting true news. Go ahead, ridicule Americans for our gun crime rates or whatever you've got to do to feel better about it.
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Last year Robinson was given a suspended sentence for committing contempt during a rape trial in Canterbury, after he attempted to film the defendants. He had been told that he would go to prison if he broke the law again.
Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon, was sentenced to 10 months for contempt of court and a further three months for breaching the terms of the previous suspended sentence.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/may/29/edl-founder-tommy-robinson-jailed-13-months
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