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| 'Commie cadet' who wore Che Guevara T-shirt kicked out of US army | |
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| lucash | Jun 21 2018, 09:07 PM Post #21 |
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#NeverTrump
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It's okay, I'm weigh ahead of you on the jokes. I often poke fun at myself, and it's often with the full weight of my wit.
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| "...a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is detrimental...having lost the will..to demand...good..." - Rachel Carson | |
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| clone | Jun 21 2018, 09:11 PM Post #22 |
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Tons of fun I'm sure... |
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Only liberals can choose not to go down the road to widespread, systematic violence. | |
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| voted4reagan | Jun 21 2018, 10:08 PM Post #23 |
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Not when you are representing the service... No such animal when you are on duty or in Uniform which he was... Look it up my friend... |
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Trump needs to focus more so on the male vote. He should have nationalized the Boy Scouts when they decided to admit girls. Harambe4Trump AKA "FASHY" | |
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| Right-Wing | Jun 21 2018, 10:14 PM Post #24 |
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Pistolis, 19, will be imprisoned for a month, docked pay and reduced in rank to private first class, and then likely forced from the Corps, according to a USMC spokesman. https://www.propublica.org/article/vasilios-pistolis-imprisoned-marine-hate-groups Nazis and Communists are basically the same thing.They both love BIG government and abhor individual freedom, they just wear different uniforms...just so you know. |
| Donald Trump is Barack Obama's President! | |
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| voted4reagan | Jun 21 2018, 10:27 PM Post #25 |
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Conduct unbecoming an officer. UCMJ Art. 133 test1 117 (Side 117)Conduct “must offend so seriously against law, justice, morality or decorum as to expose to disgrace, socially or as a man, the offender, and at the same time must be of such a nature or committed under such circumstances as to bring dishonor or disrepute upon the military profession which he represents.” William Winthrop, Military Law and Precedents 711-12 (2d ed.1920)). All that is required is for the offender’s conduct to fall below the level of conduct expected of officers and to seriously expose him to public opprobrium. United States v. Rogers, 54 M.J. 244, 256 (C.A.A.F. 2000). Private conduct may constitute an offense under Article 133, UCMJ, and there is no requirement that the conduct be otherwise criminal. United States v. Moore, 38 M.J. 490 (C.M.A. 1994); United States v. Norvell, 26 M.J. 477, 481 (C.M.A.1988). Conduct constitute an offense elsewhere under the UCMJ. United States v. Taylor, 23 M.J. 314, 318 (C.M.A.1987). Applies to female officers. United States v. Norvell, 26 M.J. 477 (C.M.A.1988). Edited by voted4reagan, Jun 21 2018, 10:29 PM.
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Trump needs to focus more so on the male vote. He should have nationalized the Boy Scouts when they decided to admit girls. Harambe4Trump AKA "FASHY" | |
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| Harambe4Trump | Jun 21 2018, 10:41 PM Post #26 |
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/marine-marched-neo-nazis-charlottesville-found-guilty-court/story%3fid=55998984 Get your facts straight. |
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Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary. #MAGA #wallsnotwars | |
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| voted4reagan | Jun 22 2018, 08:17 AM Post #27 |
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https://www.thebalancecareers.com/punitive-articles-of-the-ucmj-3356858 https://www.bileckilawgroup.com/court-martial-defense/articles-of-the-ucmj/article-107-false-official-statement/ |
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Trump needs to focus more so on the male vote. He should have nationalized the Boy Scouts when they decided to admit girls. Harambe4Trump AKA "FASHY" | |
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| Tsalagi | Jun 22 2018, 09:19 AM Post #28 |
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I'm thinking his Oath that he took to uphold the Constitution and the Republic would be at odds over is belief that another political philosophy would win eventually other then our representative form of government? He definitely disgraced the uniform and the service...now...do I believe he has a 1st amendment Right to speak in such a fashion...yes.....but I also have to wonder why it took the Army this long to find out bout his political leanings and why it wasn't caught while at the Academy, more why would he want to serve in the military dedicated to the beliefs enshrined in our Constition when it was clear he'd be more at home in Soviet Russia |
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| Hughmac | Jun 22 2018, 10:36 AM Post #29 |
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I imagine that you will agree, Tsalagi, with the following: In the forces, your uniform is your uniform, and your civvies are your civvies, but no matter what you are wearing and where ever you might be, you represent your service 24/7, and any conduct that is in detriment to your service, whichever arm it may be, should be punished, and rightly so. There are no conscripts, which means that everybody in the forces made the choice to serve his or her country voluntarily. If you want rights, then get a discharge, but until you do, you agreed to sacrifice your rights to protect those of others when you took your oath. Cheers Hughmac Edited by Hughmac, Jun 22 2018, 10:40 AM.
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| H4T wrote: [Global] nuclear annihilation is preferable to the pre-Trump immigration/refugee policies. | |
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| Demagogue | Jun 22 2018, 11:14 AM Post #30 |
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The guy was given an "Other and Honorable" discharge for conduct unbecoming. He was not given this for his antics at graduation. He was given this for his activities after he took his position in his unit. Certainly the Army wanted the guy out from the second that he pulled his social media stunt but you know that they patiently waited and crossed their T's and dotted their I's so that we they brought the hammer down there would be no escape. |
| People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on those who would do them harm. | |
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| voted4reagan | Jun 22 2018, 12:08 PM Post #31 |
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He should be glad he wasn't a Marine..... He'd be scattered from the Halls of Montezuma to the Shores of Tripoli. |
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Trump needs to focus more so on the male vote. He should have nationalized the Boy Scouts when they decided to admit girls. Harambe4Trump AKA "FASHY" | |
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| clone | Jun 22 2018, 12:29 PM Post #32 |
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Only liberals can choose not to go down the road to widespread, systematic violence. | |
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| Hughmac | Jun 22 2018, 03:05 PM Post #33 |
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In the case of his cap, it's defacing military property and in the case of the T-shirt he is completely improperly dressed on parade. Jesus, in my days if you couldn't see your face in your boots because we had to bull them into mirrors, you got your head chewed off by the D.I., if you were lucky, and jankers, if you weren't. Cheers Hughmac PS: Goddamn, I sound soooo like a granddad now
Edited by Hughmac, Jun 22 2018, 03:07 PM.
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| H4T wrote: [Global] nuclear annihilation is preferable to the pre-Trump immigration/refugee policies. | |
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| Robert Stout | Jun 22 2018, 06:58 PM Post #34 |
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I suspect the Rapone is a blood relative of Aligator..............
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| Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid | |
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| PATruth | Jun 22 2018, 08:01 PM Post #35 |
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I only hope he has the opportunity to live in a communist country. Young people are often lured by the teachings of Karl Marx. I have to admit, when I was 20, I was once intrigued by the writings of Marx. Instructors can be very convincing and a young mind is vulnerable to such radical ideas. If he had a better understanding of the Russian revolution, post WWII politics, the rise of the Soviet Empire, Pol Pot and Mao's China I have to think he would feel rather foolish wearing that Che t-shirt.
Edited by PATruth, Jun 22 2018, 08:02 PM.
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"No. No he won't. We'll stop it." | |
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| clone | Jun 22 2018, 08:10 PM Post #36 |
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When I was 20 I was riffing off of Ayn Rand and such.... |
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| PATruth | Jun 22 2018, 08:17 PM Post #37 |
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Rand's "Virtue of Selfishness" helped to set me straight. Then I got my first paycheck and saw how much the government took, that sealed the deal. |
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"No. No he won't. We'll stop it." | |
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| lucash | Jun 22 2018, 08:49 PM Post #38 |
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Aside from your summation of the ideologies characteristics being off, I'm glad to hear he is being booted as well. At least the book is being thrown at them both in an equal manner. |
| "...a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is detrimental...having lost the will..to demand...good..." - Rachel Carson | |
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| lucash | Jun 22 2018, 08:56 PM Post #39 |
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Not everyone who has communist views, favors some aspects of it (or other ideologies) is a kool aid drinking person. I find some aspects of it interesting and ideal, albeit impractical, but that doesn't mean I'm planning on toppling over anything. Well maybe a Circle K store when they're out of my favorite jalepeno corndogs, but...i digress. I suspect he wasn't a full blown communist sympathizer until more recent (within the last few years or so) |
| "...a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is detrimental...having lost the will..to demand...good..." - Rachel Carson | |
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| lucash | Jun 22 2018, 09:00 PM Post #40 |
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I'm sure you're a decent guy PA, but having your entire world view hinge upon a hypocritical fiction writer who herself took government benefits is a bit...um....much? Ironic even.
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| "...a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is detrimental...having lost the will..to demand...good..." - Rachel Carson | |
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