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Deutsche Bank fails Fed stress test while 3 US lenders stumble
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Deutsche Bank fails Fed stress test while 3 US lenders stumble
6/29/18

Deutsche Bank AG's U.S. subsidiary failed on Thursday the second part of the U.S. Federal Reserve's annual stress tests due to "widespread and critical deficiencies" in the bank's capital planning controls.

The Fed board's unanimous objection to Deutsche Bank's U.S. capital plan marks another blow for the German lender, sending its shares down 1 percent after hours. Its financial health globally has been under intense scrutiny after S&P cut its rating and questioned its plan to return to profitability.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/29/deutsche-bank-fails-fed-stress-test-while-3-us-lenders-stumble.html
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According to WSJ calculations, Deutsche Bank’s market capitalization has fallen to a level that would see it removed from the Euro Stoxx 50, taking the lender out of the orbit of exchange-traded-funds with €42.5 billion ($49.1 billion) in assets that follow this index.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-29/failing-deutsche-bank-may-be-kicked-out-key-european-index
Edited by Robertr2000, Jun 29 2018, 10:11 AM.
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Oh Look! Tyler Durden is still too gutless to use his real name :biggrin:
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Jun 30 2018, 08:33 AM
Oh Look! Tyler Durden is still too gutless to use his real name :biggrin:

Hi RaiderNation. My name is Robert. What's yours?
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just an fyi... Tyler Durden is more than one person, like George Alligator.

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Deutsche Bank's U.S. Unit Fails Second Round of Stress Test
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July 2, 2018


eutsche Bank’s DB U.S. subsidiary, DB USA Corporation (“DBUSA”) has failed the second level of the Federal Reserve’s stress test on qualitative basis. This is the first time that DBUSA publicly participated in the comprehensive capital analysis and review program.

DBUSA’s capital plan has been rejected by the Fed due to “widespread and critical deficiencies” in its capital planning. Also, the reviewer found weakness in data capabilities and controls that contribute in DBUSA’s capital planning process.

Flaws were discovered in assumptions used in forecasting revenues and losses that might be incurred from its key business lines or in a stressed environment. The regulator also found loopholes in DBUSA’s risk management area that includes model risk management and internal audit.

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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/deutsche-bank-apos-u-unit-143002448.html

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from your source...

DBUSA, however, passed the test on quantitative basis. The Fed concluded that even in a severely adverse economic scenario, DBUSA’s Common Equity Tier 1 capital would remain above the minimum requirement of 4.5% and would not fall below 12.2% over the nine-quarter planning horizon. The regulator also found that DBUSA’s Tier 1 Leverage Ratio would remain well above the regulatory minimum of 4% and would not fall below 5.7%.

As Deutsche Bank has been added to the list of troubled banks, the market had been expecting that it might fail this year’s stress test. However, the stock gained 1.4% on the NYSE in the last day’s trading session, reflecting investors’ positive reaction to the Germany-based lender’s promise to improve capital planning capabilities.
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An yet the Stock keeps going down.

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Is it your assertion that Deutsche Bank is in no danger of collapsing?
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Is it your assertion that Deutsche Bank is in no danger of collapsing?
However, the stock gained 1.4% on the NYSE in the last day’s trading session, reflecting investors’ positive reaction to the Germany-based lender’s promise to improve capital planning capabilities.

It's more likely that it'll be bought out by another bank.
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Jul 3 2018, 09:20 PM
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Jul 3 2018, 09:00 PM
An yet the Stock keeps going down.

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Is it your assertion that Deutsche Bank is in no danger of collapsing?
However, the stock gained 1.4% on the NYSE in the last day’s trading session, reflecting investors’ positive reaction to the Germany-based lender’s promise to improve capital planning capabilities.

It's more likely that it'll be bought out by another bank.
The entire sector went up at the same Time.


And you didn't answer my question.




No entity is big enough to buy out DB. Save maybe the German government. And that would be tantamount to a collapse. How do you survive in the world? Financially speaking.
Edited by Robertr2000, Jul 3 2018, 11:16 PM.
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Jul 3 2018, 11:13 PM
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Jul 3 2018, 09:20 PM
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Jul 3 2018, 09:00 PM
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Is it your assertion that Deutsche Bank is in no danger of collapsing?
However, the stock gained 1.4% on the NYSE in the last day’s trading session, reflecting investors’ positive reaction to the Germany-based lender’s promise to improve capital planning capabilities.

It's more likely that it'll be bought out by another bank.
The entire sector went up at the same Time.


And you didn't answer my question.




No entity is big enough to buy out DB. Save maybe the German government. And that would be tantamount to a collapse. How do you survive in the world? Financially speaking.
One could ask the same of you Mr Silver Stacker...

Morgan Stanley already owns 7% of Deutsche Bank. Cerberus(US private equity firm) owns 3% of Deutsche Bank and 5% of Commerzbank which has already had merger talks with Deutsche Bank. The sharks are circling.

https://www.ft.com/content/f88420c4-ca26-11e7-ab18-7a9fb7d6163e
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Jun 30 2018, 08:33 AM
Oh Look! Tyler Durden is still too gutless to use his real name :biggrin:
just an fyi... Tyler Durden is more than one person, like George Alligator.
I, and about everyone else is aware of that. All that means is there's more than one coward writing on zero hedge. Maybe they should rename it zero balls :biggrin:

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Jul 3 2018, 05:32 PM
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Jun 30 2018, 08:33 AM
Oh Look! Tyler Durden is still too gutless to use his real name :biggrin:
just an fyi... Tyler Durden is more than one person, like George Alligator.
I, and about everyone else is aware of that. All that means is there's more than one coward writing on zero hedge. Maybe they should rename it zero balls :biggrin:

Can you disprove their articles?
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Jul 3 2018, 11:35 PM
Robertr2000
Jul 3 2018, 11:13 PM
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Jul 3 2018, 09:20 PM
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Jul 3 2018, 09:00 PM
An yet the Stock keeps going down.

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Is it your assertion that Deutsche Bank is in no danger of collapsing?
However, the stock gained 1.4% on the NYSE in the last day’s trading session, reflecting investors’ positive reaction to the Germany-based lender’s promise to improve capital planning capabilities.

It's more likely that it'll be bought out by another bank.
The entire sector went up at the same Time.


And you didn't answer my question.




No entity is big enough to buy out DB. Save maybe the German government. And that would be tantamount to a collapse. How do you survive in the world? Financially speaking.
One could ask the same of you Mr Silver Stacker...

Morgan Stanley already owns 7% of Deutsche Bank. Cerberus(US private equity firm) owns 3% of Deutsche Bank and 5% of Commerzbank which has already had merger talks with Deutsche Bank. The sharks are circling.

https://www.ft.com/content/f88420c4-ca26-11e7-ab18-7a9fb7d6163e
Ok good, you are starting to do your own research.


So given this information that you posted, why are/were you denying the weakness of Deutsche Bank?
:dunno:
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Jul 3 2018, 11:35 PM
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Jul 3 2018, 11:13 PM
jake58
Jul 3 2018, 09:20 PM
Robertr2000
Jul 3 2018, 09:00 PM
An yet the Stock keeps going down.

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Is it your assertion that Deutsche Bank is in no danger of collapsing?
However, the stock gained 1.4% on the NYSE in the last day’s trading session, reflecting investors’ positive reaction to the Germany-based lender’s promise to improve capital planning capabilities.

It's more likely that it'll be bought out by another bank.
The entire sector went up at the same Time.


And you didn't answer my question.




No entity is big enough to buy out DB. Save maybe the German government. And that would be tantamount to a collapse. How do you survive in the world? Financially speaking.
One could ask the same of you Mr Silver Stacker...

Morgan Stanley already owns 7% of Deutsche Bank. Cerberus(US private equity firm) owns 3% of Deutsche Bank and 5% of Commerzbank which has already had merger talks with Deutsche Bank. The sharks are circling.

https://www.ft.com/content/f88420c4-ca26-11e7-ab18-7a9fb7d6163e
Ok good, you are starting to do your own research.


So given this information that you posted, why are/were you denying the weakness of Deutsche Bank?
:dunno:
I didn't deny the 'weakness' of DBs position
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Is it your assertion that Deutsche Bank is in no danger of collapsing? However, the stock gained 1.4% on the NYSE in the last day’s trading session, reflecting investors’ positive reaction to the Germany-based lender’s promise to improve capital planning capabilities.

It's more likely that it'll be bought out by another bank.
The entire sector went up at the same Time.


And you didn't answer my question.




No entity is big enough to buy out DB. Save maybe the German government. And that would be tantamount to a collapse. How do you survive in the world? Financially speaking.
One could ask the same of you Mr Silver Stacker...

Morgan Stanley already owns 7% of Deutsche Bank. Cerberus(US private equity firm) owns 3% of Deutsche Bank and 5% of Commerzbank which has already had merger talks with Deutsche Bank. The sharks are circling.

https://www.ft.com/content/f88420c4-ca26-11e7-ab18-7a9fb7d6163e
Ok good, you are starting to do your own research.


So given this information that you posted, why are/were you denying the weakness of Deutsche Bank?
:dunno:
I didn't deny the 'weakness' of DBs position
You argued against the premise that DB is going down. Unless you now agree..... idk.

http://perspectives.com/topic/10515809/2/

jake58
Jun 24 2018, 02:49 PM
Robertr2000
Jun 24 2018, 12:08 PM
The Deutsche Bank Downfall How a Pillar of German Banking Lost Its Way

For most of its 146 years, Deutsche Bank was the embodiment of German values: reliable and safe. Now, the once-proud institution is facing the abyss. SPIEGEL tells the story of how Deutsche's 1990s rush to join the world banking elite paved the way for its own downfall.

Greed, provincialism, cowardice, unfocused aggression, mania, egoism, immaturity, mendacity, incompetence, weakness, pride, blundering, decadence, arrogance, a need for admiration, naiveté: If you are looking for words that explain the fall of Deutsche Bank, you can choose freely and justifiably from among the above list.

The bank, 146 years after its founding, has become the target for all manner of pejoratives, and not just from outside observers. All of the above terms were used in interviews held during months of reporting into the causes of the downfall of Germany's largest financial institution. They popped up over the course of several hours of interviews with four Deutsche Bank CEOs, three former and one current. And they were uttered in interviews with eight additional senior bank managers and board members conducted over the course of several years, from the 1990s until today, and in meetings with captains of industry who know the bank well and during encounters with major stakeholders. More than anything, the disparaging words come up frequently in interviews with those who have worked or still work at the bank as customer service advisors, as branch managers or in positions lower down on the food chain.

What we have found in the course of these myriad interviews -- combined with the hours spent analyzing bank balance sheets, thousands of pages of files, committee meeting minutes and archive material -- is that the collapse of Deutsche Bank is the result of years, decades, of failed leadership, culminating in the complete loss of control of the company by top managers during the period between 1994 and 2012.

:popcorn:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/the-story-of-the-self-destruction-of-deutsche-bank-a-1118157.html
It was included in the Fed's recent stress test and passed... doesn't sound like a bank 'going down'... stock price is down 43% since the beginning of the year, with a reorg in progress and that's why it looks like an attractive play to some investors... we'll count you as a 'no'

https://investorplace.com/2018/06/3-bank-stocks-to-buy-after-the-feds-stress-tests/


Edited by Robertr2000, Jul 5 2018, 09:51 AM.
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Is it your assertion that Deutsche Bank is in no danger of collapsing? However, the stock gained 1.4% on the NYSE in the last day’s trading session, reflecting investors’ positive reaction to the Germany-based lender’s promise to improve capital planning capabilities. The entire sector went up at the same Time.


And you didn't answer my question.




No entity is big enough to buy out DB. Save maybe the German government. And that would be tantamount to a collapse. How do you survive in the world? Financially speaking.
One could ask the same of you Mr Silver Stacker...

Morgan Stanley already owns 7% of Deutsche Bank. Cerberus(US private equity firm) owns 3% of Deutsche Bank and 5% of Commerzbank which has already had merger talks with Deutsche Bank. The sharks are circling.

https://www.ft.com/content/f88420c4-ca26-11e7-ab18-7a9fb7d6163e
Ok good, you are starting to do your own research.


So given this information that you posted, why are/were you denying the weakness of Deutsche Bank?
:dunno:
I didn't deny the 'weakness' of DBs position
You argued against the premise that DB is going down. Unless you now agree..... idk.

http://perspectives.com/topic/10515809/2/

jake58
Jun 24 2018, 02:49 PM
Robertr2000
Jun 24 2018, 12:08 PM
The Deutsche Bank Downfall How a Pillar of German Banking Lost Its Way

For most of its 146 years, Deutsche Bank was the embodiment of German values: reliable and safe. Now, the once-proud institution is facing the abyss. SPIEGEL tells the story of how Deutsche's 1990s rush to join the world banking elite paved the way for its own downfall.

Greed, provincialism, cowardice, unfocused aggression, mania, egoism, immaturity, mendacity, incompetence, weakness, pride, blundering, decadence, arrogance, a need for admiration, naiveté: If you are looking for words that explain the fall of Deutsche Bank, you can choose freely and justifiably from among the above list.

The bank, 146 years after its founding, has become the target for all manner of pejoratives, and not just from outside observers. All of the above terms were used in interviews held during months of reporting into the causes of the downfall of Germany's largest financial institution. They popped up over the course of several hours of interviews with four Deutsche Bank CEOs, three former and one current. And they were uttered in interviews with eight additional senior bank managers and board members conducted over the course of several years, from the 1990s until today, and in meetings with captains of industry who know the bank well and during encounters with major stakeholders. More than anything, the disparaging words come up frequently in interviews with those who have worked or still work at the bank as customer service advisors, as branch managers or in positions lower down on the food chain.

What we have found in the course of these myriad interviews -- combined with the hours spent analyzing bank balance sheets, thousands of pages of files, committee meeting minutes and archive material -- is that the collapse of Deutsche Bank is the result of years, decades, of failed leadership, culminating in the complete loss of control of the company by top managers during the period between 1994 and 2012.

:popcorn:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/the-story-of-the-self-destruction-of-deutsche-bank-a-1118157.html
It was included in the Fed's recent stress test and passed... doesn't sound like a bank 'going down'... stock price is down 43% since the beginning of the year, with a reorg in progress and that's why it looks like an attractive play to some investors... we'll count you as a 'no'

https://investorplace.com/2018/06/3-bank-stocks-to-buy-after-the-feds-stress-tests/


I clearly stated that the stock price had gone down(at that point) 43% on the year. In your salad days you would consider that a 'buying opportunity.' As was pointed out, others are looking at it as a buying opportunity.

It's probably in the 'too big to fail' category which makes your thesis, that it is 'going down' or out of business or whatever zerohedge's conjecture is, unlikely to be proven... like all your theses.
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Is it your assertion that Deutsche Bank is in no danger of collapsing? However, the stock gained 1.4% on the NYSE in the last day’s trading session, reflecting investors’ positive reaction to the Germany-based lender’s promise to improve capital planning capabilities. The entire sector went up at the same Time.


And you didn't answer my question.




No entity is big enough to buy out DB. Save maybe the German government. And that would be tantamount to a collapse. How do you survive in the world? Financially speaking.
https://www.ft.com/content/f88420c4-ca26-11e7-ab18-7a9fb7d6163e
Ok good, you are starting to do your own research.


So given this information that you posted, why are/were you denying the weakness of Deutsche Bank?
:dunno:
I didn't deny the 'weakness' of DBs position
You argued against the premise that DB is going down. Unless you now agree..... idk.

http://perspectives.com/topic/10515809/2/

jake58
Jun 24 2018, 02:49 PM
Robertr2000
Jun 24 2018, 12:08 PM
The Deutsche Bank Downfall How a Pillar of German Banking Lost Its Way

For most of its 146 years, Deutsche Bank was the embodiment of German values: reliable and safe. Now, the once-proud institution is facing the abyss. SPIEGEL tells the story of how Deutsche's 1990s rush to join the world banking elite paved the way for its own downfall.

Greed, provincialism, cowardice, unfocused aggression, mania, egoism, immaturity, mendacity, incompetence, weakness, pride, blundering, decadence, arrogance, a need for admiration, naiveté: If you are looking for words that explain the fall of Deutsche Bank, you can choose freely and justifiably from among the above list.

The bank, 146 years after its founding, has become the target for all manner of pejoratives, and not just from outside observers. All of the above terms were used in interviews held during months of reporting into the causes of the downfall of Germany's largest financial institution. They popped up over the course of several hours of interviews with four Deutsche Bank CEOs, three former and one current. And they were uttered in interviews with eight additional senior bank managers and board members conducted over the course of several years, from the 1990s until today, and in meetings with captains of industry who know the bank well and during encounters with major stakeholders. More than anything, the disparaging words come up frequently in interviews with those who have worked or still work at the bank as customer service advisors, as branch managers or in positions lower down on the food chain.

What we have found in the course of these myriad interviews -- combined with the hours spent analyzing bank balance sheets, thousands of pages of files, committee meeting minutes and archive material -- is that the collapse of Deutsche Bank is the result of years, decades, of failed leadership, culminating in the complete loss of control of the company by top managers during the period between 1994 and 2012.

:popcorn:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/the-story-of-the-self-destruction-of-deutsche-bank-a-1118157.html
It was included in the Fed's recent stress test and passed... doesn't sound like a bank 'going down'... stock price is down 43% since the beginning of the year, with a reorg in progress and that's why it looks like an attractive play to some investors... we'll count you as a 'no'

https://investorplace.com/2018/06/3-bank-stocks-to-buy-after-the-feds-stress-tests/


I clearly stated that the stock price had gone down(at that point) 43% on the year. In your salad days you would consider that a 'buying opportunity.' As was pointed out, others are looking at it as a buying opportunity.

It's probably in the 'too big to fail' category which makes your thesis, that it is 'going down' or out of business or whatever zerohedge's conjecture is, unlikely to be proven... like all your theses.
"with a reorg in progress and that's why it looks like an attractive play to some investors... we'll count you as a 'no'"

I guess we'll count you as a 'yes' :shakeshead:
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