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U.S. assessing cost of keeping troops in Germany as Trump battles with Europe
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Topic Started: Jun 29 2018, 06:34 PM (360 Views)
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PATruth
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Jun 30 2018, 02:59 PM
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Why on earth are we even there? Can anyone answer that? Bring them home and give me a tax cut. The Germans can pay all their wonderful immigrants to defend them. They are already armed and dangerous, just point them towards France and German glory can be restored.
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Jun 30 2018, 04:54 PM
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Why on earth are we even there? Can anyone answer that? Bring them home and give me a tax cut. The Germans can pay all their wonderful immigrants to defend them. They are already armed and dangerous, just point them towards France and German glory can be restored.
Agreed....but I am intrigued by the Poland plan....
http://perspectives.com/topic/10513442/
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Jun 30 2018, 07:08 PM
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For the simple-minded, and yes I mean that, Trump voter who cannot comprehend international trade, it is no wonder they cannot understand this.
US bases in Europe (Germany) are not there to support those countries. They are there to support American forces. For decades they have provided a forward base for US troops, a resupply point and an emergency evacuation center. The military hospital in Germany is top notch and has been used consistently to make sure we can get injured troops to quick, efficient medical care form points in the ME, Africa and if needed Europe. They provide supply points for operations in the Mediterranean and points East.
We removed the bulk of our troops long ago, the ones that were the tripwire against the Soviets. Today's tripwire troops are in the Baltic States and Poland. It is no wonder that Poland wants a base, they want our security, the type of security that the Trumpies complain about.
Today's European bases are all about our convenience and the security of our troops.
I prefer not to sit on a live grenade for the sake of Germans or French.....New Jersey has all the forward bases we need..............
You missed the whole point of it, we are not there for the German or the French, we are there for US servicemen. And no, New Jersey does not have what we need. It is about 4000 miles away from what we need.
Great Britain took all their troops out of Europe, why can't we ???...Our being there is merely financial foreign aid to the rich EU........... Because they don't gain anything. The US bases in Europe are there to support US troops fighting in the Middle East, Asia and Africa. It is a forward operating bases that makes it practical to ship severely injured soldiers to an advanced hospital much closer to the battle than the mainland. It is also a closer area to stage our troops and special operations soldiers who need to respond quickly.
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Jun 30 2018, 09:58 PM
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For the simple-minded, and yes I mean that, Trump voter who cannot comprehend international trade, it is no wonder they cannot understand this.
US bases in Europe (Germany) are not there to support those countries. They are there to support American forces. For decades they have provided a forward base for US troops, a resupply point and an emergency evacuation center. The military hospital in Germany is top notch and has been used consistently to make sure we can get injured troops to quick, efficient medical care form points in the ME, Africa and if needed Europe. They provide supply points for operations in the Mediterranean and points East.
We removed the bulk of our troops long ago, the ones that were the tripwire against the Soviets. Today's tripwire troops are in the Baltic States and Poland. It is no wonder that Poland wants a base, they want our security, the type of security that the Trumpies complain about.
Today's European bases are all about our convenience and the security of our troops.
I prefer not to sit on a live grenade for the sake of Germans or French.....New Jersey has all the forward bases we need..............
You missed the whole point of it, we are not there for the German or the French, we are there for US servicemen. And no, New Jersey does not have what we need. It is about 4000 miles away from what we need.
Great Britain took all their troops out of Europe, why can't we ???...Our being there is merely financial foreign aid to the rich EU...........
Because they don't gain anything. The US bases in Europe are there to support US troops fighting in the Middle East, Asia and Africa. It is a forward operating bases that makes it practical to ship severely injured soldiers to an advanced hospital much closer to the battle than the mainland. It is also a closer area to stage our troops and special operations soldiers who need to respond quickly. Don’t fight in the Middle East, Africa, or Asia
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Jul 1 2018, 12:36 AM
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Look for additional U.S. base closures in Europe after the new year, which really shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. My former base closed in 97, with the main reason being budgetary constraints. Thanks largely to Trump's billionaire tax cuts this time, which means we can no longer afford to protect our allies and deter communist aggression in Europe. We do not need to protect our allies any longer. Let them man up and protect themselves. We can reduce our nation debt by pulling troops. Germany built a great army leading up to WWII. France developed a great pussy corps during that same time. Europe does not need the US. The US does not need Europe.
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Jul 1 2018, 12:37 AM
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For the simple-minded, and yes I mean that, Trump voter who cannot comprehend international trade, it is no wonder they cannot understand this.
US bases in Europe (Germany) are not there to support those countries. They are there to support American forces. For decades they have provided a forward base for US troops, a resupply point and an emergency evacuation center. The military hospital in Germany is top notch and has been used consistently to make sure we can get injured troops to quick, efficient medical care form points in the ME, Africa and if needed Europe. They provide supply points for operations in the Mediterranean and points East.
We removed the bulk of our troops long ago, the ones that were the tripwire against the Soviets. Today's tripwire troops are in the Baltic States and Poland. It is no wonder that Poland wants a base, they want our security, the type of security that the Trumpies complain about.
Today's European bases are all about our convenience and the security of our troops.
I prefer not to sit on a live grenade for the sake of Germans or French.....New Jersey has all the forward bases we need..............
You missed the whole point of it, we are not there for the German or the French, we are there for US servicemen. And no, New Jersey does not have what we need. It is about 4000 miles away from what we need.
Great Britain took all their troops out of Europe, why can't we ???...Our being there is merely financial foreign aid to the rich EU...........
Because they don't gain anything. The US bases in Europe are there to support US troops fighting in the Middle East, Asia and Africa. It is a forward operating bases that makes it practical to ship severely injured soldiers to an advanced hospital much closer to the battle than the mainland. It is also a closer area to stage our troops and special operations soldiers who need to respond quickly. Buck does make a decent point.
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Jul 1 2018, 05:06 AM
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Let Germany and France build Leopards to counter the neighbors to the east...
Those boys have been there since 1945... Time to come home
Close the European Bases
Spend the money on our VETS instead...
Agreed. It is indeed time for Europe to look after its own defence - The USA should be concentrating its assets in the Pacific - H
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H4T wrote: [Global] nuclear annihilation is preferable to the pre-Trump immigration/refugee policies.
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Jul 1 2018, 05:09 AM
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Let Germany and France build Leopards to counter the neighbors to the east...
Those boys have been there since 1945... Time to come home
Close the European Bases
Spend the money on our VETS instead...
Agreed. It is indeed time for Europe to look after its own defence - The USA should be concentrating its assets in the Pacific - H No, the USA should be withdrawing from Asia as well. Korea and Japan are wealthy nations capable of defending themselves.
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Jul 1 2018, 05:11 AM
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US bases in Europe (Germany) are not there to support those countries. They are there to support American forces. For decades they have provided a forward base for US troops, a resupply point and an emergency evacuation center. The military hospital in Germany is top notch and has been used consistently to make sure we can get injured troops to quick, efficient medical care form points in the ME, Africa and if needed Europe. They provide supply points for operations in the Mediterranean and points East. A very valid point - H
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H4T wrote: [Global] nuclear annihilation is preferable to the pre-Trump immigration/refugee policies.
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Jul 1 2018, 05:13 AM
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The Pentagon is analyzing the cost and impact of a large-scale withdrawal or transfer of American troops stationed in Germany, amid growing tensions between President Trump and German Chancellor Angela Merkel, according to people familiar with the work. Source
 Excellent! - H
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H4T wrote: [Global] nuclear annihilation is preferable to the pre-Trump immigration/refugee policies.
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Jul 1 2018, 04:49 PM
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You missed the whole point of it, we are not there for the German or the French, we are there for US servicemen. And no, New Jersey does not have what we need. It is about 4000 miles away from what we need.
Great Britain took all their troops out of Europe, why can't we ???...Our being there is merely financial foreign aid to the rich EU...........
Because they don't gain anything. The US bases in Europe are there to support US troops fighting in the Middle East, Asia and Africa. It is a forward operating bases that makes it practical to ship severely injured soldiers to an advanced hospital much closer to the battle than the mainland. It is also a closer area to stage our troops and special operations soldiers who need to respond quickly.
Buck does make a decent point. I thought that is why we have "quick reaction " and amphibious forces for....As for our hospital in Germany, there are many good hospitals in the EU to use.....Besides , if we are not sending troops to the Middle East and Africa, our troops will have little need for a fancy hospital overseas....Buck makes a point of an American empire which no longer exists...What is now appropriate is to avoid foreign entanglements that George Washington suggested............
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