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Trade War and Canadian Pride Mix in Retaliatory Tariffs Against U.S.
Topic Started: Jul 1 2018, 10:28 AM (185 Views)
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OTTAWA — This year on Canada Day, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau will visit a former Heinz ketchup plant in Ontario and, later Sunday, meet steelworkers in Saskatchewan.

It’s a schedule rich with the symbolism of the moment: Sunday is also the day Canada retaliated against the Trump administration’s tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminum with import duties on $12.6 billion of Americ

The White House’s use of a national security argument to justify the duties against a close ally, along with President Trump’s repeated belittling of both Mr. Trudeau and his trade policies, has offended and angered Canadians. On social media, they are calling for boycotts of American products and encouraging one another to look elsewhere for vacation destinations. Mr. Trudeau’s decision to retaliate won a rare endorsement from all three of Canada’s major political parties.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/30/business/canada-day-tariffs-trade.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
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This brave new Canadian face won't last long....Their face will drop when Trump pulls out of NAFTA and requires car companies to return their factories to the USA........... :lol:
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If the expectation is that we completely economically dominate the Canadians, forcing them to accept a trade deal that is significantly at their expense, I can't see why they would want to accept it. Deals are supposed to be balanced and reciprocal in order to succeed. Expecting Canada to bend over and take from the U.S. is not the basis for good trade or good alliances.
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Jul 2 2018, 01:07 AM
If the expectation is that we completely economically dominate the Canadians, forcing them to accept a trade deal that is significantly at their expense, I can't see why they would want to accept it. Deals are supposed to be balanced and reciprocal in order to succeed. Expecting Canada to bend over and take from the U.S. is not the basis for good trade or good alliances.
We don't need any friends like Canada or Mexico.......... :rollseyes:
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Jul 2 2018, 04:51 AM
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Jul 2 2018, 01:07 AM
If the expectation is that we completely economically dominate the Canadians, forcing them to accept a trade deal that is significantly at their expense, I can't see why they would want to accept it. Deals are supposed to be balanced and reciprocal in order to succeed. Expecting Canada to bend over and take from the U.S. is not the basis for good trade or good alliances.
We don't need any friends like Canada or Mexico.......... :rollseyes:
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Trump is trying to persuading the canadians to support a capitalist for PM next year.....

and he's succeeding :)
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Jul 2 2018, 01:07 AM
If the expectation is that we completely economically dominate the Canadians, forcing them to accept a trade deal that is significantly at their expense, I can't see why they would want to accept it. Deals are supposed to be balanced and reciprocal in order to succeed. Expecting Canada to bend over and take from the U.S. is not the basis for good trade or good alliances.
the deal is that we (Americans) want reciprocal trade agreements

if they impose 20% on us, we will impose 20% on them

there are already signs that the Germans are close to caving

Canada will cave as well; they need us more than we need them

What is going to happen - our trading partners will negotiate new deals with us; we will STILL probably pay a little more, but that gap will close

things will get cheaper and the economy will continue to be stronger

and our media will look for the next "muh kids in cages: story to beat their drums about

you're welcome for this glimpse into the future

:cheers:
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Canada has world-wide trading partners and while the US and Canada do more trade between us than any two other countries in the world, we can do without you. We won't miss bourbon, coors, bud because we make far superior products here. Chump on the other hand risks thousands of US jobs with his talk of tariffs on the auto-industry. Jobs in states which largely helped the Orange Clown get elected. He is mentally unstable, a psychopath and a megalomaniac.
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Jul 2 2018, 12:39 PM
Canada has world-wide trading partners and while the US and Canada do more trade between us than any two other countries in the world, we can do without you. We won't miss bourbon, coors, bud because we make far superior products here. Chump on the other hand risks thousands of US jobs with his talk of tariffs on the auto-industry. Jobs in states which largely helped the Orange Clown get elected. He is mentally unstable, a psychopath and a megalomaniac.
Outside of hockey players and a couple whiskies, Canada makes nothing I want or need. Your beer absolutely sucks, you have nothing that even compares to the variety of American micro-brews. Justin is nothing more than a white version of Obama, an arse kissing socialist. The handful of Canadians I know accept the fact he's a spineless idiot. Hopefully Trump will send millions of our illegal Mexicans up your way, they will fit in well with the Arab population that's talking over. Are you studying Arabic?
Edited by PATruth, Jul 2 2018, 01:01 PM.
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Jul 2 2018, 12:39 PM
Canada has world-wide trading partners and while the US and Canada do more trade between us than any two other countries in the world, we can do without you. We won't miss bourbon, coors, bud because we make far superior products here. Chump on the other hand risks thousands of US jobs with his talk of tariffs on the auto-industry. Jobs in states which largely helped the Orange Clown get elected. He is mentally unstable, a psychopath and a megalomaniac.
You hate Trump because he is a capitalist.

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Jul 2 2018, 12:39 PM
Canada has world-wide trading partners and while the US and Canada do more trade between us than any two other countries in the world, we can do without you. We won't miss bourbon, coors, bud because we make far superior products here. Chump on the other hand risks thousands of US jobs with his talk of tariffs on the auto-industry. Jobs in states which largely helped the Orange Clown get elected. He is mentally unstable, a psychopath and a megalomaniac.
Outside of hockey players and a couple whiskies, Canada makes nothing I want or need. Your beer absolutely sucks, you have nothing that even compares to the variety of American micro-brews. Justin is nothing more than a white version of Obama, an arse kissing socialist. The handful of Canadians I know accept the fact he's a spineless idiot. Hopefully Trump will send millions of our illegal Mexicans up your way, they will fit in well with the Arab population that's talking over. Are you studying Arabic?
You sure live up to your avatar.
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I doubt any Americans think Canada is a threat to our national security. That was just a trick to get around the Constitution because tariffs are acts of Congress. The national security provision is for emergencies, not politics. Congress wouldn't dare to insult and attack our neighbors and best friends to the north. This situation is crazy. I suppose lots of Trump fans down in Dixie have no idea about what Canada is like. I suppose some of them think Calais, Maine, is like el Paso, Texas. It isn't really. It just isn't.
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Jul 3 2018, 03:26 PM
I doubt any Americans think Canada is a threat to our national security. That was just a trick to get around the Constitution because tariffs are acts of Congress. The national security provision is for emergencies, not politics. Congress wouldn't dare to insult and attack our neighbors and best friends to the north. This situation is crazy. I suppose lots of Trump fans down in Dixie have no idea about what Canada is like. I suppose some of them think Calais, Maine, is like el Paso, Texas. It isn't really. It just isn't.
These bezerkers to our north have already burnt down the Whitehouse and suckered us into bailing them out of two world wars.....I don't want to give them another chance to be our "friend".....We should close our border with Canada...A wall may be needed......... :mad:
Edited by Robert Stout, Jul 4 2018, 04:34 AM.
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Jul 4 2018, 04:33 AM
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Jul 3 2018, 03:26 PM
I doubt any Americans think Canada is a threat to our national security. That was just a trick to get around the Constitution because tariffs are acts of Congress. The national security provision is for emergencies, not politics. Congress wouldn't dare to insult and attack our neighbors and best friends to the north. This situation is crazy. I suppose lots of Trump fans down in Dixie have no idea about what Canada is like. I suppose some of them think Calais, Maine, is like el Paso, Texas. It isn't really. It just isn't.
These bezerkers to our north have already burnt down the Whitehouse and suckered us into bailing them out of two world wars.....I don't want to give them another chance to be our "friend".....We should close our border with Canada...A wall may be needed......... :mad:
Your silly troll ^^^ proves my point. Your deliberate ignorance of Canada's military history is deeply insulting to Canadians and embarrassing to Americans who have served. Shame on you!
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Jul 3 2018, 03:26 PM
I doubt any Americans think Canada is a threat to our national security. That was just a trick to get around the Constitution because tariffs are acts of Congress. The national security provision is for emergencies, not politics. Congress wouldn't dare to insult and attack our neighbors and best friends to the north. This situation is crazy. I suppose lots of Trump fans down in Dixie have no idea about what Canada is like. I suppose some of them think Calais, Maine, is like el Paso, Texas. It isn't really. It just isn't.
These bezerkers to our north have already burnt down the Whitehouse and suckered us into bailing them out of two world wars.....I don't want to give them another chance to be our "friend".....We should close our border with Canada...A wall may be needed......... :mad:
Your silly troll ^^^ proves my point. Your deliberate ignorance of Canada's military history is deeply insulting to Canadians and embarrassing to Americans who have served. Shame on you!
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Jul 4 2018, 03:28 PM
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Jul 4 2018, 08:57 AM
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George Aligator
Jul 3 2018, 03:26 PM
I doubt any Americans think Canada is a threat to our national security. That was just a trick to get around the Constitution because tariffs are acts of Congress. The national security provision is for emergencies, not politics. Congress wouldn't dare to insult and attack our neighbors and best friends to the north. This situation is crazy. I suppose lots of Trump fans down in Dixie have no idea about what Canada is like. I suppose some of them think Calais, Maine, is like el Paso, Texas. It isn't really. It just isn't.
These bezerkers to our north have already burnt down the Whitehouse and suckered us into bailing them out of two world wars.....I don't want to give them another chance to be our "friend".....We should close our border with Canada...A wall may be needed......... :mad:
Your silly troll ^^^ proves my point. Your deliberate ignorance of Canada's military history is deeply insulting to Canadians and embarrassing to Americans who have served. Shame on you!
Did you "Serve" ThisGeorge?
Yes, I served in USMC and met a number of the 30,000 Canadians who volunteered to fight in our Vietnam War -- a number roughly equal to the number of Americans who sought asylum from that war in Canada.
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Jul 4 2018, 06:54 PM
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Jul 4 2018, 03:28 PM
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George Aligator
Jul 3 2018, 03:26 PM
I doubt any Americans think Canada is a threat to our national security. That was just a trick to get around the Constitution because tariffs are acts of Congress. The national security provision is for emergencies, not politics. Congress wouldn't dare to insult and attack our neighbors and best friends to the north. This situation is crazy. I suppose lots of Trump fans down in Dixie have no idea about what Canada is like. I suppose some of them think Calais, Maine, is like el Paso, Texas. It isn't really. It just isn't.
These bezerkers to our north have already burnt down the Whitehouse and suckered us into bailing them out of two world wars.....I don't want to give them another chance to be our "friend".....We should close our border with Canada...A wall may be needed......... :mad:
Your silly troll ^^^ proves my point. Your deliberate ignorance of Canada's military history is deeply insulting to Canadians and embarrassing to Americans who have served. Shame on you!
Did you "Serve" ThisGeorge?
Yes, I served in USMC and met a number of the 30,000 Canadians who volunteered to fight in our Vietnam War -- a number roughly equal to the number of Americans who sought asylum from that war in Canada.
I served with two Canadians in my Company...One died in my arms and the other was wounded...They both told me that they had made a terrible mistake by finding more adventure than they expected...Neither enlisted to "fight communism" or help the USA.......... :oyvey:
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Why, in the name of some cheap partisan slur, insult the memory of one of America's closest allies?

World War I:Some 619,636 Canadians enlisted with the Canadian Expeditionary Force during the war, and approximately 424,000 served overseas. Of these men and women, 59,544 members of the CEF died during the war, 51,748 of them as a result of enemy action.

World War II: More than 1.1 million Canadians served in the Canadian Army, Royal Canadian Navy, Royal Canadian Air Force, and in forces across the Commonwealth. More than 44,000 lost their lives and 54,000 were wounded.
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Jul 5 2018, 09:08 AM
Why, in the name of some cheap partisan slur, insult the memory of one of America's closest allies?

World War I:Some 619,636 Canadians enlisted with the Canadian Expeditionary Force during the war, and approximately 424,000 served overseas. Of these men and women, 59,544 members of the CEF died during the war, 51,748 of them as a result of enemy action.

World War II: More than 1.1 million Canadians served in the Canadian Army, Royal Canadian Navy, Royal Canadian Air Force, and in forces across the Commonwealth. More than 44,000 lost their lives and 54,000 were wounded.
Both were Europe's wars, not mine............ :rollseyes:
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Why, in the name of some cheap partisan slur, insult the memory of one of America's closest allies?

World War I:Some 619,636 Canadians enlisted with the Canadian Expeditionary Force during the war, and approximately 424,000 served overseas. Of these men and women, 59,544 members of the CEF died during the war, 51,748 of them as a result of enemy action.

World War II: More than 1.1 million Canadians served in the Canadian Army, Royal Canadian Navy, Royal Canadian Air Force, and in forces across the Commonwealth. More than 44,000 lost their lives and 54,000 were wounded.
Both were Europe's wars, not mine............ :rollseyes:
You said we bailed out Canada in both wars. An obscene insult as well as an amazing deliberate misreading of history. If you are going to keep trolling that sort of thing, there is nothing I have to say in response. I hope you will do better. There are so few Trump fans worth reading here and yet knowing what they think is my motive for logging on.
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