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Trump-Nato summit: EU's Tusk warns president to appreciate allies
Topic Started: Jul 11 2018, 01:38 AM (256 Views)
Hughmac

President Donald Trump is set to meet Nato leaders for potentially fractious talks at a summit in Brussels on Wednesday.

Ahead of his visit, Mr Trump hit out at the EU on trade and at his Nato allies for failing to spend enough on defence.

He was met with a sharp rebuke from European Council President Donald Tusk, who accused the president of criticising Europe "almost daily".

"Dear America, appreciate your allies, after all you don't have that many."

Mr Tusk added that the EU spent more than Russia on defence, and as much as China.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44780489
H4T wrote: lobal] nuclear annihilation is preferable to the pre-Trump immigration/refugee policies.
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Uncle Vlad treats us better than the EU.
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Harambe4Trump
Jul 11 2018, 01:39 AM
Uncle Vlad treats us better than the EU.
Let's face it; you treat yourselves like s**t by electing cretins like Bush and Trump - then you expect others to take you seriously - H
H4T wrote: lobal] nuclear annihilation is preferable to the pre-Trump immigration/refugee policies.
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Hughmac
Jul 11 2018, 02:29 AM
Harambe4Trump
Jul 11 2018, 01:39 AM
Uncle Vlad treats us better than the EU.
Let's face it; you treat yourselves like s**t by electing cretins like Bush and Trump - then you expect others to take you seriously - H
At least we don't have an overpaid queen to worship....Although....In all fairness Canada has two....
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Perhaps this "foreign entanglement" of America is a prime motive for those who voted for Donald Trump as they are sick and tired of America's exceptionalism?
The American heartland is sick of the USA's involvement in wars like Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan and its support for dictatorial regimes and for the spread of military bases all over the world.

A great deal of blood and treasure has been squandered and most of it from those Americans who previously believed in America's special place in the world.
The failure and moral loss of this ideology during these recent adventures for no gain in respect, territory or treasure has been festering and the people have finally rejected it.
Donald Trump is the evidence of an outcome of realization that there had been too much loss and perhaps a return to a more isolated America may be in our future?
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Jul 11 2018, 02:47 AM
Hughmac
Jul 11 2018, 02:29 AM
Harambe4Trump
Jul 11 2018, 01:39 AM
Uncle Vlad treats us better than the EU.
Let's face it; you treat yourselves like s**t by electing cretins like Bush and Trump - then you expect others to take you seriously - H
At least we don't have an overpaid queen to worship....Although....In all fairness Canada has two....
The Queen, my fine republican rebel, earns more money for the country than she costs. She also commands more respect, as a person, around the world, than obnoxious, loudmouth Trump, (despite the disparity in their influence as Head of State).

She has been in power since Eisenhower and has seen all your presidents come and go with dreary regularity; from the decent ones, whom you invariably shoot dead, to the Alfred E. Neuman's, whom you - to the bemused merriment of the rest of the world - venerate.

The difference is, oh bewildered one, is that the Queen commands respect whereas Mr Trump commands attention. The day that you actually get around to electing somebody whom the world respects then you can whinge about Queen Elizabeth II.

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H4T wrote: lobal] nuclear annihilation is preferable to the pre-Trump immigration/refugee policies.
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longbich
Jul 11 2018, 02:50 AM
Perhaps this "foreign entanglement" of America is a prime motive for those who voted for Donald Trump as they are sick and tired of America's exceptionalism?
The American heartland is sick of the USA's involvement in wars like Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan and its support for dictatorial regimes and for the spread of military bases all over the world.

A great deal of blood and treasure has been squandered and most of it from those Americans who previously believed in America's special place in the world.
The failure and moral loss of this ideology during these recent adventures for no gain in respect, territory or treasure has been festering and the people have finally rejected it.
Donald Trump is the evidence of an outcome of realization that there had been too much loss and perhaps a return to a more isolated America may be in our future?
An acute and interesting observation - H
H4T wrote: lobal] nuclear annihilation is preferable to the pre-Trump immigration/refugee policies.
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Hughmac
Jul 11 2018, 01:38 AM
President Donald Trump is set to meet Nato leaders for potentially fractious talks at a summit in Brussels on Wednesday.

Ahead of his visit, Mr Trump hit out at the EU on trade and at his Nato allies for failing to spend enough on defence.

He was met with a sharp rebuke from European Council President Donald Tusk, who accused the president of criticising Europe "almost daily".

"Dear America, appreciate your allies, after all you don't have that many."

Mr Tusk added that the EU spent more than Russia on defence, and as much as China.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44780489
We are a nation that turns on it's Allies, embraces murderous leaders and we are isolating ourselves. Would you befriend this nation right now?

Our word is not worth spit. We are not reliable as partners. We once were world leaders. Now we are just another world power.

President Trump has led us to a post America world.





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Nato summit: Donald Trump says Germany is 'captive of Russians'
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US president says Berlin’s relationship with Moscow is ‘inappropriate’ in tirade on opening day of summit
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I don't recall the EU appreciating the USA for the Marshall Plan by making an attempt to pay us back...Don't expect Trump to conduct a worldwide "apology tour" like that punk Obama................ :confused:
Edited by Robert Stout, Jul 11 2018, 07:39 AM.
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Translation: EU wants free s**t from the US and demand US taxpayers pay for their free s**t.
Edited by Drudge X, Jul 11 2018, 09:35 AM.
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Jul 11 2018, 09:34 AM
Translation: EU wants free s**t from the US and demand US taxpayers pay for their free s**t.
Isn't it the Libs always harping we need to pay our fair share...? Or are the Euroweenies so weenie that they are to be treated like they are welfare broodmares ....

It's quite telling that simply asking them to pick up their part of the tab sends them to clutching their pearls with righteous indignation...


This is most of NATO.....

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Jul 11 2018, 05:23 AM
Nato summit: Donald Trump says Germany is 'captive of Russians'
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US president says Berlin’s relationship with Moscow is ‘inappropriate’ in tirade on opening day of summit
And it was glorious.... :usasmile:

https://youtu.be/lqwolBUIncY
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A fascinating topic....

I can still remember being with my relatives in Bavaria during the mid-80's. Reagan was in power and all the hub-ub was about the Pershing Missile. Hundreds of thousands of 'far' left-wing protesters, our allies, ..... :lol: , in the streets of Bonn and Berlin protesting against Ronald Reagan and his deployment of the Pershing missile on the continent. Yet, even then, Germany made itself dependent on Russian gas. No, to nuclear power plants. No, to increased usage of coal-fired plants. Our "allies" chose Russian gas as their source of cheap energy. And, like clockwork, every autumn, every approaching day of winter, the Russians would issue statements of warnings about cut-offs of Russian gas supplies if the Allies did (fill in the blank _________). Threats from the 1980's.

But, today, what's changed? Nothing!

Today: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5942109/Donald-Trump-RIGHT-Germany-imports-70-cent-gas-Russia.html

...."Donald Trump is RIGHT: Germany imports 70 per cent of its gas from Russia in a controversial deal that has enriched its former Chancellor and it will soon receive even MORE - but the US could step in." ....

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Donald Trump's claim that Germany imports 70 per cent of its gas from Russia at a fiery Nato summit today is correct - and the country will soon receive even more.

The EU's statistics agency, Eurostat, says that Russia is responsible for between 50% and 75% of Germany's total gas imports.

And experts say that figure could dramatically increase after a new pipeline between Russia and Germany opens in two years time.

Germany already imports 55 billion cubic meters of gas from Russia via the Nord Stream pipeline and in two years time will pump another 55 billion cubic meters through the new Nord Stream 2 network.

Most of the remaining 30% comes from Norway.


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And Trump is pointing out that the former Chancellor of Germany, Schroeder (SPD), is pocketing tens of millions of dollars promoting this gas project.

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Donald Trump also questioned the role of the former German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder who is now working for Gazprom.

Schroeder signed the deal for Nord Stream in haste after being ousted by Angela Merkel in a narrow election defeat in 2005.

Just weeks after leaving office, however, he started overseeing the implementation of the project for Gazprom.

Schroeder took up position as head of Nord Stream AG's shareholder committee and has worked for the gas behemoth ever since.

The former politician is rumoured to have been paid millions by Gazprom and is set to pocket even more with the announcement of the second phase of the Nord Stream project.



Allies....?



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Edited by W A Mozart, Jul 11 2018, 11:45 AM.
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And, ...and, this article caught my attention:

..."Trump is more popular than most NATO country leaders (who think they’re better than he is)." ....
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/07/11/trump-is-more-popular-than-most-nato-country-leaders-who-think-re-better-than-is.html

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America is a nation obsessed with political approval ratings like no other. But the U.S. media seems ignorant to the fact that President Trump is currently one of the most popular leaders of a major Western nation in the world today.

Guffaw if you like, but those who are both regarded and regard themselves as “better” leaders have lower numbers than the American president — and while his are trending up, some of theirs are in free fall.

When Barack Obama left the world stage, having commanded a mid-40s average approval rating over the course of his presidency, the New York Times declared German Chancellor Angela Merkel to be the liberal West’s “last defender.”

Less than two years later, after an election upset and an ensuing struggle to form a government, Merkel is horribly bruised and close to being ousted by her coalition partners in Germany. Both for having encouraged mass inward migration to her country, and failing to come up with a solution once the Germans figured out it wasn’t working for them.

More to the point, her approval rating stinks.


Approval ratings.

- Trump: 47%
- May: 35%
- Trudeau: 35%
- Macron: 32%

:booboo:


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Edited by W A Mozart, Jul 11 2018, 11:54 AM.
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Jul 11 2018, 11:43 AM


Allies....?



Mozart
Exactly...

EU and Western European countries continue to pretend they’re post WW2 victims, sucking up all the goodies they can based on sympathies for events which happened over 70 years ago......

Like 30+ year olds who can’t/won’t make their way in the world and who begrudgingly depend on their parents’ misplaced kindness for all expenses yet they go out and party on their parents’ dime, these countries think they can ignore their mounting defense bills and use this money for their own desires.


President Trump is the parent telling the adult kid to grow up and pay their share.


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Trump: “Now, if you look at it, Germany is a captive of Russia (….) They got rid of their coal plants. They got rid of their nuclear. They’re getting so much of the oil and gas from Russia.(….) it certainly doesn’t seem to make sense that they paid billions of dollars to Russia and now we have to defend them against Russia.”

Merkel: But, but but – Paris Climate Accord!

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Edited by clone, Jul 11 2018, 12:08 PM.
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I am Sorry, but the Daily Mail and Donald Duck are wrong.

Mail reinterprets the statistics to support Donald's false statements.

If you want to argue about this, please check the data and definitions provided by the Mail first.
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Jul 11 2018, 07:37 AM
I don't recall the EU appreciating the USA for the Marshall Plan by making an attempt to pay us back...Don't expect Trump to conduct a worldwide "apology tour" like that punk Obama................ :confused:
The Marshall Plan was about protecting the US economy - it was a waste of time having undamaged, fully function factories if there was no-one to sell it to, so the US got the European economy back on its feet so that there would be a market. The US knew that if Europe couldn't get back off its feet, the Soviets would have had an easy job taking it over, leaving the US with no European allies or market for US goods.

In other words, the M.P. was not a Christmas present; it was about preventing the US economy from nose diving in a 1930s style.

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