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Brazil judge blocks Lula appointment to government
Topic Started: Mar 18 2016, 02:03 PM (3,195 Views)
Robert Stout
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Government corruption is endemic in South America....The only solution is to kill all of the politicians in South America.............. :hooray:
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Some further thoughts on the downfall of Dilma Rouseff...

From the outset it should be made very clear that Dilma Roussef was NOT thrown-out of office because of personal corruption. She did not stuff her ample purse with wads of 100 dollar bills, at least there's been no evidence of this having taken place. However, she did preside over a very corrupt government (1), and prior to that, a very corrupt Petrobras (2). First, the money stolen through corruption at Petrobras was enormous, through-the-roof. Dilma could NOT have but known what was taking place. She was in charge. This woman, with very little petroleum experience, was the CEO of Petrobras. Really. Hard to believe. She looked the other way because a lot of that corruption at Petrobras went to the coffers of her political party. The party. A cult. A religion. We won, you lost, ...the rest of you can suck eggs. The same held true when she succeeded Lula to the Presidency of Brasil. Corruption. Mismanaged accounts. Incredible amounts of money lost and stolen. Just plain stupidity.

I, however, would have voted to throw Dilma out on another charge, ...hypocrisy. Dilma rose through the political ranks because she was a committed revolutionary in her early days. She was captured, and tortured. A terrible thing. But, when she achieved political power, her sense of right and wrong went out the window. She was a committed Chavista, friends of Hugo Chavez. NOT once did she publicly complain, or make her concerns known to others, about the very real torture of Judge Afiuni (and others), held in Chavez's prison cell. A clear case of human rights violations. To Dilma, her party came first. Look the other way. You don't attack your religion, no matter what. The same with Leopold Lopez, currently sitting in a Chavista jail cell. Silence. No comments. No words of support from a fellow political prisoner. Hypocrisy. Throw her fat a$$ out on hypocrisy....


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They left a path of destruction throughout South America.



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Apr 12 2016, 08:14 AM
W A Mozart
Apr 11 2016, 07:51 PM
Brazil impeachment: Vote deals new blow to Rousseff

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Brazil's President Dilma Rousseff has suffered a blow to her hopes of staving off impeachment proceedings, after a committee voted they should go ahead.
The 65-member congressional committee voted 38 to 27 to recommend impeachment over claims she manipulated government accounts to hide a growing deficit.
All eyes will now be on a full vote in the lower house on 17 or 18 April.
The issue has divided Brazil, with police preparing for mass protests in the capital, Brasilia.



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She wont get impeached, the votes aren't there
:rotflmao: any ideas on the powerball numbers?
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jake58
Apr 18 2016, 05:33 PM
Attaburnsinhell
Apr 12 2016, 08:14 AM
W A Mozart
Apr 11 2016, 07:51 PM
Brazil impeachment: Vote deals new blow to Rousseff


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Mozart
She wont get impeached, the votes aren't there
:rotflmao: any ideas on the powerball numbers?
Attaburnsinhell has unique qualifications in knowing Brazil................... :spank:
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Robert Stout
Apr 18 2016, 05:45 PM
jake58
Apr 18 2016, 05:33 PM
Attaburnsinhell
Apr 12 2016, 08:14 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepBrazil impeachment: Vote deals new blow to Rousseff


Quoting limited to 3 levels deephttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE
:rotflmao: any ideas on the powerball numbers?
Attaburnsinhell has unique qualifications in knowing Brazil................... :spank:
Yes, silly me believing they wouldn't be so stupid as to go ahead and do this, but they seemed to have exceeded my expectations

So let's sum up what happened

A congress of deputees, over 2/3 of them either under investigation for corruption, one even convicted in abstentia in Europe for embezzelment, voted to annul an election of a president, though inept, isn't up on any actual charges of corruption. Now she is going to be replaced by Temer, from the PSDB, a party with MORE members under investigation than Dilma's party PT, himself being one of them, but because he is, he is about to be indicted, so third in line in Cunha

Cunha is also under investigation and very possible indictment for lying under oath when asked if he had a secret back account in Switzerland (he does) and when asked where the $5 million in his account came from, he answered he didn't know, someone just put it there. He's since been named in the Panama papers

But Cunha may be granted AMNESTY from all his charges if his party gets their way as a reward for setting up the impeachment of Dilma!

So the party that kept losing presidential election for years got to vote themselves into power, which will allow them get out of jail free cards, it is expected that the investigations will now go away. They get to keep their embezzeled cash, face no punishment and assend to power. Who says crime doesn't pay?

Meanwhile the Brazillian public was treated to a televised circus of total buffoonery by their deputees, all who had to make a speech while casting their votes. Shoving matches, one guy, Bolsonaro, aka the Trump of Brasil, announced he cast his vote in the name of the general who led the coup in 1964, who personally tortured Dilma, one of those tortures included shoving live rats into her virgina. That was followed by the PT member, the only open gay member of congress, running up and spitting in Bolsonaro's face on live TV. Another scene was a wife of a deputy who was casting his vote for him, because he couldnt be there due to his being arrested for corruption.

IOW Brazil just decided to replace it's democracy with a Kleptocracy.
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All three have extensive lists of charges against them
Those in line for Brazilian presidency accused of corruption
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BRASILIA — The impeachment proceedings against Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff have put a spotlight on endemic corruption in the ranks of lawmakers. Some 60 percent of the 594 legislators in both chambers of Congress are being investigated for wrongdoing or are facing corruption charges, according to watchdog groups. Many of the investigations are related to a kickback scheme at state oil company Petrobras. The three men in line to replace Rousseff if she is impeached are themselves being investigated.
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So, what is that socialists/communists do when they are no longer loved by their people? Screaming, "Coup d'etat! ...Coup d'etat!" doesn't seem to have helped. It comes from the Chavista play book. Any threat to a socialists RIGHT to govern is met with announcements of an impending CIA plot, and shouts of "Coup d'etat...!" Didn't work. Didn't help. Maduro in Venezuela is tring the same tactic. After all these were the elected legislators of Brasil who partook in that vote and are, after all, Brasilians. So, what to do?

If you're Dilma Ding-a-ling your answer to suddenly losing all of your personal political power is to go to that bastion of slobbering dolts, an edifice along the East River filled with half-baked screwballs of every sort, ... the United Nations. A similar lunatic asylum from which Dilma orginiated. "They will save me! They will come to my rescue!"


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Brazilian president begs UN for help as she faces being forced from power in 'coup d'état without weapons' just months before country hosts the Olympic Games
Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff has flown to New York to address UN
Could be forced from office in weeks if attempts to impeach her succeed
President has described the process as a 'coup d'état without weapons'
The crisis is unfolding four months before Brazil hosts the Olympic Games


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3550670/Brazils-Rousseff-going-U-N-impeachment-cabinet-crisis.html#ixzz46SqeDtXT


Yup, ole chubby Dilma is "top-of-the-heap" at the United Nations. It's off to New York....!

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Nixon didn't plead to the UN...He worked a deal to resign to avoid impeachment and to get immunity from prosecution....South American politicians are not clever............... :dunno:
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Oooops!

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Edited by W A Mozart, Apr 21 2016, 01:43 PM.
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After Vote to Remove Brazil’s President, Key Opposition Figure Holds Meetings in Washington
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Glenn Greenwald, Andrew Fishman, David Miranda
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Is the U.S. Backing Rousseff's Ouster in Brazil? Opposition Holds Talks in D.C. as Obama Stays Quiet
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APRIL 20, 2016 / STORY

On Sunday, Brazil’s lower house of Congress voted 367 to 137 to start impeachment proceedings against President Dilma Rousseff. Early next month, Brazil’s Senate will vote on whether to put Rousseff on trial on allegations of manipulating budget accounts. On Tuesday, Rousseff said attempts to impeach her constituted a "coup" and an "original sin." Brazil has been engulfed in a major corruption scandal, but Dilma Rousseff herself has not been accused of any financial impropriety. However, 318 members of the Brazilian Congress, including many who backed her impeachment, are under investigation or face charges. Leading the impeachment process has been Brazil’s Speaker of the House Eduardo Cunha, who has been accused of squirreling away $5 million into Swiss bank accounts.
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Brazil crisis: Rousseff may appeal to trade bloc over impeachment
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Brazil's President Dilma Rousseff has said she could ask the South American trade bloc Mercosur to suspend the country if she is removed from office.

Ms Rousseff has repeatedly described the impeachment process as a political coup by her rivals to oust her.
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UNASUR: No Proof Against Dilma Rousseff Is Highly Concerning
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UNASUR's secretary-general said the region should be concerned that there is no proof of wrongdoing against Dilma Rousseff.
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The head of UNASUR, Ernesto Samper, said the whole region is deeply concerned with the political crisis in Brazil. | Photo: teleSUR / Carla Gonzalez

5 Mainstream Media Outlets Calling out the Power Grab in Brazil
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International media outlets are increasingly raising key questions about the motives behind the impeachment bid against Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff.
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To See the Real Story in Brazil, Look at Who Is Being Installed as President — and Finance Chiefs
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Glenn Greenwald
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So to summarize: Brazilian financial and media elites are pretending that corruption is the reason for removing the twice-elected president of the country as they conspire to install and empower the country’s most corrupted political figures. Brazilian oligarchs will have succeeded in removing from power a moderately left-wing government that won four straight elections in the name of representing the country’s poor, and are literally handing control over the Brazilian economy (the world’s seventh largest) to Goldman Sachs and bank industry lobbyists.

This fraud being perpetrated here is as blatant as it is devastating. But it’s the same pattern that has been repeatedly seen around the world, particularly in Latin America, when a tiny elite wages a self-protective, self-serving war on the fundamentals of democracy. Brazil, the world’s fifth most populous country, has been an inspiring example of how a young democracy can mature and thrive. But now, those democratic institutions and principles are being fully assaulted by the very same financial and media factions that suppressed democracy and imposed tyranny in that country for decades.
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this is why she was impeached

Brazil President’s Approval Rating Remains Near All-Time Low

Just 11% of respondents approve of Dilma Rousseff in poll

http://www.wsj.com/articles/brazil-presidents-approval-rating-remains-near-all-time-low-1456663882

poor che, no one wants his leftists
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this is why she was impeached

Brazil President’s Approval Rating Remains Near All-Time Low

Just 11% of respondents approve of Dilma Rousseff in poll

http://www.wsj.com/articles/brazil-presidents-approval-rating-remains-near-all-time-low-1456663882

poor che, no one wants his leftists
Low approval numbers means the person won't be re-elected, it's not a basis for impeachment. If that were the case, every US President would be impeached when they fall below 50% approval

The two groups favoring impeachment are those who can't get power through the election process, and those who are pissed that the economy is in a slump. It has zero to do with corruption or illegal activity on her part, she's just an inept leader. In fact, throwing her out would mean they replaced one of the few uncorrupted politicians and replace her with a bunch of criminally corrupt politicians

Having been down here for a few years has taught me that Brasillians are not the sharpest knives in the drawer, and they're not particularly honest or trustworthy. Corruption is in their nature. They prefer competent corruption over incompetent honesty
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Apr 25 2016, 07:46 AM
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this is why she was impeached

Brazil President’s Approval Rating Remains Near All-Time Low

Just 11% of respondents approve of Dilma Rousseff in poll

http://www.wsj.com/articles/brazil-presidents-approval-rating-remains-near-all-time-low-1456663882

poor che, no one wants his leftists
Low approval numbers means the person won't be re-elected, it's not a basis for impeachment. If that were the case, every US President would be impeached when they fall below 50% approval

The two groups favoring impeachment are those who can't get power through the election process, and those who are pissed that the economy is in a slump. It has zero to do with corruption or illegal activity on her part, she's just an inept leader. In fact, throwing her out would mean they replaced one of the few uncorrupted politicians and replace her with a bunch of criminally corrupt politicians

Having been down here for a few years has taught me that Brasillians are not the sharpest knives in the drawer, and they're not particularly honest or trustworthy. Corruption is in their nature. They prefer competent corruption over incompetent honesty
The reason for her unpopularity is somewhat relevant to the impeachment proceedings and there is a good deal of smoke here, whether it's because, as you say, that she is incompetent or the investigation into her campaign irregularities or the fact that she was the Minister of Energy and sat on the Petrobras Board of Directors while tens of millions in graft was being dispensed... and no, most of the public doesn't believe she knew nothing of the scandal.

Saying that everyone is corrupt is not an excuse for corruption, take them down, all of them.
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Saying that everyone is corrupt is not an excuse for corruption, take them down, all of them.
Yes, well... good luck with that:
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When Romero asked Temer about his posture toward Cunha once he takes power, this is how Temer responded:


  • Mr. Temer defended himself and top allies who are under a cloud of accusations in the scheme. He expressed support for Eduardo Cunha, the scandal-plagued speaker of the lower house who is leading the impeachment effort in Congress, saying he would not ask Mr. Cunha to resign. Mr. Cunha will be the next in line for the presidency if Mr. Temer takes over.


Oh, by the way: going to the war in Irak, under false pretenses, with gigantic loses of blood and treasure (bah: transfer from the general public to a few concentrated pockets, really), is corruption, too.

I don't remember you calling for the Chimp's impeachment, you know... :cool:
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Brazil Senate Begins Impeachment Process Against Rousseff
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A senatorial committee is now reviewing the impeachment request before passing it on to the larger Senate for a simple majority vote.
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Majority of Brazilians Don't Want Temer as President: Poll
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A mere eight percent of Brazilians believe a Temer government would resolve the crisis, the poll found.
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Pepe Mujica Slams 'Painful' Rousseff Impeachment Process
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Mujica warned the lawmakers at the top of Brazil's political system, saying they would not determine the political fate of the country.
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Leader of Brazil Impeachment Process Faces New Corruption Probe
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Eduardo Cunha already has three investigations open against him and was exposed in the Panama Papers leak on tax havens.
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President of the Chamber of Deputies Cunha addresses the audienc during a session to review the request for Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff's impeachment. | Photo: Reuters
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Meeting in Brasilia
Pérez Esquivel calls Rousseff impeachment process ‘soft coup’
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Argentine Nobel Peace Prize winner and human rights activist Adolfo Pérez Esquivel met with Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff yesterday to express his solidarity and called the impeachment process against her an example of a “soft coup.”

Rousseff welcomed Pérez Esquivel in her presidential office in Planalto, Brasilia, and he later briefly addressed the Senate before which he denounced the impeachment efforts as a “possible coup d’état” similar to the cases of Honduras and Paraguay.
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Nobel Peace Prize Winner Adolfo Pérez Esquivel meets with Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff in Brasilia yesterday.

Nobel Peace Prize Winner Warns Brazil's Senators Against 'Coup'
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Opposition senators asked the stenographers to remove Adolfo Perez Esquivel's speech, upset that he mentioned the word "coup d'etat".
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Adolfo Perez Esquivel in the Brazilian Senate Thursday. | Photo: @PrensaPEsquivel

NYT Photographer Mauricio Lima, 2016 Pulitzer Winner, Denounces Globo and the “Coup” in Brazil
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Glenn Greenwald

Apr. 29 2016, 9:12 a.m
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Brazil crisis: Rousseff tells BBC she will fight on
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Brazil's beleaguered President Dilma Rousseff has told the BBC she is an "innocent victim" and she will fight on as possible impeachment looms.

She vowed to "keep fighting... to come back to government if the impeachment request is accepted".
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Brazil Supreme Court removes lower house speaker Cunha
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Brazil's Supreme Court removed the speaker of the lower house of Congress on Thursday on charges of obstructing a corruption investigation, days before an impeachment process that he engineered was expected to oust President Dilma Rousseff.

The removal of Eduardo Cunha, a bitter rival of Rousseff and one of Brazil's most divisive public figures, was the latest in a series of political earthquakes in South America's largest country as it struggles with a sweeping corruption scandal and the worst recession in decades.
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An evangelical Christian with strong support from the religious right in Congress, Cunha has for months fended off ethics committee hearings in the lower house about whether he lied about the accounts, using every trick in the procedural book.
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President of the Chamber of Deputies Eduardo Cunha observes congressmen, who support the impeachment, demonstrate during a session to review the request for Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff's impeachment, at the Chamber of Deputies in Brasilia, Brazil April 16, 2016. The placards read "Bye Dear". REUTERS/Ueslei Marcelino


Brazil politics: Dilma Rousseff the fighter battles on
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Wyre Davies
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Although I'd met the Brazilian president on a couple of previous occasions, including a very agreeable dinner for foreign correspondents at the Alvorada Palace, her official residence, I'd almost given up hope on a one-to-one interview with Dilma Rousseff.
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Brazil senate committee backs Dilma Rousseff trial
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A senate committee in Brazil has recommended that President Dilma Rousseff should face an impeachment trial for breaking budget laws.

The full senate will now vote next week on whether the trial should proceed.

If as expected the vote goes against her, Ms Rousseff will be instantly suspended for up to six months and replaced by the vice-president.

She has denied any wrongdoing, and described the impeachment procedure as a coup attempt by political enemies.
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The result of the committee's vote was closely watched by Brazilians
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Brazilian politicians are the result of the zika virus............. :confused:
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