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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 23 2016, 12:57 PM (2,219 Views) | |
| estonianman | Mar 23 2016, 03:48 PM Post #21 |
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| OffensivelyOpenMinded | Mar 23 2016, 04:02 PM Post #22 |
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He might even be convinced to privatize the railroads. Wouldn't be a bad idea in my opinion. |
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"The problem with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and putting things in it." Terry Pratchett | |
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| Coast2coast | Mar 23 2016, 04:02 PM Post #23 |
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There is no responsible way to vote for Mr. Trump. |
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| OffensivelyOpenMinded | Mar 23 2016, 04:05 PM Post #24 |
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In your opinion. |
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"The problem with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and putting things in it." Terry Pratchett | |
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| Coast2coast | Mar 23 2016, 04:06 PM Post #25 |
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Voting is a responsibility and an adult course of action. Some can handle neither and will offer any excuse they can for their abdication. |
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| OffensivelyOpenMinded | Mar 23 2016, 04:08 PM Post #26 |
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It is a necessity since we are dealing with a weaponized government that is used to oppress whichever group isn't in power at the time. |
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"The problem with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and putting things in it." Terry Pratchett | |
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| Coast2coast | Mar 23 2016, 04:09 PM Post #27 |
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I don't subscribe to the Right Wing mantra of total paranoia over Government. |
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| BuckFan | Mar 23 2016, 04:11 PM Post #28 |
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Oh God, no they didn't. As I've been trying to explain to the Bernie-Bros on the Dem board, the government is bigger than one person, even if that person is President of the United States. Our government is not going to allow one person to make major changes. It just won't happen. Trump, like Obama and everyone else will get leveled by Congress. The Dems will block radical change by a Republican and vice versa. After the last 8 years it will be even worse. Even if Congress goes along with the President, radical change will still get tied up in courts. That is how our Founding Fathers designed the system, so we cannot have a despot or emperor (regardless of what Rightie radio says). A President can do immediate damage but it usually short term and corrected by the next guy. |
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| OffensivelyOpenMinded | Mar 23 2016, 04:12 PM Post #29 |
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It's not paranoia, that is exactly what it is. Government is force by definition. |
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"The problem with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and putting things in it." Terry Pratchett | |
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| OffensivelyOpenMinded | Mar 23 2016, 04:14 PM Post #30 |
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Any political debate or discussion of government and democracy is a debate or discussion of violence. You are having a debate or discussion about who the guys with the guns should get to point their guns at for your perceived benefit. If you can refute that, I would like to see you do it. |
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"The problem with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and putting things in it." Terry Pratchett | |
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| Coast2coast | Mar 23 2016, 04:18 PM Post #31 |
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If you believe that then you are among the paranoid. Are you? |
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| OffensivelyOpenMinded | Mar 23 2016, 04:20 PM Post #32 |
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Can you refute the statement I made in the post you skipped? Are you paranoid you might not be able to and winde up having to abandon your infantile leftist view of government as some force for good ? Edited by OffensivelyOpenMinded, Mar 23 2016, 04:21 PM.
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"The problem with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and putting things in it." Terry Pratchett | |
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| OffensivelyOpenMinded | Mar 23 2016, 04:23 PM Post #33 |
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If I can save one life from a future Pinochet Helicopter Tour through education, I will have done a very positive thing for society. |
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"The problem with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and putting things in it." Terry Pratchett | |
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| estonianman | Mar 23 2016, 04:23 PM Post #34 |
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Some admit that it is a necessary evil - you just avoid reality like a flat earther. Amazing. You have to assimilate yourself into the government template, or else risk jail or death. Millions of people deal with this reality daily. |
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| thoughtless | Mar 23 2016, 04:24 PM Post #35 |
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I've always thought that anybody that doesn't bother to vote, shouldn't bitch about the government. I always vote, because I like to bitch about the government. |
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| estonianman | Mar 23 2016, 04:25 PM Post #36 |
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So are you saying that children, felons and immigrants are not allowed to bitch about government? |
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| Coast2coast | Mar 23 2016, 04:33 PM Post #37 |
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Refute it? It's an example of paranoia at it's highest. If you are that worried about your government than you have lost all faith in your entire nation's core and Constitution. Vigilance is one thing as is the "Right to Petition for Redress of Grievances". A belief that 'they' are going to come gunning for you at their whim is quite another and a very powerless position. |
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| OffensivelyOpenMinded | Mar 23 2016, 04:34 PM Post #38 |
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How does the government enforce laws? If you decide you don't want to pay taxes, what happens? Edited by OffensivelyOpenMinded, Mar 23 2016, 04:35 PM.
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"The problem with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and putting things in it." Terry Pratchett | |
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| Coast2coast | Mar 23 2016, 04:34 PM Post #39 |
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Vigilance is a good thing. Paranoia is not. |
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| Coast2coast | Mar 23 2016, 04:40 PM Post #40 |
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By a system of laws and regulations as befits a civilized society. It does not rely on the gun unless those acting in opposition to the law are in violent or obtuse opposition of that law at which time we as a society have addressed the issue by charging a select group to enforce it on our behalf. |
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