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| It's time to talk about 'black privilege'; "In America you can't even talk about whiteness," | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 1 2016, 04:18 PM (1,505 Views) | |
| Member013 | Apr 3 2016, 03:08 PM Post #21 |
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What great advantages do Blacks have? They get to call each other the n word? |
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| Robert Stout | Apr 3 2016, 03:18 PM Post #22 |
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| Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid | |
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| Tsalagi | Apr 3 2016, 03:32 PM Post #23 |
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How do you know this...the Tsalagi emigrated down into the south over 11,000 years, and spent another 3000 years in the Southeastern US, we had a pretty much defined area...Western North Carolina, Northern Georgia, Southern Kentucky, most of Tennessee and Eastern Arkansas. Granted that interwoven within those borders were subsets like the Chickamauga, or competing tribes like the Lumbee, the Choctaw, and the Creek, but the borders pretty much ran along natural barriers, rivers, streams, mountain ridges..etc... Did you expect a map with title and registration provided |
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| Opinionated | Apr 3 2016, 04:54 PM Post #24 |
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I've never heard of you claiming your apartment as yours so, given your logic, if I move in and change the locks, you have no room to bitch. |
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| Opinionated | Apr 3 2016, 04:58 PM Post #25 |
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You know T1, I can really understand how some Native Americans might really, really dislike the white man. Some of us are either stupid as hell or just very, very disingenuous. Justifying the taking of Native land because they didn't "declare" it as their land? Maybe the killing of those who trespassed without permission might have been a clue? Does anyone really believe that the white man just wandered in and set up camp because he just had NO IDEA that the Natives claimed the land as their own? Makes a man want to pound his head against a wall, it's so stupid. |
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| Robert Stout | Apr 3 2016, 05:08 PM Post #26 |
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The Cherokee were in a state of constant warfare with other tribes over land possession...The whites eventually settled the matter and brought peace between the tribes..........
Edited by Robert Stout, Apr 3 2016, 05:10 PM.
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| Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid | |
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| Drudge X | Apr 3 2016, 09:00 PM Post #27 |
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I have documentation. I pay fees to the owner. So what part or how much land should we return to the Indian tribes? Second, humanity has been fighting among each other since the dawn of humanity over land and land dispute. Accordig to you, everyone who is alive today carries guilt because of their ancestors, right? |
| Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind. | |
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| Opinionated | Apr 3 2016, 10:57 PM Post #28 |
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I don't recognize your ownership because it doesn't match the requirements I have for establishing ownership. So sorry, you lose. |
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| Tsalagi | Apr 3 2016, 11:36 PM Post #29 |
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There are some on here who have called my people "obsolete", others like PA who have stated we should give up all pretext of sovereignity and become fully integrated as an American subculture. Here's the rub OP...the Snyder Act gave full US citizenship to Native Americans, some would say to repay our selfless acts of loyalty in WW1 towards the US, others to placate us, that to give us full citizenship it nullifies our desires to remain sovereign and apart. But you see, no one ever asked us if we wanted to BE American citizens. They did it, because some thought it was right I'm guessing...but Blacks of today, they are told to "suck it up, you were never a slave"...and while this is true...they're only one 1 maybe 2 generations away from being thought of as second class citizens. There are some who believe that a mere 50 years of somewhat true citizenship makes up for 350 years of slavery and oppression.. The concept of whites privilege didn't occur overnite, it was centuries in the making, a subconscious for the most part, but there were definite moments when it was the Law of the land, a deliberate attempt to give the upper edge to whites in deference to minorities. My family lodge has a prescious written diary of an ancestor that walked the Trail, it's behind a vacuum sealed glass box of course, but every time I look at it...I am reminded that there was a time when we were thought of the same as blacks do now. |
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| Drudge X | Apr 4 2016, 01:31 AM Post #30 |
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The police will gladly remove you for trespassing. |
| Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind. | |
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| Drudge X | Apr 4 2016, 01:36 AM Post #31 |
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Sheessh.. playing the victim again. Every race has the right to gain privilege for themselves. White and Asian privileges didn't occur overnight as you mention. It happened in centuries and millennium in the making. Why? Because these people believe in bettering themselves through innovation and trial and error, not sit around getting left behind and conveniently blaming the other races. |
| Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind. | |
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| Robert Stout | Apr 4 2016, 02:27 AM Post #32 |
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Marcus Garvey tried to convince blacks to regain their sovereignty...Blacks eventually decided that the benefits of even second class citizenship were better than the prospect of spearing lions.................
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| Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid | |
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| Opinionated | Apr 4 2016, 07:25 AM Post #33 |
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Not if I have a bigger, more technologically advanced army ready to intervene and decimate the police should they interfere. |
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| Drudge X | Apr 4 2016, 09:14 AM Post #34 |
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So you are pro securing our borders and increase military spending? |
| Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind. | |
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| Two a.m. | Apr 4 2016, 09:50 AM Post #35 |
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I would say they have a freedom to speak about issues of race without having to worry constantly that what they say may be misinterpreted or construed as racist. Chris Rock can say things that would instantly ruin a white person's career. Also, practically speaking, a white employer has to be far more careful in how he interviews a black applicant or fires a black employee than vice-versa. White victims of police brutality are far less likely to garner media attention than black victims. In fact, I've literally had people on here contend that there are no white victims of police brutality. Whites live in pretty much constant fear of being accused of racism - even when they aren't racist and their actions have justifiable reason. Blacks don't have that fear and can speak far more freely. In certain instances, being black can also be a help to your career (although this varies quite a bit). But a completely unqualified guy like Clarence Thomas doesn't get appointed to the Supreme Court unless he's replacing a black appointee. In fact, being black and conservative is a huge career builder. Michael Steele was hideously unqualified to be appointed head of the RNC. Then there is Herman Cain, Ben Carson, etc. Of course, being black can also hurt you substantially. While some employers might be more eager to hire you to show their diversity, others might be less so. While complaints of ill treatment by police might be taken more seriously, ill treatment is also more likely to happen. Media images continue to remain stereotypical and cause lower self-esteem in black kids than in white ones. Black folks continue to face inequalities serious enough that it is clear that being white is an overall a greater advantage in our society. Edited by Two a.m., Apr 4 2016, 09:52 AM.
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| "The stars can be near or distant, according as we need them." - George Orwell, 1984 | |
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| edro14 | Apr 4 2016, 10:05 AM Post #36 |
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Stop putting people down because they are brown Robert! |
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| Opinionated | Apr 4 2016, 10:27 AM Post #37 |
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To summarize. Sometimes in our society being black can work in your favor. Usually it works in your disfavor. Sometimes being white can work in your disfavor. Usually it works in your favor. |
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| Tsalagi | Apr 4 2016, 11:34 AM Post #38 |
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Where in that statement did I play anything of being a victim? Every human being has an individual right to gain privilege, you do not have the right to propel one entire spectrum of people over another...sorry, you don't...whites only did it because they had all the power, money, and capability. Asians did it by being an insular race that had it not been for Commodore Perry, the Japanese would still have an Emperor, the Chinese would still have the Ming dynasty ruling them... We didn't get left behind, we got steamrolled over...blacks didn't get left behind, they were forced to the back of the bus. |
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| Demagogue | Apr 4 2016, 12:15 PM Post #39 |
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It is an interesting concept. From the article
So, Ms. Foster believes that the fact that a fast food owner blamed the laziness of her black friends upon their race to be proof of concept for white privileged. She believes that the fact that a shop owner accuses her black friends and not her of thievery to be more proof. Lastly she thinks getting put in the gifted program was because she was white. Here is the thing she evidently does not understand. If she (as a white person) has an attendance problem at work the fast food restaurant owner will simply consider her a worthless piece of shit and fire her. Because she is white, there will be zero chance that the fast food chain will be accused of racism for firing a bad worker. So who has the privilege here? The white worker who can be fired for even the slightest absenteeism or the black worker who just about has to commit a criminal act to be fired? Now lets discuss the gifted program in school. They don't put you in the gifted program because you have perfect attendance. They give you a little ribbon for perfect attendance. You get into the gifted program because you are gifted. I was in the "gifted" program in school. Ms. Foster would probably be shocked to learn that about 10% of the kids in that program were black despite the fact that we were in a community that only had about 8% African american population. Those kids were in the gifted program with me because they passed the tests like I did and were smart kids. How often you made it to school had nothing to do with the gifted program. Just as I, as a 5'11" white kid who was built like a linebacker and could not shoot a hoop to save my life, was never going to be on the basketball team, the average IQ kids who were 6'5" tall and could dunk were not going to be in gifted with me. One of the black kids in gifted with me was on the basketball team, he was tall, could shoot, AND was smart. Lastly let's discuss her thoughts that not being accused of thievery shows white privilege. If you constantly beat a dog, whenever you or someone who resembles or smells like you comes near the dog it will cower expecting a blow. A shop owner who gets robbed regularly by one particular race will naturally assume that people of that race are more likely to be a problem. If we were to take a black kid from the US and fly him to a bad neighborhood in Norway and send him to a shop that has patrons who regularly take five finger discounts he would not be suspected of being a thief on site. The people the shop owner expected to be thieves would be the locals who normally are a problem for him. In Norway those individuals will be white. The black kid will be nothing more than a curiosity in that community. To bring that example to the USA if we take some black kid from Atlanta and put him in a Texas or Arizona border town where nearly all the crime is committed by people of Hispanic decent, the black kid won't be an immediate suspect when he enters the store. His Hispanic classmates will be. Is the black kid now suffering from white privilege or is it just a product of him not being one of the "usual suspects" who rob the store? Edited by Demagogue, Apr 4 2016, 12:38 PM.
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| People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on those who would do them harm. | |
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| Robert Stout | Apr 4 2016, 02:54 PM Post #40 |
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I feel fortunate for the white privilege I now have...My family was so poor that when I brought a stray dog home to be my pet, the family ate it...Black guys would give me some of their lunch money at grade school....Because of our poverty, Mexicans would do our lawn for free...We were allowed to do the dishes after we ate at the Chinese buffet...I went to college on financial aid for the disadvantaged....I joined the Boy Scouts because my family could not afford the military school that Trump to....I became an altar boy for access to free wine....Later, I was turned down for subsidized housing because I was married.... However I am so ashamed... I have white guilt and I'm working on getting a deep tan to be politically correct...Yet someday our society may get over this endemic neurosis..........
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