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"It is good that there are food lines. [In regard to communist countries]" -Bernie Sanders; lol
Topic Started: Apr 2 2016, 12:59 PM (2,195 Views)
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estonianman
Apr 3 2016, 09:36 PM
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estonianman
Apr 3 2016, 08:23 PM

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Thanks to capitalism, bread is laced with round up.
Not my bread.

You should learn to read the label, or go low carb.
Since GMO's have lobbied so hard against labels,
You won't find round up or round up resistant
wheat on the label. So...no. Fail.

The only chance you have is to buy Gluten Free bread.
When it comes to lying, cheating, or stealing, consult your DNC or GOP handbook.
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Apr 4 2016, 12:07 AM
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Apr 3 2016, 09:54 PM
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Apr 3 2016, 08:23 PM

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Denmark is a Bernie Sanders style social democracy

Glad you're waking up

Attanomics :nana:
So bread in denmark is provided by state distribution centers?
No, there are no bread lines in Denmark. Just go to the market for bread like here. Except we do have food banks,
and they don't need them. Everyone has enough money
there, to buy basic food supplies.

(And, they actually do have capitalism there, just not unfettered, unregulated, capitalism like here. Or, as I
like to refer to it, "Vulture Capitalism").
When it comes to lying, cheating, or stealing, consult your DNC or GOP handbook.
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Apr 3 2016, 09:54 PM

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So bread in denmark is provided by state distribution centers?
No, there are no bread lines in Denmark. Just go to the market for bread like here. Except we do have food banks,
and they don't need them. Everyone has enough money
there, to buy basic food supplies.

(And, they actually do have capitalism there, just not unfettered, unregulated, capitalism like here. Or, as I
like to refer to it, "Vulture Capitalism").
Of course there isn't. Because Denmark is getting fed despite its socialist government.
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Not my bread.

You should learn to read the label, or go low carb.
Since GMO's have lobbied so hard against labels,
You won't find round up or round up resistant
wheat on the label. So...no. Fail.

The only chance you have is to buy Gluten Free bread.
wtf. seriously.

I thought we had a large bureaucracy that was supposed to weed out this mess.

No?
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So how many leftists here used to live under communist rule? My guess is the biggest communist advocates here have zero experience.
Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind.
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Make your own bread and stop waiting for a handout mr. esto!
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Apr 4 2016, 03:10 AM
Gizmolove
Apr 4 2016, 12:36 AM
estonianman
Apr 4 2016, 12:07 AM

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No, there are no bread lines in Denmark. Just go to the market for bread like here. Except we do have food banks,
and they don't need them. Everyone has enough money
there, to buy basic food supplies.

(And, they actually do have capitalism there, just not unfettered, unregulated, capitalism like here. Or, as I
like to refer to it, "Vulture Capitalism").
Of course there isn't. Because Denmark is getting fed despite its socialist government.
I see thats become your usual excuse as to why social democratic governments are so successful in meeting the basic needs of it's citizens while still having a profitable, robust economy. It happens ''despite'' them being ''socialist''

The reality you dont like to face is one they are not socialist countries, but rather what's known as a mixed economy, where the private sector is allowed a lot of freedom, while part of those profits go to social needs that actually benefit the private sector

These people don't consider themselves slaves, they actually see the advantages of having a mixed economy by living within it. Even whats considered conservative parties there have no urge to undo these systems
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I see thats become your usual excuse as to why social democratic governments are so successful in meeting the basic needs of it's citizens while still having a profitable, robust economy. It happens ''despite'' them being ''socialist''

It's absolutely true. If you look at the government sectors of most economies, they are inefficient and deep in debt. The only countries that are prosperous are the ones that enjoy economic liberty, not the other way around.

The reality you dont like to face is one they are not socialist countries, but rather what's known as a mixed economy, where the private sector is allowed a lot of freedom, while part of those profits go to social needs that actually benefit the private sector

You contradicted yourself in this statement. What you just said was economies thrive when the economies are free. Seems to imply an imbalance in the "mixed economy theory"

These people don't consider themselves slaves, they actually see the advantages of having a mixed economy by living within it. Even whats considered conservative parties there have no urge to undo these systems

Meh. I guess they live an okay life, below my standards to be honest. I find this chart interesting though:

Anti-depressent use

The other issue with your statement is that the state benefits don't seem to exist as much anymore. The Danish state has been slashing its budget over the last few years to cut deficits. Why is that atta - are they not taxed enough?

But wait - It also has a 25% sales tax to pay for that shit, which is the highest in the EU. And the highest income taxes in the world. Of course, those taxes haven't been reduced even as the government starts taking away the nice things the people paid for. Let's see how happy people are when they no longer get "free" stuff but are still paying for it with outrageous taxes.

Edited by estonianman, Apr 4 2016, 01:21 PM.
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link?
Isn't it your OP? Did you not even watch your own link?
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Apr 4 2016, 09:20 AM
So how many leftists here used to live under communist rule? My guess is the biggest communist advocates here have zero experience.
I haven't seen any Communist advocates on this site. Do you have a list? Examples?
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estonianman
Apr 4 2016, 01:21 PM
I see thats become your usual excuse as to why social democratic governments are so successful in meeting the basic needs of it's citizens while still having a profitable, robust economy. It happens ''despite'' them being ''socialist''

It's absolutely true. If you look at the government sectors of most economies, they are inefficient and deep in debt. The only countries that are prosperous are the ones that enjoy economic liberty, not the other way around.

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Oh really, and what countries are these?
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Apr 4 2016, 01:38 PM
estonianman
Apr 4 2016, 01:21 PM
I see thats become your usual excuse as to why social democratic governments are so successful in meeting the basic needs of it's citizens while still having a profitable, robust economy. It happens ''despite'' them being ''socialist''

It's absolutely true. If you look at the government sectors of most economies, they are inefficient and deep in debt. The only countries that are prosperous are the ones that enjoy economic liberty, not the other way around.

.

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Oh really, and what countries are these?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_debt_crisis
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So how many leftists here used to live under communist rule? My guess is the biggest communist advocates here have zero experience.
I haven't seen any Communist advocates on this site. Do you have a list? Examples?
eyeless.
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Apr 4 2016, 01:40 PM
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Apr 4 2016, 01:38 PM
estonianman
Apr 4 2016, 01:21 PM
I see thats become your usual excuse as to why social democratic governments are so successful in meeting the basic needs of it's citizens while still having a profitable, robust economy. It happens ''despite'' them being ''socialist''

It's absolutely true. If you look at the government sectors of most economies, they are inefficient and deep in debt. The only countries that are prosperous are the ones that enjoy economic liberty, not the other way around.

.

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Oh really, and what countries are these?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_debt_crisis
No, I asked you which countries have this economic freedom you keep going on about. You never answered that
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Apr 4 2016, 01:44 PM
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Apr 4 2016, 01:40 PM
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Apr 4 2016, 01:38 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepIt's absolutely true. If you look at the government sectors of most economies, they are inefficient and deep in debt. The only countries that are prosperous are the ones that enjoy economic liberty, not the other way around.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_debt_crisis
No, I asked you which countries have this economic freedom you keep going on about. You never answered that
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_of_Economic_Freedom
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Apr 4 2016, 01:44 PM
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Apr 4 2016, 01:44 PM
estonianman
Apr 4 2016, 01:40 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepIt's absolutely true. If you look at the government sectors of most economies, they are inefficient and deep in debt. The only countries that are prosperous are the ones that enjoy economic liberty, not the other way around.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_debt_crisis
No, I asked you which countries have this economic freedom you keep going on about. You never answered that
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_of_Economic_Freedom
The #1 on the list is Hong Kong. Hong Kong is part of communist China

All the rest ahead of the US are considered mixed economies, all with national healthcare and other systems we lack

Big FAIL
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Apr 4 2016, 01:48 PM
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Apr 4 2016, 01:44 PM
Attaburnsinhell
Apr 4 2016, 01:44 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepIt's absolutely true. If you look at the government sectors of most economies, they are inefficient and deep in debt. The only countries that are prosperous are the ones that enjoy economic liberty, not the other way around.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_debt_crisis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_of_Economic_Freedom
The #1 on the list is Hong Kong. Hong Kong is part of communist China

All the rest ahead of the US are considered mixed economies, all with national healthcare and other systems we lack

Big FAIL
Hong Kong was left alone by the Chinese because the economic liberty was superior to the centralized chinese version. This example invalidates your entire position, the mixed economy fallacy.

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All the rest ahead of the US are considered mixed economies,


How is this at all relevant? All the leftists brag about Denmark - and its economic freedom is at the top of the list. Especially with their own government's owning up that their programs are broke - it is easy to correlate that if it wasn't for this economic freedom these countries would be joining the big statist economies at the bottom of the list.

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all with national healthcare and other systems we lack


How does a national healthcare monopoly contribute to economic freedom? That which is the number 1 contributor to wealth, prosperity and a standard of living.
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So how many leftists here used to live under communist rule? My guess is the biggest communist advocates here have zero experience.
I haven't seen any Communist advocates on this site. Do you have a list? Examples?
adding to what Esto wrote, you can put Atta and Dem4life on the list.
Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind.
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Apr 4 2016, 01:55 PM
Attaburnsinhell
Apr 4 2016, 01:48 PM
estonianman
Apr 4 2016, 01:44 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepIt's absolutely true. If you look at the government sectors of most economies, they are inefficient and deep in debt. The only countries that are prosperous are the ones that enjoy economic liberty, not the other way around.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_debt_crisishttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_of_Economic_Freedom
The #1 on the list is Hong Kong. Hong Kong is part of communist China

All the rest ahead of the US are considered mixed economies, all with national healthcare and other systems we lack

Big FAIL
Hong Kong was left alone by the Chinese because the economic liberty was superior to the centralized chinese version. This example invalidates your entire position, the mixed economy fallacy.

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All the rest ahead of the US are considered mixed economies,


How is this at all relevant? All the leftists brag about Denmark - and its economic freedom is at the top of the list. Especially with their own government's owning up that their programs are broke - it is easy to correlate that if it wasn't for this economic freedom these countries would be joining the big statist economies at the bottom of the list.

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all with national healthcare and other systems we lack


How does a national healthcare monopoly contribute to economic freedom? That which is the number 1 contributor to wealth, prosperity and a standard of living.
At the bottom of your list are libertarian paradises like Somalia, freedom to walk around carrying bundles on their heads along dirt paths

And Denmark isnt broke

Face it, you're a miser who follows crackpot ideologies that claim you don't have to pay taxes into a social safety net

Economic freedom comes with a price
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Btw Hong Kong serves the interests of the Chinese state. It has no military budget, it's not a country in any sense. Instead of being a colony of GB, it became a colony of China, a form of industrial park
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