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How Saudi Arabia's war in Yemen has made al Qaeda stronger – and richer
Topic Started: Apr 8 2016, 07:33 AM (1,218 Views)
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By Yara Bayoumy, Noah Browning and Mohammed Ghobari / Filed April 8, 2016, 9 a.m. GMT

One unintended consequence of the war in Yemen: Al Qaeda now runs its own mini-state, flush with funds from raiding the local central bank and levying taxes at the local port.
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Saudi Wahhabis and Israeli haredim have much in common, theologically, politically and militarily. Uncle Sam supplies the bankroll and the crazies do the rest.
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Yemen’s guerrilla war tests military ambitions of big-spending Saudis
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Riyadh has spent tens of billions on new US weaponry. But its intervention in neighbouring Yemen has not gone smoothly.
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LOW FLYING: Saudi Arabia has the third largest defence budget in the world. But its armed forces, seen here at a ceremony for air force officers at King Faisal military college in Riyadh in 2009, have struggled in the guerrilla conflict in Yemen. REUTERS/Fahad Shadeed
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LETHAL TOLL: A man carries a body from a house destroyed by an air strike in the old quarter of Yemen's capital Sanaa, September 19, 2015. REUTERS/Mohamed al-Sayaghi
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The Yemenis kill many more of each other without using expensive weapons like the Saudis use.............. :biggrin:
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Apr 20 2016, 08:55 AM
The Yemenis kill many more of each other without using expensive weapons like the Saudis use.............. :biggrin:
I'd like to see the casualty statistics that back up your pronouncement. In any event, two young men shooting at each other with assault weapons produce a different casualty demographic than the prefered Saudi-Israeli tactic of HE and cluster weapons dropped indiscriminately on towns and cities. It ain't just how many you kill, it's whom you kill.
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Apr 20 2016, 02:42 PM
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Apr 20 2016, 08:55 AM
The Yemenis kill many more of each other without using expensive weapons like the Saudis use.............. :biggrin:
I'd like to see the casualty statistics that back up your pronouncement. In any event, two young men shooting at each other with assault weapons produce a different casualty demographic than the prefered Saudi-Israeli tactic of HE and cluster weapons dropped indiscriminately on towns and cities. It ain't just how many you kill, it's whom you kill.
Both sides use live civilians as mobile sandbags........... :booboo:
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How Wartime Washington Lives in Luxury
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Meet the new class profiting from the growth of the national-security state.

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Former U.S. Diplomats Decry the U.S.-Backed Saudi War in Yemen
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SAUDI ARABIA AND the other Arab states that form the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) have been brutally bombing Yemen for more than a year, hoping to drive Houthi rebels out of the capital they overran in 2014 and restore Saudi-backed President Abdu Rabbu Mansour Hadi.

The United States has forcefully backed the Saudi-led war. In addition to sharing intelligence, the U.S. has sold tens of billions of dollars in munitions to the Saudis since the war began. The kingdom has used U.S.-produced aircraft, laser-guided bombs, and internationally-banned cluster bombs to target and destroy schools, markets, power plants, and a hospital, resulting in thousands of civilian deaths.

Despite all that, U.S. officials have done little to explain this support, have failed to explain the U.S. interests in the campaign, and have made scant mention of the humanitarian toll. In the absence of an official response, The Intercept raised those concerns with half a dozen former senior diplomatic officials, including U.S. ambassadors to Yemen and Saudi Arabia.

But rather than defend or explain the U.S. involvement, most of the former diplomats we interviewed said that the war harms U.S. interests.
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Top photo: Yemenis inspect the damage at a sewing workshop that was hit by a Saudi-led coalition air strike in the capital Sanaa, on Feb. 14, 2016.
Photo: Mohammed Hawais/AFP/Getty Images)
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Yemen conflict: UN takes Saudi coalition off child blacklist
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The Saudi-led coalition fighting Houthi rebels in Yemen has been removed from a UN blacklist of states and groups that violate children's rights in conflict.

Saudi Arabia protested after the UN released a report saying the coalition was responsible for 60% of the child deaths and injuries in Yemen last year.

It said the casualty figures were "wildly exaggerated".
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The human rights campaign group Human Rights Watch sharply criticised the move, saying the UN chief's office had "hit a new low".
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The UN said 1,168 children, more than 70% of them boys, were injured in the conflict in 2015
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The King of Saudi Arabia has set his hair on fire in Yemen and he is trying to put it out with a hammer. When the kingdom topples, the Egyptian army will take over and create a new regional superpower. Then we won't need Israel any more and Bibi can go back to measuring linoleum for Monkey Wards in Pittsburg.
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The House of Ibn Saud has always profited from the West's dependence on oil.
We kow-tow to them because of that, while they secretively sponsor terror.
Our naiveté will cost us dearly one day.
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The King of Saudi Arabia has set his hair on fire in Yemen and he is trying to put it out with a hammer. When the kingdom topples, the Egyptian army will take over and create a new regional superpower. Then we won't need Israel any more and Bibi can go back to measuring linoleum for Monkey Wards in Pittsburg.
Your grand plan for the Middle East sounds like a Palestinian wet dream............ :rotflmao:
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Jun 7 2016, 03:43 PM
The House of Ibn Saud has always profited from the West's dependence on oil.
We kow-tow to them because of that, while they secretively sponsor terror.
Our naiveté will cost us dearly one day.
Our naiveté has already cost us beaucoup. Saudi oil production was something of a late comer to world markets but their low lift cost gives them a serious price advantage. When the US started courting the Saud family we were equally focused on the strategic importance of air bases for defense of the Middle East. The rabid anti-Communism of the Wahhabi clergy was much admired as a bulwark against Nasser and Assad who flirted with the USSR.
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The House of Ibn Saud has always profited from the West's dependence on oil.
We kow-tow to them because of that, while they secretively sponsor terror.
Our naiveté will cost us dearly one day.
Our naiveté has already cost us beaucoup. Saudi oil production was something of a late comer to world markets but their low lift cost gives them a serious price advantage. When the US started courting the Saud family we were equally focused on the strategic importance of air bases for defense of the Middle East. The rabid anti-Communism of the Wahhabi clergy was much admired as a bulwark against Nasser and Assad who flirted with the USSR.
Only because the US gold backed Dollar ended and the creation of Perto/Dollar (Oil had to traded using only US dollars)

This is ending btw. US dollar is losing it's World Reserve status.
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Jun 7 2016, 03:43 PM
The House of Ibn Saud has always profited from the West's dependence on oil.
We kow-tow to them because of that, while they secretively sponsor terror.
Our naiveté will cost us dearly one day.
Our naiveté has already cost us beaucoup. Saudi oil production was something of a late comer to world markets but their low lift cost gives them a serious price advantage. When the US started courting the Saud family we were equally focused on the strategic importance of air bases for defense of the Middle East. The rabid anti-Communism of the Wahhabi clergy was much admired as a bulwark against Nasser and Assad who flirted with the USSR.
Only because the US gold backed Dollar ended and the creation of Perto/Dollar (Oil had to traded using only US dollars)

This is ending btw. US dollar is losing it's World Reserve status.
Our relatively strong dollar is dragging down our exports and slowing job creation in the USA. We need a cheaper dollar and at least 5% inflation to get our annual growth up to the point where we can rebuild for tomorrow.
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Jun 7 2016, 03:43 PM
The House of Ibn Saud has always profited from the West's dependence on oil.
We kow-tow to them because of that, while they secretively sponsor terror.
Our naiveté will cost us dearly one day.
Our naiveté has already cost us beaucoup. Saudi oil production was something of a late comer to world markets but their low lift cost gives them a serious price advantage. When the US started courting the Saud family we were equally focused on the strategic importance of air bases for defense of the Middle East. The rabid anti-Communism of the Wahhabi clergy was much admired as a bulwark against Nasser and Assad who flirted with the USSR.
More recently ISIS was created as the bastard child of the CIA and Obama...Somehow "moderate rebels" were another miscalculation in Washington DC....Is everyone there still asleep at the wheel ??? Sadly the liberation of Libya did not teach them anything............. :oyvey
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Rights groups urge U.N. to put Saudi Yemen coalition back on blacklist
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Twenty human rights groups urged United Nations chief Ban Ki-moon on Wednesday to put a Saudi Arabia-led military coalition back on a U.N. blacklist for killing and maiming children in Yemen because the evidence against it was "overwhelming."

The United Nations removed the coalition from its annual blacklist on Monday pending a joint review by the pair. Riyadh, a key U.N. donor, had threatened to cut off funding, diplomatic sources said on Tuesday. Saudi Arabia denied using threats.

The letter to Ban on Wednesday, signed by groups including Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International and Oxfam, criticized Ban, who steps down at the end of the year, saying he capitulated to Saudi Arabia and tainted his legacy.
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U.N. Chief Admits He Removed Saudi Arabia From Child-Killer List Due to Extortion
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U.N. SECRETARY-GENERAL Ban Ki-moon publicly acknowledged Thursday that he removed the Saudi Arabia-led coalition currently bombing Yemen from a blacklist of child killers — 72 hours after it was published — due to a financial threat to defund United Nations programs.

The secretary-general didn’t name the source of the threat, but news reports have indicated it came directly from the Saudi government.
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Worried About “Stigmatizing” Cluster Bombs, House Approves More Sales to Saudi Arabia
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THE HOUSE ON THURSDAY narrowly defeated a measure that would have banned the transfer of cluster bombs to Saudi Arabia, but the closeness of the vote was an indication of growing congressional opposition to the conduct of the U.S.-backed, Saudi-led bombing coalition in Yemen.
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Despite the defeat, human rights activists celebrated the closeness of the vote. “This is a big deal for the U.S.-Saudi Arabia alliance,” said Sunjeev Bery, Amnesty International’s advocacy director for the Middle East in the U.S. “More and more members of Congress are clearly getting tired of selling Saudi Arabia bombs when it is dropping them on civilians in Yemen.”
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Worried About “Stigmatizing” Cluster Bombs, House Approves More Sales to Saudi Arabia
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THE HOUSE ON THURSDAY narrowly defeated a measure that would have banned the transfer of cluster bombs to Saudi Arabia, but the closeness of the vote was an indication of growing congressional opposition to the conduct of the U.S.-backed, Saudi-led bombing coalition in Yemen.
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Despite the defeat, human rights activists celebrated the closeness of the vote. “This is a big deal for the U.S.-Saudi Arabia alliance,” said Sunjeev Bery, Amnesty International’s advocacy director for the Middle East in the U.S. “More and more members of Congress are clearly getting tired of selling Saudi Arabia bombs when it is dropping them on civilians in Yemen.”
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Oh please...The USA would sell Saudi Arabia nuclear weapons if Saudi Arabia requested some............ :biggrin:
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