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Without Government who wil pay for those private construction companies?
Topic Started: Apr 12 2016, 03:08 PM (1,516 Views)
estonianman
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Tsalagi
Apr 13 2016, 07:17 AM
Right-Wing
Apr 12 2016, 10:14 PM
Tsalagi
Apr 12 2016, 03:08 PM
All those guys sitting on their thumbs waiting for a contract to build highways, on-ramps, bridges, renovations? Tens of thousands of blue collar workers depending on government contracts?
Great Northern Railway

The Great Northern was the only privately funded — and successfully built — transcontinental railroad in U.S. history. No federal land grants were used during its construction, unlike all other transcontinental railroads.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Northern_Railway_(U.S.)
This is a joke right?...you had to delve back a century and more to find an example?
Everything is a non-answer - you're just looking for oppression points eh chief?

Face it - in every single one of these topics you are over your head.
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estonianman
Apr 13 2016, 10:04 AM
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Apr 13 2016, 07:17 AM
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Apr 12 2016, 10:14 PM
This is a joke right?...you had to delve back a century and more to find an example?
Everything is a non-answer - you're just looking for oppression points eh chief?

Face it - in every single one of these topics you are over your head.
No, only your answers are non-answers, easier that way to obfuscate rather then actually implicate your philosophy/system/whatever you want to call it doesn't exactly work without Goverment.
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Apr 13 2016, 10:07 AM
estonianman
Apr 13 2016, 10:04 AM
Tsalagi
Apr 13 2016, 07:17 AM
Everything is a non-answer - you're just looking for oppression points eh chief?

Face it - in every single one of these topics you are over your head.
No, only your answers are non-answers, easier that way to obfuscate rather then actually implicate your philosophy/system/whatever you want to call it doesn't exactly work without Goverment.
We have given you answers - there was a thread on the old site that was about a dozen pages long of me schooling your ass.

You are trying to justify government by saying "look it exists, so it must be justified". That's the only non-answer my friend.

http://fare.tunes.org/liberty/public_goods_fallacies.html
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Apr 13 2016, 10:11 AM
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estonianman
Apr 13 2016, 10:04 AM
No, only your answers are non-answers, easier that way to obfuscate rather then actually implicate your philosophy/system/whatever you want to call it doesn't exactly work without Goverment.
We have given you answers - there was a thread on the old site that was about a dozen pages long of me schooling your ass.

You are trying to justify government by saying "look it exists, so it must be justified". That's the only non-answer my friend.

http://fare.tunes.org/liberty/public_goods_fallacies.html
You schooling me...ahuh, informing me, I can see you doing but I sure as hell wouldn't have stayed awake on a thread of yours dozens of pages long...your shtick is simple enough to grasp. "There is nothing that government can do that the private sector can't do better and more efficiently, that government in itself is a bad thing", says the man who lives in a society based on the Rule of Law and Government.
Edited by Tsalagi, Apr 13 2016, 10:19 AM.
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estonianman
Apr 12 2016, 05:23 PM

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Every market exists because of government

Libertarians are like 10 year olds plotting to run away from home.. after lunch
Source? People trade because of government?
http://perspectives.com/profile/3468799/

Source.


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Apr 13 2016, 10:19 AM
estonianman
Apr 13 2016, 10:11 AM
Tsalagi
Apr 13 2016, 10:07 AM
We have given you answers - there was a thread on the old site that was about a dozen pages long of me schooling your ass.

You are trying to justify government by saying "look it exists, so it must be justified". That's the only non-answer my friend.

http://fare.tunes.org/liberty/public_goods_fallacies.html
You schooling me...ahuh, informing me, I can see you doing but I sure as hell wouldn't have stayed awake on a thread of yours dozens of pages long...your shtick is simple enough to grasp. "There is nothing that government can do that the private sector can't do better and more efficiently, that government in itself is a bad thing", says the man who lives in a society based on the Rule of Law and Government.
That's another fallacy. Just because there is a lord over the lands doesn't mean we all need to bow to it.

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Apr 13 2016, 10:24 AM
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Apr 12 2016, 05:56 PM
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Apr 12 2016, 05:36 PM

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Source? People trade because of government?
http://perspectives.com/profile/3468799/

Source.
This thread has now reached an intellectual low point.

Lemme guess - libertarians should all move to a failed socialist state and take up piracy?
Edited by estonianman, Apr 13 2016, 10:27 AM.
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Apr 13 2016, 10:25 AM
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You schooling me...ahuh, informing me, I can see you doing but I sure as hell wouldn't have stayed awake on a thread of yours dozens of pages long...your shtick is simple enough to grasp. "There is nothing that government can do that the private sector can't do better and more efficiently, that government in itself is a bad thing", says the man who lives in a society based on the Rule of Law and Government.
That's another fallacy. Just because there is a lord over the lands doesn't mean we all need to bow to it.

Fallacy, you live underneath the security of that blanket, then have the gall to tell others they don't need their blankets. Friggin amazing.
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estonianman
Apr 12 2016, 06:34 PM
What unchecked monopolies?

Name one.
what keeps them in check?
“Strong people don’t need strong leaders.”
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Apr 13 2016, 10:26 AM
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Apr 12 2016, 05:56 PM

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http://perspectives.com/profile/3468799/

Source.
This thread has now reached an intellectual low point.

Lemme guess - libertarians should all move to a failed socialist state and take up piracy?
Where you move is irrevelent..but I for one would absolutely love to see a whole society of yours try to function in a way you say it should.
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Tsalagi
Apr 13 2016, 07:17 AM
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Tsalagi
Apr 12 2016, 03:08 PM
All those guys sitting on their thumbs waiting for a contract to build highways, on-ramps, bridges, renovations? Tens of thousands of blue collar workers depending on government contracts?
Great Northern Railway

The Great Northern was the only privately funded — and successfully built — transcontinental railroad in U.S. history. No federal land grants were used during its construction, unlike all other transcontinental railroads.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Northern_Railway_(U.S.)
This is a joke right?...you had to delve back a century and more to find an example?
Says the guy reaching back to the Native American stuff on a daily basis.
Only liberals can choose not to go down the road to widespread, systematic violence.
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Apr 13 2016, 10:34 AM
estonianman
Apr 12 2016, 06:34 PM
What unchecked monopolies?

Name one.
what keeps them in check?
Give me a natural monopoly and we can proceed.
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Apr 13 2016, 10:35 AM
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Apr 13 2016, 10:26 AM
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Apr 13 2016, 10:24 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deephttp://perspectives.com/profile/3468799/

Source.
This thread has now reached an intellectual low point.

Lemme guess - libertarians should all move to a failed socialist state and take up piracy?
Where you move is irrevelent..but I for one would absolutely love to see a whole society of yours try to function in a way you say it should.
cap·i·tal·ism
ˈkapədlˌizəm/
noun
an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.
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Apr 13 2016, 10:40 AM
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This is a joke right?...you had to delve back a century and more to find an example?
Says the guy reaching back to the Native American stuff on a daily basis.
:nana:
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Apr 13 2016, 10:26 AM
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Apr 12 2016, 05:56 PM

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http://perspectives.com/profile/3468799/

Source.
This thread has now reached an intellectual low point.

Lemme guess - libertarians should all move to a failed socialist state and take up piracy?
You may as well... It is a childlike fantasy.
I think you should go for it.


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estonianman
Apr 13 2016, 10:41 AM
Give me a natural monopoly and we can proceed.
No, that's a dodge.

What keeps any monopoly in check?
“Strong people don’t need strong leaders.”
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This is a joke right?...you had to delve back a century and more to find an example?
Says the guy reaching back to the Native American stuff on a daily basis.
Yet, I'm not advocating anyone should return to a live in a long home and become hunter gatherers all the while typing on a 21st century computer.
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Apr 13 2016, 10:42 AM
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Apr 13 2016, 10:35 AM
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Apr 13 2016, 10:26 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deephttp://perspectives.com/profile/3468799/
Where you move is irrevelent..but I for one would absolutely love to see a whole society of yours try to function in a way you say it should.
cap·i·tal·ism
ˈkapədlˌizəm/
noun
an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.
Capitalism is an economic model, it is not a political philosophy...you say you can run a community without that pesky government model...I'd like for you to gather a whole bunch of Libertarians like yourself and attempt a go at it along the lines of what you and Ayn Rand believe.
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Apr 13 2016, 11:30 AM
estonianman
Apr 13 2016, 10:41 AM
Give me a natural monopoly and we can proceed.
No, that's a dodge.

What keeps any monopoly in check?
It's a vague question - you need to give me more information
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Apr 13 2016, 11:41 AM
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Apr 13 2016, 10:41 AM
Give me a natural monopoly and we can proceed.
No, that's a dodge.

What keeps any monopoly in check?
It's a vague question - you need to give me more information
What kept AT&T from strangling all competition for a century
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