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Make the Confederacy's Defeat a National Holiday; 150 years ago this week, Robert E. Lee surrendered to the Union. Let's celebrate it—every year.
Topic Started: Apr 12 2016, 06:11 PM (1,885 Views)
Attaburnsinhell

https://newrepublic.com/article/121406/civil-war-150th-anniversary-confederacy-defeat-should-be-holiday
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We can say that it is to celebrate Northern "heritage".
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That's a wonderful idea. All we have to do now is defeat the Confederacy...
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.
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philly rabbit

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Apr 12 2016, 06:12 PM
We can say that it is to celebrate Northern "heritage".
Two million people either directly or indirectly killed and millions of dollars in private property damage.

Progressive blood lust doesn't warrant celebration, only shame in what was the most shameful chapter in this country's history.
Proud Deplorable.
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philly rabbit
Apr 12 2016, 09:06 PM
Opinionated
Apr 12 2016, 06:12 PM
We can say that it is to celebrate Northern "heritage".
Two million people either directly or indirectly killed and millions of dollars in private property damage.

Progressive blood lust doesn't warrant celebration, only shame in what was the most shameful chapter in this country's history.
Philly - for once I agree with you.

Celebrating the death of millions is exactly what I would expect from a regressive authoritarian.
MEEK AND MILD
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estonianman
Apr 12 2016, 09:09 PM
philly rabbit
Apr 12 2016, 09:06 PM
Opinionated
Apr 12 2016, 06:12 PM
We can say that it is to celebrate Northern "heritage".
Two million people either directly or indirectly killed and millions of dollars in private property damage.

Progressive blood lust doesn't warrant celebration, only shame in what was the most shameful chapter in this country's history.
Philly - for once I agree with you.

Celebrating the death of millions is exactly what I would expect from a regressive authoritarian.
Especially when they are white men.
Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary.
#MAGA
#wallsnotwars
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Southerners celebrate confederate soldiers all the time. No reason not to celebrate the guys who won....
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.
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The winner of the Civil War is only in doubt because Lincoln failed to hang all the confederate traitors.............. :oyvey
Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid
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philly rabbit
Apr 12 2016, 09:06 PM
Opinionated
Apr 12 2016, 06:12 PM
We can say that it is to celebrate Northern "heritage".
Two million people either directly or indirectly killed and millions of dollars in private property damage.

Progressive blood lust doesn't warrant celebration, only shame in what was the most shameful chapter in this country's history.
The blame for that tragedy is wholly on the south

The root cause was slavery. The south knew that in order to preserve it they had to add territories, expanding out to Kansas, Missourri, make them slave states, thus increasing their numbers in Congress. It didn't work, so they said screw America, we're stealing a piece for ourselves, and they fired the first shot against the US government. They murdered thousands of American soldiers in their greed

In the end they lost, but not being honorable people, they dishonored their terms of surrender, fighting a guerrila war, murdering their ex-slaves, until the US government had to slap them around again and make them fall in line. Had a less benevalent foe vanquished them, they could have been driven into exile, their leaders hung for treason, stripped them of everything. Instead Lincoln promised ''malice toward none'', his good will was rewarded by a rebel assassin

Good men died to preserve this nation, they deserve the honor, not those who spit on it
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Ronin
Apr 12 2016, 09:47 PM
Southerners celebrate confederate soldiers all the time. No reason not to celebrate the guys who won....
The losers expect to celebrate the miserable four year existence of the Confederacy as if it meant something more than a failed attempt to break away from the United States in order to perpetuate slavery. And then act all bent out of shape when the side that had right on their side and actually won the war suggests that maybe they should be the ones celebrating.
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Robert Stout
Apr 12 2016, 10:01 PM
The winner of the Civil War is only in doubt because Lincoln failed to hang all the confederate traitors.............. :oyvey
The Romans knew how to deal with similar rebellions. They slaughtered most, took the remainer either as slaves, or nailed them to crosses. No more problems
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Attaburnsinhell
Apr 12 2016, 10:18 PM
Robert Stout
Apr 12 2016, 10:01 PM
The winner of the Civil War is only in doubt because Lincoln failed to hang all the confederate traitors.............. :oyvey
The Romans knew how to deal with similar rebellions. They slaughtered most, took the remainer either as slaves, or nailed them to crosses. No more problems
You know who else knew how to crack down on dissent and regional pride?

Joseph Stalin.
Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary.
#MAGA
#wallsnotwars
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Robert Stout
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Southerners mainly fought the Civil War to prevent being forced to talk like a Yankee................... :nana:
Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid
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Robert Stout
Apr 12 2016, 10:22 PM
Southerners mainly fought the Civil War to prevent being forced to talk like a Yankee................... :nana:
If you have been to New York and New Jersey then you would know it was a war well worth fighting.
Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary.
#MAGA
#wallsnotwars
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Attaburnsinhell
Apr 12 2016, 10:18 PM
Robert Stout
Apr 12 2016, 10:01 PM
The winner of the Civil War is only in doubt because Lincoln failed to hang all the confederate traitors.............. :oyvey
The Romans knew how to deal with similar rebellions. They slaughtered most, took the remainer either as slaves, or nailed them to crosses. No more problems
Wow. Way to expose your lack of ethics comrade.
MEEK AND MILD
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philly rabbit
Apr 12 2016, 09:06 PM
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Apr 12 2016, 06:12 PM
We can say that it is to celebrate Northern "heritage".
Two million people either directly or indirectly killed and millions of dollars in private property damage.

Progressive blood lust doesn't warrant celebration, only shame in what was the most shameful chapter in this country's history.
Do you have no shame, sir?
Are you bereft of any grace or integrity?
You have started thread after thread babbling on about how "noble' the confederacy was.
You fly its flag and carry on like some debutante drag queen after too many mint juleps.
You defend a society who's economy was based on the slavery and brutal subjugation of fellow human beings.
Under the veneer of civility, with fopped out dandys and belles parading at cotillions yammering about honor and chivalry,
lied a reeking cesspool of mendacity, greed and venality on the backs of people stolen from their homes and treated like chattel.

And after the war and the emancipation, instead of being like "hey, we were assholes..we now welcome our black brothers and sisters as fellow Americans",
That same society created laws that put black folk under the boot heel of bigotry, subjecting to lynchings, oppression and terror for another century.

You celebrate this very culture..and you have the gall to wank off about people celebrating the north? :oyvey
You pull out the fiddle and wax about how shameful the war was?
Really?
You have dropped some fetid deuces on these boards but this hypocritical pile of bovine excrement takes the cake.
Edited by Mr. Tik, Apr 13 2016, 12:43 AM.
You may be a conservative republican..if you are pro life until you get your mistress knocked up
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Apr 13 2016, 12:42 AM
philly rabbit
Apr 12 2016, 09:06 PM
Opinionated
Apr 12 2016, 06:12 PM
We can say that it is to celebrate Northern "heritage".
Two million people either directly or indirectly killed and millions of dollars in private property damage.

Progressive blood lust doesn't warrant celebration, only shame in what was the most shameful chapter in this country's history.
Do you have no shame, sir?
Are you bereft of any grace or integrity?
You have started thread after thread babbling on about how "noble' the confederacy was.
You fly its flag and carry on like some debutante drag queen after too many mint juleps.
You defend a society who's economy was based on the slavery and brutal subjugation of fellow human beings.
Under the veneer of civility, with fopped out dandys and belles parading at cotillions yammering about honor and chivalry,
lied a reeking cesspool of mendacity, greed and venality on the backs of people stolen from their homes and treated like chattel.

And after the war and the emancipation, instead of being like "hey, we were assholes..we now welcome our black brothers and sisters as fellow Americans",
That same society created laws that put black folk under the boot heel of bigotry, subjecting to lynchings, oppression and terror for another century.

You celebrate this very culture..and you have the gall to wank off about people celebrating the north? :oyvey
You pull out the fiddle and wax about how shameful the war was?
Really?
You have dropped some fetid deuces on these boards but this hypocritical pile of bovine excrement takes the cake.
In a broader view, the slave owners did save their property from having to hunt lions with spears, the slaves didn't have to pay a fare for their trip to America, and blacks got clergy like Al Sharpton rather than witch doctors...You should consider the good with the bad........... :dunno:
Edited by Robert Stout, Apr 13 2016, 12:57 AM.
Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid
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Coast2coast

The end of the American Civil War should be noted, not celebrated. It was a horrible division that put Americans at war with their fellow Americans to the tune of over six hundred thousand Americans killed and over a million injured. American lives shattered, families torn apart.

This was an American tragedy.
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Robert Stout
Apr 13 2016, 12:53 AM
Adolph Hipster
Apr 13 2016, 12:42 AM
philly rabbit
Apr 12 2016, 09:06 PM

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Do you have no shame, sir?
Are you bereft of any grace or integrity?
You have started thread after thread babbling on about how "noble' the confederacy was.
You fly its flag and carry on like some debutante drag queen after too many mint juleps.
You defend a society who's economy was based on the slavery and brutal subjugation of fellow human beings.
Under the veneer of civility, with fopped out dandys and belles parading at cotillions yammering about honor and chivalry,
lied a reeking cesspool of mendacity, greed and venality on the backs of people stolen from their homes and treated like chattel.

And after the war and the emancipation, instead of being like "hey, we were assholes..we now welcome our black brothers and sisters as fellow Americans",
That same society created laws that put black folk under the boot heel of bigotry, subjecting to lynchings, oppression and terror for another century.

You celebrate this very culture..and you have the gall to wank off about people celebrating the north? :oyvey
You pull out the fiddle and wax about how shameful the war was?
Really?
You have dropped some fetid deuces on these boards but this hypocritical pile of bovine excrement takes the cake.
In a broader view, the slave owners did save their property from having to hunt lions with spears, the slaves didn't have to pay a fare for their trip to America, and blacks got clergy like Al Sharpton rather than witch doctors...You should consider the good with the bad........... :dunno:


That's like arguing that rape isn't really rape if the rapist wears a condom.
Edited by Mr. Tik, Apr 13 2016, 01:38 AM.
You may be a conservative republican..if you are pro life until you get your mistress knocked up
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philly rabbit
Apr 12 2016, 09:06 PM
Opinionated
Apr 12 2016, 06:12 PM
We can say that it is to celebrate Northern "heritage".
Two million people either directly or indirectly killed and millions of dollars in private property damage.

Progressive blood lust doesn't warrant celebration, only shame in what was the most shameful chapter in this country's history.
"Progressive Blood Lust"? That's your takeaway?


It's tragic when those that carry on have learned nothing from those that could not.



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