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What should we do with the military?
Topic Started: Apr 14 2016, 10:57 AM (331 Views)
Drudge X
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Leftists are saying the U.S. is spending way too much on the military. You know, military industrial complex yada yada yada.

Trump wants other hosting countries to help foot the bill.

Leftists say that is unwise and dangerous.


Am I hearing hypocrisy here? What should we do?
Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind.
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Apr 14 2016, 10:57 AM
Leftists are saying the U.S. is spending way too much on the military. You know, military industrial complex yada yada yada.

Trump wants other hosting countries to help foot the bill.

Leftists say that is unwise and dangerous.


Am I hearing hypocrisy here? What should we do?
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Best thing they could do if Trump was actually serious about border security is to cut the military, surgical strikes, not a broad sword, then transfer control of many units to DHS for use with Border Security to supplement the Border Patrol. It's the only way we might be able to get around Posse Commitatus violations.

Our military spends a lot of time in boring training, day in, day out, month in, month out., etc, etc...might as well have them being bored picking up illegals for transport back to Central/South America.

The Roman Legions were used to build Hadrian's Wall, I can see military colonies, well, bases at any rate every few miles, battalion strength perhaps, with appropriate medical, logistical, and aviation elements to support them.

Deployments could last 2 or 3 months apiece, rotating them out to avoid them going stir crazy sitting in the middle of the desert or along the lines of the Rio Grande.
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Tsalagi
Apr 14 2016, 11:48 AM
Best thing they could do if Trump was actually serious about border security is to cut the military, surgical strikes, not a broad sword, then transfer control of many units to DHS for use with Border Security to supplement the Border Patrol. It's the only way we might be able to get around Posse Commitatus violations.

Our military spends a lot of time in boring training, day in, day out, month in, month out., etc, etc...might as well have them being bored picking up illegals for transport back to Central/South America.

The Roman Legions were used to build Hadrian's Wall, I can see military colonies, well, bases at any rate every few miles, battalion strength perhaps, with appropriate medical, logistical, and aviation elements to support them.

Deployments could last 2 or 3 months apiece, rotating them out to avoid them going stir crazy sitting in the middle of the desert or along the lines of the Rio Grande.
Are you in favor of closing oversea sites such as in S. Korea and Japan?
Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind.
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Apr 14 2016, 12:55 PM
Tsalagi
Apr 14 2016, 11:48 AM
Best thing they could do if Trump was actually serious about border security is to cut the military, surgical strikes, not a broad sword, then transfer control of many units to DHS for use with Border Security to supplement the Border Patrol. It's the only way we might be able to get around Posse Commitatus violations.

Our military spends a lot of time in boring training, day in, day out, month in, month out., etc, etc...might as well have them being bored picking up illegals for transport back to Central/South America.

The Roman Legions were used to build Hadrian's Wall, I can see military colonies, well, bases at any rate every few miles, battalion strength perhaps, with appropriate medical, logistical, and aviation elements to support them.

Deployments could last 2 or 3 months apiece, rotating them out to avoid them going stir crazy sitting in the middle of the desert or along the lines of the Rio Grande.
Are you in favor of closing oversea sites such as in S. Korea and Japan?
I've always been in favor of closing 70% of most non-CONUS bases. Some we'll always need for force projection but most, most we can close down, turn over facilities to local host military or civilian authority.
Edited by Tsalagi, Apr 14 2016, 01:30 PM.
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Tsalagi
Apr 14 2016, 11:48 AM
Best thing they could do if Trump was actually serious about border security is to cut the military, surgical strikes, not a broad sword, then transfer control of many units to DHS for use with Border Security to supplement the Border Patrol. It's the only way we might be able to get around Posse Commitatus violations.

Our military spends a lot of time in boring training, day in, day out, month in, month out., etc, etc...might as well have them being bored picking up illegals for transport back to Central/South America.

The Roman Legions were used to build Hadrian's Wall, I can see military colonies, well, bases at any rate every few miles, battalion strength perhaps, with appropriate medical, logistical, and aviation elements to support them.

Deployments could last 2 or 3 months apiece, rotating them out to avoid them going stir crazy sitting in the middle of the desert or along the lines of the Rio Grande.
Frankly, I see that as hundreds of billions of dollars being spent to deal with a problem that is not a hundreds of billions of dollars problem.
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Tsalagi
Apr 14 2016, 01:29 PM
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Apr 14 2016, 12:55 PM
Tsalagi
Apr 14 2016, 11:48 AM
Best thing they could do if Trump was actually serious about border security is to cut the military, surgical strikes, not a broad sword, then transfer control of many units to DHS for use with Border Security to supplement the Border Patrol. It's the only way we might be able to get around Posse Commitatus violations.

Our military spends a lot of time in boring training, day in, day out, month in, month out., etc, etc...might as well have them being bored picking up illegals for transport back to Central/South America.

The Roman Legions were used to build Hadrian's Wall, I can see military colonies, well, bases at any rate every few miles, battalion strength perhaps, with appropriate medical, logistical, and aviation elements to support them.

Deployments could last 2 or 3 months apiece, rotating them out to avoid them going stir crazy sitting in the middle of the desert or along the lines of the Rio Grande.
Are you in favor of closing oversea sites such as in S. Korea and Japan?
I've always been in favor of closing 70% of most non-CONUS bases. Some we'll always need for force projection but most, most we can close down, turn over facilities to local host military or civilian authority.
How do you intent to do that when the US has far too many interest around the globe?

Eastern Europe
Asia
Middle East

Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind.
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Apr 14 2016, 02:36 PM
Tsalagi
Apr 14 2016, 01:29 PM
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Apr 14 2016, 12:55 PM

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I've always been in favor of closing 70% of most non-CONUS bases. Some we'll always need for force projection but most, most we can close down, turn over facilities to local host military or civilian authority.
How do you intent to do that when the US has far too many interest around the globe?

Eastern Europe
Asia
Middle East

As stated, there are several key bases non-CONUS which we can still utilize, there are dozens of useful but not strategic bases from all branches that can shut down.
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The U.S. has already closed most overseas bases that are not considered strategic. About all that is left are gateway bases used for transporting troops or material to conflict zones. About the only exception is S. Korea where we keep a large buffer force to keep the N. Koreans in check.
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Apr 14 2016, 01:33 PM
Tsalagi
Apr 14 2016, 11:48 AM
Best thing they could do if Trump was actually serious about border security is to cut the military, surgical strikes, not a broad sword, then transfer control of many units to DHS for use with Border Security to supplement the Border Patrol. It's the only way we might be able to get around Posse Commitatus violations.

Our military spends a lot of time in boring training, day in, day out, month in, month out., etc, etc...might as well have them being bored picking up illegals for transport back to Central/South America.

The Roman Legions were used to build Hadrian's Wall, I can see military colonies, well, bases at any rate every few miles, battalion strength perhaps, with appropriate medical, logistical, and aviation elements to support them.

Deployments could last 2 or 3 months apiece, rotating them out to avoid them going stir crazy sitting in the middle of the desert or along the lines of the Rio Grande.
Frankly, I see that as hundreds of billions of dollars being spent to deal with a problem that is not a hundreds of billions of dollars problem.
This is a problem worth doubling the national debt.
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Apr 14 2016, 03:14 PM
The U.S. has already closed most overseas bases that are not considered strategic. About all that is left are gateway bases used for transporting troops or material to conflict zones. About the only exception is S. Korea where we keep a large buffer force to keep the N. Koreans in check.
I'm not so sure of that closure list there Buck, I've gone over just a few in Germany alone, there are only 2 we need Ramstein, and Landstuhl....the rest...we could do without...Turkey, Incirlik, with just those three air bases alone we've a decent air transport hub for Europe and gateway into the Middle East.

There are several bases in England we could get rid of, for naval support, all we'd need to keep is Rota, Spain, and Sigonella, Italy. They'd cover the entire Med and North Africa. We keep Diego Garcia which covers the Indian Ocean, an gateways into East Africa and Southwest Asia. We keep Okinawa, Japan for coverage of the Pacific.

Those bases alone are sufficient for overseas force projection. The rest, we could at best, lease parts of bases, but I don't even want that much.
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Apr 14 2016, 03:20 PM
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Apr 14 2016, 01:33 PM
Tsalagi
Apr 14 2016, 11:48 AM
Best thing they could do if Trump was actually serious about border security is to cut the military, surgical strikes, not a broad sword, then transfer control of many units to DHS for use with Border Security to supplement the Border Patrol. It's the only way we might be able to get around Posse Commitatus violations.

Our military spends a lot of time in boring training, day in, day out, month in, month out., etc, etc...might as well have them being bored picking up illegals for transport back to Central/South America.

The Roman Legions were used to build Hadrian's Wall, I can see military colonies, well, bases at any rate every few miles, battalion strength perhaps, with appropriate medical, logistical, and aviation elements to support them.

Deployments could last 2 or 3 months apiece, rotating them out to avoid them going stir crazy sitting in the middle of the desert or along the lines of the Rio Grande.
Frankly, I see that as hundreds of billions of dollars being spent to deal with a problem that is not a hundreds of billions of dollars problem.
This is a problem worth doubling the national debt.
Not even remotely the case.
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Apr 14 2016, 05:52 PM
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Apr 14 2016, 03:20 PM
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This is a problem worth doubling the national debt.
Not even remotely the case.
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