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Neoliberalism – the ideology at the root of all our problems; Financial meltdown, environmental disaster – neoliberalism has played its part in them all.
Topic Started: Apr 16 2016, 05:40 PM (1,009 Views)
Attaburnsinhell

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/apr/15/neoliberalism-ideology-problem-george-monbiot
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That's funny coming from a neoliberal rag the Guardian. Neoliberalism coupled with its evil twin globalism has indeed become a problem. The Progressive Corporate elite that backs Clinton seeks a world revolution where borders wash away and the uniqueness of nations wash away. It's not that different from Communism.

Nationalism is the answer.
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Attaburnsinhell

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Apr 16 2016, 05:43 PM
That's funny coming from a neoliberal rag the Guardian. Neoliberalism coupled with its evil twin globalism has indeed become a problem. The Progressive Corporate elite that backs Clinton seeks a world revolution where borders wash away and the uniqueness of nations wash away. It's not that different from Communism.

Nationalism is the answer.
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Chris Hedges remarks that “fascist movements build their base not from the politically active but the politically inactive, the ‘losers’ who feel, often correctly, they have no voice or role to play in the political establishment”. When political debate no longer speaks to us, people become responsive instead to slogans, symbols and sensation. To the admirers of Trump, for example, facts and arguments appear irrelevant.
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Attaburnsinhell
Apr 16 2016, 05:53 PM
American Identitarian
Apr 16 2016, 05:43 PM
That's funny coming from a neoliberal rag the Guardian. Neoliberalism coupled with its evil twin globalism has indeed become a problem. The Progressive Corporate elite that backs Clinton seeks a world revolution where borders wash away and the uniqueness of nations wash away. It's not that different from Communism.

Nationalism is the answer.
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Chris Hedges remarks that “fascist movements build their base not from the politically active but the politically inactive, the ‘losers’ who feel, often correctly, they have no voice or role to play in the political establishment”. When political debate no longer speaks to us, people become responsive instead to slogans, symbols and sensation. To the admirers of Trump, for example, facts and arguments appear irrelevant.
The author has a bias against fascism. What's your point?
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Perhaps the adjectives used in the past have no meaning today...The lines of political ideology are blurred...Even the Pope mentions that the commies have stolen the Social Gospel from the Church............ :dunno:
Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid
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The Revenge of the Lower Classes and the Rise of American Fascism

By Chris Hedges

College-educated elites, on behalf of corporations, carried out the savage neoliberal assault on the working poor. Now they are being made to pay. Their duplicity—embodied in politicians such as Bill and Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama—succeeded for decades. These elites, many from East Coast Ivy League schools, spoke the language of values—civility, inclusivity, a condemnation of overt racism and bigotry, a concern for the middle class—while thrusting a knife into the back of the underclass for their corporate masters. This game has ended.

There are tens of millions of Americans, especially lower-class whites, rightfully enraged at what has been done to them, their families and their communities. They have risen up to reject the neoliberal policies and political correctness imposed on them by college-educated elites from both political parties: Lower-class whites are embracing an American fascism.

These Americans want a kind of freedom—a freedom to hate. They want the freedom to use words like “xxxx,” “kike,” “spic,” “chink,” “raghead” and “fag.” They want the freedom to idealize violence and the gun culture. They want the freedom to have enemies, to physically assault Muslims, undocumented workers, African-Americans, homosexuals and anyone who dares criticize their cryptofascism. They want the freedom to celebrate historical movements and figures that the college-educated elites condemn, including the Ku Klux Klan and the Confederacy. They want the freedom to ridicule and dismiss intellectuals, ideas, science and culture. They want the freedom to silence those who have been telling them how to behave. And they want the freedom to revel in hypermasculinity, racism, sexism and white patriarchy. These are the core sentiments of fascism. These sentiments are engendered by the collapse of the liberal state.

The Democrats are playing a very dangerous game by anointing Hillary Clinton as their presidential candidate. She epitomizes the double-dealing of the college-educated elites, those who speak the feel-your-pain language of ordinary men and women, who hold up the bible of political correctness, while selling out the poor and the working class to corporate power.


http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_revenge_of_the_lower_classes_and_the_rise_of_american_fascism_20160302
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Apr 16 2016, 05:55 PM
Attaburnsinhell
Apr 16 2016, 05:53 PM
American Identitarian
Apr 16 2016, 05:43 PM
That's funny coming from a neoliberal rag the Guardian. Neoliberalism coupled with its evil twin globalism has indeed become a problem. The Progressive Corporate elite that backs Clinton seeks a world revolution where borders wash away and the uniqueness of nations wash away. It's not that different from Communism.

Nationalism is the answer.
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Chris Hedges remarks that “fascist movements build their base not from the politically active but the politically inactive, the ‘losers’ who feel, often correctly, they have no voice or role to play in the political establishment”. When political debate no longer speaks to us, people become responsive instead to slogans, symbols and sensation. To the admirers of Trump, for example, facts and arguments appear irrelevant.
The author has a bias against fascism. What's your point?
Point being your nationalism is fascism, that you are a mindless reactionary
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Attaburnsinhell
Apr 16 2016, 06:02 PM
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Apr 16 2016, 05:55 PM
Attaburnsinhell
Apr 16 2016, 05:53 PM

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The author has a bias against fascism. What's your point?
Point being your nationalism is fascism, that you are a mindless reactionary
There is nothing mindless about it.
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Attaburnsinhell
Apr 16 2016, 06:00 PM
The Revenge of the Lower Classes and the Rise of American Fascism

By Chris Hedges

College-educated elites, on behalf of corporations, carried out the savage neoliberal assault on the working poor. Now they are being made to pay. Their duplicity—embodied in politicians such as Bill and Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama—succeeded for decades. These elites, many from East Coast Ivy League schools, spoke the language of values—civility, inclusivity, a condemnation of overt racism and bigotry, a concern for the middle class—while thrusting a knife into the back of the underclass for their corporate masters. This game has ended.

There are tens of millions of Americans, especially lower-class whites, rightfully enraged at what has been done to them, their families and their communities. They have risen up to reject the neoliberal policies and political correctness imposed on them by college-educated elites from both political parties: Lower-class whites are embracing an American fascism.

These Americans want a kind of freedom—a freedom to hate. They want the freedom to use words like “xxxx,” “kike,” “spic,” “chink,” “raghead” and “fag.” They want the freedom to idealize violence and the gun culture. They want the freedom to have enemies, to physically assault Muslims, undocumented workers, African-Americans, homosexuals and anyone who dares criticize their cryptofascism. They want the freedom to celebrate historical movements and figures that the college-educated elites condemn, including the Ku Klux Klan and the Confederacy. They want the freedom to ridicule and dismiss intellectuals, ideas, science and culture. They want the freedom to silence those who have been telling them how to behave. And they want the freedom to revel in hypermasculinity, racism, sexism and white patriarchy. These are the core sentiments of fascism. These sentiments are engendered by the collapse of the liberal state.

The Democrats are playing a very dangerous game by anointing Hillary Clinton as their presidential candidate. She epitomizes the double-dealing of the college-educated elites, those who speak the feel-your-pain language of ordinary men and women, who hold up the bible of political correctness, while selling out the poor and the working class to corporate power.


http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_revenge_of_the_lower_classes_and_the_rise_of_american_fascism_20160302
The progressive movement is married to corporate power. It doesn't have time for the elderly, for whites, or for men. Yes, Hillary Clinton who vowed to put white working class men out of work is dream opponent.
Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary.
#MAGA
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Apr 16 2016, 06:04 PM
Attaburnsinhell
Apr 16 2016, 06:00 PM
The Revenge of the Lower Classes and the Rise of American Fascism

By Chris Hedges

College-educated elites, on behalf of corporations, carried out the savage neoliberal assault on the working poor. Now they are being made to pay. Their duplicity—embodied in politicians such as Bill and Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama—succeeded for decades. These elites, many from East Coast Ivy League schools, spoke the language of values—civility, inclusivity, a condemnation of overt racism and bigotry, a concern for the middle class—while thrusting a knife into the back of the underclass for their corporate masters. This game has ended.

There are tens of millions of Americans, especially lower-class whites, rightfully enraged at what has been done to them, their families and their communities. They have risen up to reject the neoliberal policies and political correctness imposed on them by college-educated elites from both political parties: Lower-class whites are embracing an American fascism.

These Americans want a kind of freedom—a freedom to hate. They want the freedom to use words like “xxxx,” “kike,” “spic,” “chink,” “raghead” and “fag.” They want the freedom to idealize violence and the gun culture. They want the freedom to have enemies, to physically assault Muslims, undocumented workers, African-Americans, homosexuals and anyone who dares criticize their cryptofascism. They want the freedom to celebrate historical movements and figures that the college-educated elites condemn, including the Ku Klux Klan and the Confederacy. They want the freedom to ridicule and dismiss intellectuals, ideas, science and culture. They want the freedom to silence those who have been telling them how to behave. And they want the freedom to revel in hypermasculinity, racism, sexism and white patriarchy. These are the core sentiments of fascism. These sentiments are engendered by the collapse of the liberal state.

The Democrats are playing a very dangerous game by anointing Hillary Clinton as their presidential candidate. She epitomizes the double-dealing of the college-educated elites, those who speak the feel-your-pain language of ordinary men and women, who hold up the bible of political correctness, while selling out the poor and the working class to corporate power.


http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_revenge_of_the_lower_classes_and_the_rise_of_american_fascism_20160302
The progressive movement is married to corporate power. It doesn't have time for the elderly, for whites, or for men. Yes, Hillary Clinton who vowed to put white working class men out of work is dream opponent.
Corporatism is the antithisis of the progressive, you've been tricked into equating them. Hillary is no progressive

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There is only one way left to blunt the yearning for fascism coalescing around Trump. It is to build, as fast as possible, movements or parties that declare war on corporate power, engage in sustained acts of civil disobedience and seek to reintegrate the disenfranchised—the “losers”—back into the economy and political life of the country. This movement will never come out of the Democratic Party. If Clinton prevails in the general election Trump may disappear, but the fascist sentiments will expand. Another Trump, perhaps more vile, will be vomited up from the bowels of the decayed political system. We are fighting for our political life. Tremendous damage has been done by corporate power and the college-educated elites to our capitalist democracy. The longer the elites, who oversaw this disemboweling of the country on behalf of corporations—who believe, as does CBS Chief Executive Officer Leslie Moonves, that however bad Trump would be for America he would at least be good for corporate profit—remain in charge, the worse it is going to get.
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Oh please. Corporate Tycoons such as George Soros, Jack Dorsey, and Mark Zuckerberg are all behind the progressive agenda. The "right- wing" donors are on board the open border fiasco as well.
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The nice thing about this thread is that - between Atta and American Identitarian, we are getting a lovely display of what's destroying American politics.

It's like a piece of performance art.
"The stars can be near or distant, according as we need them." - George Orwell, 1984
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Apr 16 2016, 06:21 PM
The nice thing about this thread is that - between Atta and American Identitarian, we are getting a lovely display of what's destroying American politics.

It's like a piece of performance art.
The marginally employed journalist decides to parrot his would-be employer and corporate financed talking points.
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Attaburnsinhell
Apr 16 2016, 06:00 PM
The Revenge of the Lower Classes and the Rise of American Fascism

By Chris Hedges

College-educated elites, on behalf of corporations, carried out the savage neoliberal assault on the working poor. Now they are being made to pay. Their duplicity—embodied in politicians such as Bill and Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama—succeeded for decades. These elites, many from East Coast Ivy League schools, spoke the language of values—civility, inclusivity, a condemnation of overt racism and bigotry, a concern for the middle class—while thrusting a knife into the back of the underclass for their corporate masters. This game has ended.

There are tens of millions of Americans, especially lower-class whites, rightfully enraged at what has been done to them, their families and their communities. They have risen up to reject the neoliberal policies and political correctness imposed on them by college-educated elites from both political parties: Lower-class whites are embracing an American fascism.

These Americans want a kind of freedom—a freedom to hate. They want the freedom to use words like “xxxx,” “kike,” “spic,” “chink,” “raghead” and “fag.” They want the freedom to idealize violence and the gun culture. They want the freedom to have enemies, to physically assault Muslims, undocumented workers, African-Americans, homosexuals and anyone who dares criticize their cryptofascism. They want the freedom to celebrate historical movements and figures that the college-educated elites condemn, including the Ku Klux Klan and the Confederacy. They want the freedom to ridicule and dismiss intellectuals, ideas, science and culture. They want the freedom to silence those who have been telling them how to behave. And they want the freedom to revel in hypermasculinity, racism, sexism and white patriarchy. These are the core sentiments of fascism. These sentiments are engendered by the collapse of the liberal state.

The Democrats are playing a very dangerous game by anointing Hillary Clinton as their presidential candidate. She epitomizes the double-dealing of the college-educated elites, those who speak the feel-your-pain language of ordinary men and women, who hold up the bible of political correctness, while selling out the poor and the working class to corporate power.


http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_revenge_of_the_lower_classes_and_the_rise_of_american_fascism_20160302
Calling people crypto-fascists is so crypto-gay....The term was invented by Gore Vidal................... :lol:
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Apr 16 2016, 06:24 PM
Two a.m.
Apr 16 2016, 06:21 PM
The nice thing about this thread is that - between Atta and American Identitarian, we are getting a lovely display of what's destroying American politics.

It's like a piece of performance art.
The marginally employed journalist decides to parrot his would-be employer and corporate financed talking points.

I'm afraid no corporations are financing my talking points at the moment but if you think any might be interested, I'll be happy to explore the possibility.
"The stars can be near or distant, according as we need them." - George Orwell, 1984
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Attaburnsinhell

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Apr 16 2016, 06:19 PM
Oh please. Corporate Tycoons such as George Soros, Jack Dorsey, and Mark Zuckerberg are all behind the progressive agenda. The "right- wing" donors are on board the open border fiasco as well.
The progressive agenda is to reunite the citizenry with government, and the government weilding power over corporatism

Your ''nationslism'' is steeped in bigotry, ignorance, misogyny, the desire for a strong authoritarian daddy figure like Trump, a recipe for disaster

You and I both agree what the root of the problem is, we just diverge in opposite directions as to how to deal with it

The true neoliberal corporatist on here is esto. Two a.m. is just a mere toady for the Clintons, looks to them like they are comfort food, that they will bring back the good old days of the 90s, when in fact they have contributed the most to his stagnation
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Attaburnsinhell
Apr 16 2016, 06:43 PM
American Identitarian
Apr 16 2016, 06:19 PM
Oh please. Corporate Tycoons such as George Soros, Jack Dorsey, and Mark Zuckerberg are all behind the progressive agenda. The "right- wing" donors are on board the open border fiasco as well.
The progressive agenda is to reunite the citizenry with government, and the government weilding power over corporatism

Your ''nationslism'' is steeped in bigotry, ignorance, misogyny, the desire for a strong authoritarian daddy figure like Trump, a recipe for disaster

You and I both agree what the root of the problem is, we just diverge in opposite directions as to how to deal with it

The true neoliberal corporatist on here is esto. Two a.m. is just a mere toady for the Clintons, looks to them like they are comfort food, that they will bring back the good old days of the 90s, when in fact they have contributed the most to his stagnation
That's right, the Ron Pauls and Estos of the world are the ones with political power screwing everything up. The progressive agenda you espouse is a plastic front put on by corporate globalist. What they desire is a deracinated, androgynous world where each nation is nothing more more than a market filled with meaningless consumers denuded of any culture or heritage. It will be a fatherless disconnected world where the consumers purchase less meaning than today.
Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary.
#MAGA
#wallsnotwars
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Attaburnsinhell

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Apr 16 2016, 06:53 PM
Attaburnsinhell
Apr 16 2016, 06:43 PM
American Identitarian
Apr 16 2016, 06:19 PM
Oh please. Corporate Tycoons such as George Soros, Jack Dorsey, and Mark Zuckerberg are all behind the progressive agenda. The "right- wing" donors are on board the open border fiasco as well.
The progressive agenda is to reunite the citizenry with government, and the government weilding power over corporatism

Your ''nationslism'' is steeped in bigotry, ignorance, misogyny, the desire for a strong authoritarian daddy figure like Trump, a recipe for disaster

You and I both agree what the root of the problem is, we just diverge in opposite directions as to how to deal with it

The true neoliberal corporatist on here is esto. Two a.m. is just a mere toady for the Clintons, looks to them like they are comfort food, that they will bring back the good old days of the 90s, when in fact they have contributed the most to his stagnation
That's right, the Ron Pauls and Estos of the world are the ones with political power screwing everything up. The progressive agenda you espouse is a plastic front put on by corporate globalist. What they desire is a deracinated, androgynous world where each nation is nothing more more than a market filled with meaningless consumers denuded of any culture or heritage. It will be a fatherless disconnected world where the consumers purchase less meaning than today.
Truthfully, I dont give much of a crap about ''heritage'' or patriachy, those are old world concepts that belong buried in the past. They denote class hierarchy structures that repress humanity.

The reason it all fell apart was because people became disconnected, thanks to ''the age of big government is over'' Reaganism and Clintonism. Big government's job was to protect the people from corporate excess, exploitation and rule. The weaker government got, the stronger corporatism became

The reason I side with Bernie is that he wants to reconnect government in the lives of people. That thought causes lots of neoliberal mouths to foam, but screw them, they're the problem, not government
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Attaburnsinhell
Apr 16 2016, 07:05 PM
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Apr 16 2016, 06:53 PM
Attaburnsinhell
Apr 16 2016, 06:43 PM

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That's right, the Ron Pauls and Estos of the world are the ones with political power screwing everything up. The progressive agenda you espouse is a plastic front put on by corporate globalist. What they desire is a deracinated, androgynous world where each nation is nothing more more than a market filled with meaningless consumers denuded of any culture or heritage. It will be a fatherless disconnected world where the consumers purchase less meaning than today.
Truthfully, I dont give much of a crap about ''heritage'' or patriachy, those are old world concepts that belong buried in the past. They denote class hierarchy structures that repress humanity.

The reason it all fell apart was because people became disconnected, thanks to ''the age of big government is over'' Reaganism and Clintonism. Big government's job was to protect the people from corporate excess, exploitation and rule. The weaker government got, the stronger corporatism became

The reason I side with Bernie is that he wants to reconnect government in the lives of people. That thought causes lots of neoliberal mouths to foam, but screw them, they're the problem, not government
Big Corporations are the government. How cute it is you want to change title but not position.
If you have no past then you will have no future. This country has done an amazing job desecrating it's past so it is no surprise it has a bleak future. Progressives can't control what's in their pants and that's why they will trade the affection of a flesh and blood father for an anonymous government. The Founding Fathers understood self government was a task for a local community, not a soul crushing centralized government of which no one can control, least of all, the voters.
Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary.
#MAGA
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Apr 16 2016, 07:13 PM
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Truthfully, I dont give much of a crap about ''heritage'' or patriachy, those are old world concepts that belong buried in the past. They denote class hierarchy structures that repress humanity.

The reason it all fell apart was because people became disconnected, thanks to ''the age of big government is over'' Reaganism and Clintonism. Big government's job was to protect the people from corporate excess, exploitation and rule. The weaker government got, the stronger corporatism became

The reason I side with Bernie is that he wants to reconnect government in the lives of people. That thought causes lots of neoliberal mouths to foam, but screw them, they're the problem, not government
Big Corporations are the government. How cute it is you want to change title but not position.
If you have no past then you will have no future. This country has done an amazing job desecrating it's past so it is no surprise it has a bleak future. Progressives can't control what's in their pants and that's why they will trade the affection of a flesh and blood father for an anonymous government. The Founding Fathers understood self government was a task for a local community, not a soul crushing centralized government of which no one can control, least of all, the voters.
Big government and corporatism are not the same, in fact they are in conflict with each other. It looks like you're still tied to old rightwing dogma. When government surrendered it role, corporations took control of the government

Heritage is BS. The best chance for the future is to examine the past, then disgard it and progress forward, shedding all that dead weight
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