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re: I feel like a slave
Topic Started: Apr 17 2016, 11:33 PM (1,689 Views)
Mr. Tik
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Esto isn't the first p.com libertarian t equate his current lot to those of pre-civil war African slaves. :lol:

I think the time has come for esto and his ilk to either crap or get off the pot!

Here is an idea, Esto and all of his liberty loving homies should try to create their own nation.

Seriously
Step one..raise a substantial amount of capital..with all the Austrian "dynamos" in your clique, that should be too hard.
You could also get some corprorate sponsors.
Approach some cash strapped third world country and persuade them to sell off some of their territory and start your own nation
Or buy an island..or maybe a decommissioned aircraft carrier or something
Call it something like Randesia or Rothbardy or Libertaria or maybe just Galt.
Then you and your like minded can mold a society to your liking where taxes are voluntary and whatever other things that would make you feel truly free.

You may be a conservative republican..if you are pro life until you get your mistress knocked up
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Mr. Tik
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Well?
You may be a conservative republican..if you are pro life until you get your mistress knocked up
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Harambe4Trump
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Offshore bank accounts are a more reasonable solution.
Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary.
#MAGA
#wallsnotwars
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estonianman
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Adolph Hipster
Apr 18 2016, 12:19 AM
Well?
My friend - the entire premise of that thread wooshed right over your head. Was another "move to Somalia" thread necessary?

and pro-tip, the United States flourished for 200+ years without income taxes.
Edited by estonianman, Apr 18 2016, 12:56 AM.
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Two a.m.
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estonianman
Apr 18 2016, 12:55 AM
Adolph Hipster
Apr 18 2016, 12:19 AM
Well?
My friend - the entire premise of that thread wooshed right over your head. Was another "move to Somalia" thread necessary?

and pro-tip, the United States flourished for 200+ years without income taxes.

No, it didn't.

The income tax began in 1913. Also, the U.S. imposed income taxes during the Civil War.
Edited by Two a.m., Apr 18 2016, 02:43 AM.
"The stars can be near or distant, according as we need them." - George Orwell, 1984
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estonianman
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Two a.m.
Apr 18 2016, 02:43 AM
estonianman
Apr 18 2016, 12:55 AM
Adolph Hipster
Apr 18 2016, 12:19 AM
Well?
My friend - the entire premise of that thread wooshed right over your head. Was another "move to Somalia" thread necessary?

and pro-tip, the United States flourished for 200+ years without income taxes.

No, it didn't.

The income tax began in 1913. Also, the U.S. imposed income taxes during the Civil War.
Granted - the entire western expansion was accomplished during an era without income taxes.

Amazing.
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American Identitarian
Apr 18 2016, 12:47 AM
Offshore bank accounts are a more reasonable solution.
So, in other words you want to keep the benefits of social organization while dodging the cost of maintaining that structure.
Typical.


Have you paid your internet taxes?
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estonianman
Apr 18 2016, 02:47 AM
Two a.m.
Apr 18 2016, 02:43 AM
estonianman
Apr 18 2016, 12:55 AM

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No, it didn't.

The income tax began in 1913. Also, the U.S. imposed income taxes during the Civil War.
Granted - the entire western expansion was accomplished during an era without income taxes.

Amazing.
No, you're right, done without income taxes, it was done by military conquest.
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ringotuna
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None of us here truly knows what it feels like to be a slave.
Ringoism: Never underestimate the advantages of being underestimated.
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Tsalagi
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ringotuna
Apr 18 2016, 05:58 AM
None of us here truly knows what it feels like to be a slave.
Does kinky sex involving handcuffs count?
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Tsalagi
Apr 18 2016, 06:12 AM
ringotuna
Apr 18 2016, 05:58 AM
None of us here truly knows what it feels like to be a slave.
Does kinky sex involving handcuffs count?

LOL. I thought of Freaks after posting that, but still, it's probably not the same.
Edited by ringotuna, Apr 18 2016, 06:16 AM.
Ringoism: Never underestimate the advantages of being underestimated.
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ringotuna
Apr 18 2016, 06:15 AM
Tsalagi
Apr 18 2016, 06:12 AM
ringotuna
Apr 18 2016, 05:58 AM
None of us here truly knows what it feels like to be a slave.
Does kinky sex involving handcuffs count?

LOL. I thought of Freaks after posting that, but still, it's probably not the same.
Ok...scratch the kinky sex comparison.... :ohsnap:
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Tsalagi
Apr 18 2016, 05:55 AM
estonianman
Apr 18 2016, 02:47 AM
Two a.m.
Apr 18 2016, 02:43 AM

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Granted - the entire western expansion was accomplished during an era without income taxes.

Amazing.
No, you're right, done without income taxes, it was done by military conquest.
Although the modern income tax was started in 1913, it was only a rich man's tax until the 1950's, when common citizens were increasingly taxed to increasingly give the rich big income tax reductions...The 1950's is when we began to see fewer middle class in America....Wage slave is a form of slavery, just less apparent and severe............ :biggrin:
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Robert Stout
Apr 18 2016, 06:19 AM
Tsalagi
Apr 18 2016, 05:55 AM
estonianman
Apr 18 2016, 02:47 AM

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No, you're right, done without income taxes, it was done by military conquest.
Although the modern income tax was started in 1913, it was only a rich man's tax until the 1950's, when common citizens were increasingly taxed to increasingly give the rich big income tax reductions...The 1950's is when we began to see fewer middle class in America....Wage slave is a form of slavery, just less apparent and severe............ :biggrin:
I think its hilarious when an employer gives you a wage based on a voluntary contract - it is considered slavery.

When the government confiscates 3-4 months of your annual wage via threats of imprisonment, it is just business as usual.
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Tsalagi
Apr 18 2016, 05:55 AM
estonianman
Apr 18 2016, 02:47 AM
Two a.m.
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Granted - the entire western expansion was accomplished during an era without income taxes.<br /><br />Amazing.
No, you're right, done without income taxes, it was done by military conquest.
That's what government do.
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Mr. Tik
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estonianman
Apr 18 2016, 12:55 AM
Adolph Hipster
Apr 18 2016, 12:19 AM
Well?
My friend - the entire premise of that thread wooshed right over your head. Was another "move to Somalia" thread necessary?

and pro-tip, the United States flourished for 200+ years without income taxes.
All I am doing is suggesting that you guys quit whining and do something.
Trolling "statist" isn't gonna get any results, is it?
You may be a conservative republican..if you are pro life until you get your mistress knocked up
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estonianman
Apr 18 2016, 12:05 PM
Robert Stout
Apr 18 2016, 06:19 AM
Tsalagi
Apr 18 2016, 05:55 AM

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Although the modern income tax was started in 1913, it was only a rich man's tax until the 1950's, when common citizens were increasingly taxed to increasingly give the rich big income tax reductions...The 1950's is when we began to see fewer middle class in America....Wage slave is a form of slavery, just less apparent and severe............ :biggrin:
I think its hilarious when an employer gives you a wage based on a voluntary contract - it is considered slavery.

When the government confiscates 3-4 months of your annual wage via threats of imprisonment, it is just business as usual.
Since when is agreeing to work for someone considered slavery?
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.
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Ronin
Apr 18 2016, 12:14 PM
estonianman
Apr 18 2016, 12:05 PM
Robert Stout
Apr 18 2016, 06:19 AM

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I think its hilarious when an employer gives you a wage based on a voluntary contract - it is considered slavery.

When the government confiscates 3-4 months of your annual wage via threats of imprisonment, it is just business as usual.
Since when is agreeing to work for someone considered slavery?
I agree. But then we have this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wage_slavery
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Mr. Tik
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Adolph Hipster
Apr 18 2016, 12:07 PM
estonianman
Apr 18 2016, 12:55 AM
Adolph Hipster
Apr 18 2016, 12:19 AM
Well?
My friend - the entire premise of that thread wooshed right over your head. Was another "move to Somalia" thread necessary?

and pro-tip, the United States flourished for 200+ years without income taxes.
All I am doing is suggesting that you guys quit whining and do something.
Trolling "statist" isn't gonna get any results, is it?
I get it..pissin' and moaning on a forum is one thing,
Growing a pair and doing something is quite another.
You may be a conservative republican..if you are pro life until you get your mistress knocked up
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Tsalagi
Apr 18 2016, 05:55 AM
estonianman
Apr 18 2016, 02:47 AM
Two a.m.
Apr 18 2016, 02:43 AM

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Granted - the entire western expansion was accomplished during an era without income taxes.

Amazing.
No, you're right, done without income taxes, it was done by military conquest.
Perhaps in esto's view..coercion is only coercion when a western capitalist has to pay taxes.
You may be a conservative republican..if you are pro life until you get your mistress knocked up
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