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| Two a.m. | May 16 2016, 04:11 PM Post #21 |
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Agreed. We are breeding a nation full of professional victims because of left-wing efforts to root out "discrimination." Now people are manufacturing incidents just to generate outrage and make a buck. This is the world all this new gay cake decorating nonsense is creating. |
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| Opinionated | May 16 2016, 04:33 PM Post #22 |
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What an a-hole. They should sue him to the poor house. |
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| Robert Stout | May 16 2016, 04:36 PM Post #23 |
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Liberals are angry because they were shown to be the fools that they are.................
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| Opinionated | May 16 2016, 04:54 PM Post #24 |
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We're angry because these kinds of false accusations do no one any good and just make it easier for conservatives to dismiss valid incidents. |
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| Demagogue | May 16 2016, 05:16 PM Post #25 |
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There is no such thing as a valid incident when the other side considers politely telling someone that you won't bake a cake for their wedding due to religious reasons as what equals a "valid" reason to persecute someone and put them out of business. |
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| Freaks | May 16 2016, 06:06 PM Post #26 |
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Disgusting. Bad for the company but especially for that poor baker who was just trying to do their damn job and then some idiot accuses them of something like that. You know how much stress that person had to be put under? Not only from harassment but the possibility of losing their job? |
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| Two a.m. | May 16 2016, 06:09 PM Post #27 |
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This. ^^^ |
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| Coast2coast | May 17 2016, 12:22 AM Post #28 |
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You do know that this "religious reasons" bit is a total scam. Edited by Coast2coast, May 17 2016, 12:27 AM.
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| Coast2coast | May 17 2016, 12:23 AM Post #29 |
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Throw the book at this Pastor for his attempted scam. For the harm he did to innocent people trying to earn a living and to everyone he harmed that faces real bigotry and actual persecution for who they are attracted to and love. Edited by Coast2coast, May 17 2016, 12:31 AM.
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| Demagogue | May 17 2016, 09:15 AM Post #30 |
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Not to people who are actually religious and truly believe. |
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| Opinionated | May 17 2016, 09:46 AM Post #31 |
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Rather, you mean the cake baker politely telling the customer that the baker's religion demands that they treat the customer as less than other customers because 'sin'. When your religion demands you treat other people like crap, your religion is wrong. |
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| Demagogue | May 17 2016, 09:51 AM Post #32 |
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Well, the religion of AGW causes leftists to treat others like crap all the time but it does not seem to bother any of you. Incidentally, politely telling someone that you can't serve them and suggesting several other places that would be happy to help them is not exactly treating someone like crap. |
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| Opinionated | May 17 2016, 09:56 AM Post #33 |
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Refusing service to someone based on who they are as a person, when you would cheerfully provide that service to others, is not polite, regardless of how you word the refusal. |
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| Demagogue | May 17 2016, 10:16 AM Post #34 |
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We will have to agree to disagree. I can even understand someone choosing not to do business with folks who feel that way if they feel strongly about the issue as you do. What I don't understand is persecuting someone for their religious beliefs and attempting to force them out of business with outrageous fines. Seems like an over the top reaction to someone telling you that for religious reasons they can't perform a service at your wedding. |
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| Opinionated | May 17 2016, 10:47 AM Post #35 |
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Having religious beliefs is not a "get out of responsibility free" card that some seem to think it is. If as business owner your religious beliefs restrict you in certain ways with certain types of customers, you have choices. You can stop doing business, that's a choice you are free to make. You can stop providing the service in question, also a choice you're free to make. Or you can have someone else in your employ provide the service just as it would be provided to anyone else. What you don't get to do is to use your religion as an excuse to refuse service to a "protected class". You don't get to use your religion to refuse service to blacks, Mexicans, Muslims, women, senior citizens, those with handicaps, or in some states, homosexuals. It doesn't matter if you word your refusal politely and really, really believe it's what God wants you to do. |
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| jake58 | May 17 2016, 12:21 PM Post #36 |
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In other words, don't provide the service but simply don't tell the truth about the reason why. This is what the govt forces us now to do. It's asinine. |
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| Two a.m. | May 17 2016, 12:30 PM Post #37 |
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And it is getting dumber every day. Now you've got the President of the United States and the state legislature of North Carolina fighting over who can tell who where to take a leak. I always thought I'd be glad to see the day when gays could marry. It would be a vast expansion of personal freedom, I thought. Instead, it has heralded an exciting new era of repression. It's just a different group getting repressed. |
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| jake58 | May 17 2016, 12:41 PM Post #38 |
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the pendulum swings, the pendulum swings back |
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| Opinionated | May 17 2016, 01:39 PM Post #39 |
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How about, not providing the service period? If you can't bake wedding cakes for every paying customer who comes through the door without your religion becoming an issue, then don't bake wedding cakes. It's just that freaking simple. |
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| jake58 | May 17 2016, 01:53 PM Post #40 |
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The reason immigrants first came here was freedom of religion. I know that's a bit of a problem for you with your hard on for Xianity but there you go. Freedom to do or not do was enshrined early on. Your protected class bs has been a recent invention and at some point will go the way of the dodo... probably be a sad day for you. If the govt is going to mandate this sort of behavior, there will be work arounds as there always are. Suck it buttercup, the baker's in the hospital and couldn't make your cake celebrating your new gender identity. |
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